wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:53 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...

Tim wrote:
I heard that the Somalians captured a giant oil tanker holding about
100 Million USD worth of crude.
any updates?
Yeah...I posted one. Apparently we don't have a Navy sufficient enough to
handle the pirates. :)
I agree. Let's quadruple the Navy's annual budget, buy a hundred thousand
inflatables equipped with a 50 cal. machine gun and a radar mast with blue
flashing lights. Enlist and commission an additional couple of hundred
thousand personnel and go into the law enforcement business, world wide,
stationing the new craft in every major port and patrol every nautical mile
of the world's shipping lanes..

Eisboch

Or we could try Harry's suggestion.... cut and paste em' to death...


At least I know how to do that. Your computer skills are...well, no more
developed than any your other skills, though I do understand you know
how to be bounced down a flight of stairs.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:07:11 -0500, Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:53 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...

Tim wrote:
I heard that the Somalians captured a giant oil tanker holding about
100 Million USD worth of crude.
any updates?
Yeah...I posted one. Apparently we don't have a Navy sufficient enough to
handle the pirates. :)
I agree. Let's quadruple the Navy's annual budget, buy a hundred thousand
inflatables equipped with a 50 cal. machine gun and a radar mast with blue
flashing lights. Enlist and commission an additional couple of hundred
thousand personnel and go into the law enforcement business, world wide,
stationing the new craft in every major port and patrol every nautical mile
of the world's shipping lanes..

Eisboch

Or we could try Harry's suggestion.... cut and paste em' to death...


At least I know how to do that. Your computer skills are...well, no more
developed than any your other skills, though I do understand you know
how to be bounced down a flight of stairs.

Harry, we're talking about ways to do in the pirates here. Stop trying to
change the subject.

Your moronic statement of this morning is creating a hilarious ruckus. You
should be proud!
--
John H.

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:07:11 -0500, Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:53 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...

Tim wrote:
I heard that the Somalians captured a giant oil tanker holding about
100 Million USD worth of crude.
any updates?
Yeah...I posted one. Apparently we don't have a Navy sufficient enough to
handle the pirates. :)
I agree. Let's quadruple the Navy's annual budget, buy a hundred thousand
inflatables equipped with a 50 cal. machine gun and a radar mast with blue
flashing lights. Enlist and commission an additional couple of hundred
thousand personnel and go into the law enforcement business, world wide,
stationing the new craft in every major port and patrol every nautical mile
of the world's shipping lanes..

Eisboch
Or we could try Harry's suggestion.... cut and paste em' to death...

At least I know how to do that. Your computer skills are...well, no more
developed than any your other skills, though I do understand you know
how to be bounced down a flight of stairs.

Harry, we're talking about ways to do in the pirates here. Stop trying to
change the subject.

Your moronic statement of this morning is creating a hilarious ruckus. You
should be proud!


Right, Herring. Unlike you and the rest of the right-wing retardos, I
don't think the ka-billions of dollars we spend each year on the
military buy us what we need. We certainly don't have the wherewithal to
fight a major war against a big-league country, we've been fighting in a
fifth-rate non-country (Iraq) for more than five years, we're doing
diddley in Afghanistan, and we can't even interdict Somali pirates.
Oh, and thanks to the military and officers like you, we got our asses
kicked in Vietnam.


Good job, Brownies.

"Boater" wrote in message
...


We certainly don't have the wherewithal to fight a major war against a
big-league country, we've been fighting in a fifth-rate non-country (Iraq)
for more than five years, we're doing diddley in Afghanistan, and we can't
even interdict Somali pirates.
Oh, and thanks to the military and officers like you, we got our asses
kicked in Vietnam.


Good job, Brownies.


What a strange and bizarre summary of military capability by someone who
knows so little about it.
Even I, if inclined, could blow holes is every statement you made, but I
won't. It's too much fun watching you make an ass of yourself.

I'll give you a couple of hints to get you started again.

We aren't "fighting" a military war in Iraq. That part was done in very
short order and in an overwhelming manner. We are using assets designed to
fight and win wars as training agencies and police forces.

As for "big league" countries, there isn't another one on earth that can
compare with the US military capabilities. Sorry to disappoint you.

Carry on, expert..

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


We certainly don't have the wherewithal to fight a major war against a
big-league country, we've been fighting in a fifth-rate non-country (Iraq)
for more than five years, we're doing diddley in Afghanistan, and we can't
even interdict Somali pirates.
Oh, and thanks to the military and officers like you, we got our asses
kicked in Vietnam.


Good job, Brownies.


What a strange and bizarre summary of military capability by someone who
knows so little about it.
Even I, if inclined, could blow holes is every statement you made, but I
won't. It's too much fun watching you make an ass of yourself.

I'll give you a couple of hints to get you started again.

We aren't "fighting" a military war in Iraq. That part was done in very
short order and in an overwhelming manner. We are using assets designed to
fight and win wars as training agencies and police forces.

