Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments. The
new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive deficits,
to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina aftermath, to the
denial of science, to the financial destruction, to the lack of oversight,
to massive unemployment, to destruction of our reputation around the
world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and it
recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the word
of the day!

Eisboch




Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:48:19 -0700, "Canuck57"
wrote:

. Not being an
active investor in 1980 I am guessing, but did not interest rates go up
above inflation and up to the high teens to stem debt?

Yes - the Volker years.

Moron.

Volker - not you. :)

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments.
The new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive
deficits, to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina
aftermath, to the denial of science, to the financial destruction, to
the lack of oversight, to massive unemployment, to destruction of our
reputation around the world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and
it recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the
word of the day!

Eisboch


Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.


Just trying to bust your chops. And yes, those batteries look very
interesting. I'll tell you though, I've become very leery of some of the
new, high density batteries, particularly lithium/ion battery power packs
supplied in more and more devices. If not manufactured to exacting
standards, they can be very dangerous. I've advised my family not to leave
them perpetually on a charger and only charge them when someone is around to
notice if something goes wrong.

Well designed chargers for lithium/ion batteries have a timer built in and
automatically shut the charger off after a period of time.

The dangerous ones are some being manufactured in your favorite country ....
China.

Eisboch

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...


Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.



Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini
nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)


You are late to the meeting. We've been discussing this all day.
My interest in this has been re-piqued. I need to revisit it.

Simply put, it has to do with efficient use of electrons and increasing the
probability of ionization.
This is done routinely for other applications, such as planar magnetron
sputtering whereby
electrons from a power supply do more work because they become captured in a
magnetic field. Under certain conditions, a sputtering target can become
almost self sustaining due to the density of ionized gas and sputtered
material molecules. That has been demonstrated many times.

The duber I experimented with was doing the same thing, I think, except I
didn't need magnets to confine the electrons to a specific area.

Eisboch

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:19:58 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:00:46 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My own feeling is that let 'em go. Do the pre-pack, restructure to a
smaller, leaner, less expensive operation, drop a number of lines that
make no sense (like Hummer) and start competing again as a more
efficient and cost effective company.

GM deserves to go down, but ... We are now spending $1 trillion to put
liquidity *and* confidence back in our markets. What does letting GM go
down do to that confidence? I don't see a choice. I don't like it, but
I think we have to do something to help GM.

There is a difference between financial issues and manufacturing
issues.

You have to have confidence in the base medium of exchange - it's the
idea that the $1 bill is worth $1, not that is actually is worth $1.
It could be clams, round stones with holes in them or slices of
pepperoni - the concept is that the medium of exchange has a certain
value and that is what makes an economy.

If don't have confidence in the medium, the system fails.

Manufacturing is a completely different deal. As long as $1 stays a
$1, companies can start, compete, succeed, fail - the medium of
exchange stays the same.

JimH wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:30 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:33:13 -0500, Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
....
Too much top-heavy wages and bonuses. What do you care anyway...go
back to counting your money.
-------------------------------
Gee. I wonder who *that* could be.
Eisboch
I was thinking the same thing. JH maybe?
Not *this* JH!
--
John H.

Nor me. My last post to this house of lunacy was a couple of weeks
ago.

Carry on with the name calling, insults and other juvenile behavior
here.

My apologies to both the JHs. Sure did sound like one of em though.

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
This melt down is all a result of your strange heating experiments.
The new state of matter has jumped in to the finance field.

Don't blame me. Harry says it's Bush's fault.

Eisboch

This country has come pretty close to being destroyed under the careful
stewardship of Bush, from 9-11, to a trumped up war, to massive
deficits, to the destruction of the middle class, to the Katrina
aftermath, to the denial of science, to the financial destruction, to
the lack of oversight, to massive unemployment, to destruction of our
reputation around the world...you name it, and Bush has foched it up.


Holy crap! You're like one of those talking dolls. Push a button and
it recites some preprogrammed statement, over and over and over and over.
Until the batteries go dead. AHHH.... so that's why you announced the
word of the day!

Eisboch


Oh? Which of those short descriptors aren't true?


The word of the day was indeed for some interesting new batteries that
seem to perform as advertised.

The whole premise was BS. Democrat congress approved the funding for it.
Lets start with that shall we.

Should have approved nukes, but that is another issue.

wrote:

Let GM die

Go **** yourself Tom. Rumour mongering asshole.

Temper, temper.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:15:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...

Let GM die - fertilizer for smaller, leaner and better companies to
suceed.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


Did I ever tell you about my hollow cathode plasma energy generator?

(seriously)

I stumbled across this many years ago purely by serendipity, doing some
experiments in a vacuum chamber.
It converted electrical energy into heat at about 100 times (or more) the
efficiency of conventional electric or fossil fueled heat generators.

I always wanted to go back and follow up on it. For example, I think it
could be used to heat a house very economically. Sorta like a mini nuclear
power generator without the nuclear reaction.

I'm in - when do we start? :)

Whose garage are you going to conduct the experiments in first?