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Mic May 26th 05 04:18 PM

FRS Walkie Talkies VS GMRS for crusing
 

Links:

http://www.provide.net/~prsg/wi-gmrs.htm

The General Mobile Radio Service
A More Detailed Description

"Some "bubble pack" radios (so called because they are packaged in a
"blister pack") sold at consumer electronics stores are available for
even less, often combined with a capability to communicate on FRS
channels as well. (However, most such "bubble pack" radios are not
capable of transmitting on the GMRS 467 MHz frequencies, and are thus
not capable of communicating through conventional GMRS repeaters.)"

http://www.leeselect.com/uniden/frs_combos_flash.htm

Today's FRS radios may become more popular than CB's ever were.
These radios are the early revolution of the personal communicator.

FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range?



Falky foo May 26th 05 11:36 PM

FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range?


naw, FRS is limited in xmitting power moreso than GMRS. Ostensibly you need
a license for GMRS but nobody I know has bothered with one since they're
$75.



Peter Bennett May 27th 05 06:11 PM

On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:18:08 GMT, (Mic) wrote:


FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range?


No - FRS and GMRS are same tech, but GMRS may be newer rules, and is
permitted higher power. FRS and GMRS share some channels, so FRS and
GMRS radios can communicate with each other on those channels (but
GMRS is limited to FRS power levels)


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Rick May 27th 05 11:14 PM

Falky foo wrote:
FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range?



naw, FRS is limited in xmitting power moreso than GMRS. Ostensibly you need
a license for GMRS but nobody I know has bothered with one since they're
$75.


$75.00 for 10 years

Falky foo May 27th 05 11:42 PM

$75.00 for 10 years

really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just
cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your
callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc.,
because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab.



Bruce in Alaska May 27th 05 11:44 PM

In article ,
Peter Bennett wrote:

On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:18:08 GMT, (Mic) wrote:


FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range?


No - FRS and GMRS are same tech, but GMRS may be newer rules, and is
permitted higher power. FRS and GMRS share some channels, so FRS and
GMRS radios can communicate with each other on those channels (but
GMRS is limited to FRS power levels)


Well actually not quite right, but very close for a Canadian, Peter.

GMRS has been around for ages, like 40 years or so, and was the first
US based UHF Radio Service for General Public. It originally was called
Class A Citzens Band Radio Service. The Frequency List was expanded
when it was reruled to GMRS, and has been fairly standard since.
FRS was designed, for low power, simplex, short range, family
communications, and the Limited Frequency List came from a subset of the
GMRS Frequency List. Where GMRS allows Repeaters and duplex systems,
FRS does not. Where GMRS is a Licensed System, FRS is done via National
Blanket License. GMRS and FRS Stations MAY communicate with each other
on dual use frequencies, FRS is limited to their Subset Frequency List,
only, and have no Interference Protection from other Radio Services, like
GMRS Licensees may be able to command. Power for FRS is limited to what
is specified in the National Blanket License, where GMRS is limited by
the Station License issued for each System.


Bruce in alaska
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Rick May 28th 05 03:00 AM

Falky foo wrote:
$75.00 for 10 years



really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just
cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your
callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc.,
because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab.


That is my feelings too.

Larry W4CSC May 28th 05 04:35 AM

Rick wrote in
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$75.00 for 10 years


High license prices for commercial radio licenses is supposed to drive you
to pay Motorola to monthly rent a trunked radio from them, solving your
problem of high license and radio prices.

THAT is the real moneygrab....trunked radio from Motorola.

Another corporation with the FCC in its pocket.....


Bruce in Alaska May 28th 05 11:39 PM

In article ,
Rick wrote:

Falky foo wrote:
$75.00 for 10 years



really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just
cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your
callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc.,
because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab.


That is my feelings too.


Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track
you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If
you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big
Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station.
For FRS, you are covered under the National Blanket License, but you
have no interference protection, and also no standing for complaining
about other operations on your frequency.


Bruce in alaska
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add a 2 before @

Falky foo May 29th 05 04:40 AM

Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track
you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If
you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big
Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station.


I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and
regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio
service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service
license essentially free?





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