As for "big league" countries, there isn't another one on earth that can
compare with the US military capabilities. Sorry to disappoint you.

Carry on, expert..

Eisboch




Gee, I was wondering why we are still in Iraq with what, 150,000 troops.
We're training. Right.

As for capabilities, do they really matter when most of our adversaries
and potential adversaries have or have access to nuclear and biological
weapons? Capabilities don't mean what they used to mean, when our
adversaries believed in M-A-D.

"Boater" wrote in message
...



Gee, I was wondering why we are still in Iraq with what, 150,000 troops.
We're training. Right.



Consider this:

New York City is composed of approx. 469 square miles.
The New York City police force consists of 37,838 officers.

That's about 80 officers per square mile.

Iraq is composed of approx. 167,400 square miles.
At a troop level of 150,000 personel, that's less than one person per mile
(not counting Iraq forces).

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


Gee, I was wondering why we are still in Iraq with what, 150,000 troops.
We're training. Right.



Consider this:

New York City is composed of approx. 469 square miles.
The New York City police force consists of 37,838 officers.

That's about 80 officers per square mile.

Iraq is composed of approx. 167,400 square miles.
At a troop level of 150,000 personel, that's less than one person per mile
(not counting Iraq forces).

Eisboch




We don't have much "presence" in most of Iraq, and...are you saying our
troops are now the Iraqi police force? If so, why can't the Iraqis be
their own police force?

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:56:17 -0500, Boater wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:07:11 -0500, Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:53 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...

Tim wrote:
I heard that the Somalians captured a giant oil tanker holding about
100 Million USD worth of crude.
any updates?
Yeah...I posted one. Apparently we don't have a Navy sufficient enough to
handle the pirates. :)
I agree. Let's quadruple the Navy's annual budget, buy a hundred thousand
inflatables equipped with a 50 cal. machine gun and a radar mast with blue
flashing lights. Enlist and commission an additional couple of hundred
thousand personnel and go into the law enforcement business, world wide,
stationing the new craft in every major port and patrol every nautical mile
of the world's shipping lanes..

Eisboch
Or we could try Harry's suggestion.... cut and paste em' to death...

At least I know how to do that. Your computer skills are...well, no more
developed than any your other skills, though I do understand you know
how to be bounced down a flight of stairs.

Harry, we're talking about ways to do in the pirates here. Stop trying to
change the subject.

Your moronic statement of this morning is creating a hilarious ruckus. You
should be proud!


Right, Herring. Unlike you and the rest of the right-wing retardos, I
don't think the ka-billions of dollars we spend each year on the
military buy us what we need. We certainly don't have the wherewithal to
fight a major war against a big-league country, we've been fighting in a
fifth-rate non-country (Iraq) for more than five years, we're doing
diddley in Afghanistan, and we can't even interdict Somali pirates.
Oh, and thanks to the military and officers like you, we got our asses
kicked in Vietnam.


Good job, Brownies.

Harry, do you put on a clown mask before you enter here to become the court
jester?

WAFJ! (Hint: 'J' stands for 'Joke')
--
John H.

wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:49:33 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Harry, we're talking about ways to do in the pirates here

I think the answer as air power. Don't the Saudis have a few AWACs
planes. Loiter over the water off Somalia and profile any small boats
shadowing their ships. Call in some "air" with 500 lb IR guided bombs
to blow them out of the water from altitude. If these pirates discover
their boats are simply disappearing without a trace they might stop
going out.
For that matter the US could do that but we should do it covertly.
Officially we don't know why pirate boats are suddenly blowing up at
sea. Must be some kind of accident handling munitions or something.
Maybe they just have a batch of defective bilge blowers.

I am still not sure how these guys are sneaking up on a tanker. Don't
they have RADAR?


The Israelis have some 50 knot patrol boats, deep vees, that are
suitably armed, and armed forces who know how to fight. Perhaps a
contract could be let...


http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo.../Shaldag2.html

On Nov 19, 12:28*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:49:33 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Harry, we're talking about ways to do in the pirates here

I think the answer as air power. Don't the Saudis have a few AWACs
planes. Loiter over the water off Somalia and profile any small boats
shadowing their ships. Call in some "air" with 500 lb IR guided bombs
to blow them out of the water from altitude. If these pirates discover
their boats are simply disappearing without a trace they might stop
going out.
For that matter the US could do that but we should do it covertly.
Officially we don't know why pirate boats are suddenly blowing up at
sea. Must be some kind of accident handling munitions or something.
Maybe they just have a batch of defective bilge blowers.

I am still not sure how these guys are sneaking up on a tanker. Don't
they have RADAR?

The Israelis have some 50 knot patrol boats, deep vees, that are
suitably armed, and armed forces who know how to fight. Perhaps a
contract could be let...

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...Shaldag2.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Damn nice googling!