wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:26:54 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:41:31 GMT, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


Neat thing happens - you shoot the ice at a slight angle and the
bullet enters the ice and travels a bit until the steam builds up
enough - the bullet will come screaming back out of the hole and at
pretty decent velocity. :)
I simply do not believe it. Ice is brittle. You might make a shallow
but wide trough. otherwise you get a shallow crater.


Casady

I wondered about that too. I used to break up gallon jugs of ice with
a .22 for a cooler and I never saw any evidence of any melting around
the impact site. It was dry snow looking stuff with a little powder
burning. I just picked out the big chunks and threw all the other
stuff away.

I believe that it is physics. As the energy is dissipated by the bullet,
energy converts Ice to water. You see a similar phenomenon when a
meteorite hits the earth, the rocks melt, and re solidify. part of the
signature of an impact crater

However I can not believe there would be enough energy to convert
sufficient amount of ice to steam that would blow the bullet back at you.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:00:03 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK. here is how you could get a 180 degree bounce from water. You
need a very large breaking wave and I do mean large as the angle for
reflection is less than 20 degrees meaning you need 9 reflections from
the braking part to get your 180 degrees

No way can you get nine reflections.

Casady

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:18:39 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Although a bullet will bounce at a shallow angle from water or sand, I
doubt it is possible for a 180 degree bounce to happen. OK, it is
"possible" but it is probably more likely you will get hit by a
meteorite twice.

Think corner reflector, it takes a double bounce from a 90 degree
angle.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:57:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:18:39 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Although a bullet will bounce at a shallow angle from water or sand, I
doubt it is possible for a 180 degree bounce to happen. OK, it is
"possible" but it is probably more likely you will get hit by a
meteorite twice.

Think corner reflector, it takes a double bounce from a 90 degree
angle.

Geez, it's like nobody here ever shot some pool.
If you can make it bounce, you can do anything.

--Vic

On Nov 16, 6:26 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:57:30 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:18:39 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Although a bullet will bounce at a shallow angle from water or sand, I
doubt it is possible for a 180 degree bounce to happen. OK, it is
"possible" but it is probably more likely you will get hit by a
meteorite twice.

Think corner reflector, it takes a double bounce from a 90 degree
angle.

Geez, it's like nobody here ever shot some pool.
If you can make it bounce, you can do anything.

--Vic

Shooting at ice, weird concept, I mean the part about ice being
outisde of ones freezer.
Yur not gonna get a 180 reflection of a bullet from liquid water, not
gonna happen.
Yes, being an optics guy, I know bout corner reflectors.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:19:42 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Shooting at ice, weird concept, I mean the part about ice being
outisde of ones freezer.

Yes, you could really make a mess of your drink that way.

On Nov 16, 9:22 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:19:42 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
Shooting at ice, weird concept, I mean the part about ice being
outisde of ones freezer.

Yes, you could really make a mess of your drink that way.

Us Florida natives who rarely see ice outside of iced tea all had this
mental image of someone shooting at someones tea glass.
Srsly, I wonder how may generations it will take for people shooting
up in the air to give us some perspective on Darwinism.
So, nobody can think of any real reasons not to target shoot at sea?
It seems to me that this would be safer than on land as I can be
certain there is nobody within bullet range whereas on land you never
know if that is true. (OK, perhaps there are Ninja scuba divers out
there).

50 cal + steel plate = headache


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:35:50 GMT, "CRM" wrote:

50 cal + steel plate = headache

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

I was looking for that when this thread came up.

Thanks.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:25:49 -0500, wrote:

The
people in the IBM Systems Center in Gaithersburg went through dozens
every week and they saved them for me.

I was there a couple of times back in the late 80s for system
performance evaluations.