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FRS Walkie Talkies VS GMRS for crusing
Links: http://www.provide.net/~prsg/wi-gmrs.htm The General Mobile Radio Service A More Detailed Description "Some "bubble pack" radios (so called because they are packaged in a "blister pack") sold at consumer electronics stores are available for even less, often combined with a capability to communicate on FRS channels as well. (However, most such "bubble pack" radios are not capable of transmitting on the GMRS 467 MHz frequencies, and are thus not capable of communicating through conventional GMRS repeaters.)" http://www.leeselect.com/uniden/frs_combos_flash.htm Today's FRS radios may become more popular than CB's ever were. These radios are the early revolution of the personal communicator. FRS are older tech? GMRS are new tech and greater range? |
FRS are older tech?
GMRS are new tech and greater range? naw, FRS is limited in xmitting power moreso than GMRS. Ostensibly you need a license for GMRS but nobody I know has bothered with one since they're $75. |
Falky foo wrote:
FRS are older tech? GMRS are new tech and greater range? naw, FRS is limited in xmitting power moreso than GMRS. Ostensibly you need a license for GMRS but nobody I know has bothered with one since they're $75. $75.00 for 10 years |
$75.00 for 10 years
really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc., because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab. |
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Peter Bennett wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:18:08 GMT, (Mic) wrote: FRS are older tech? GMRS are new tech and greater range? No - FRS and GMRS are same tech, but GMRS may be newer rules, and is permitted higher power. FRS and GMRS share some channels, so FRS and GMRS radios can communicate with each other on those channels (but GMRS is limited to FRS power levels) Well actually not quite right, but very close for a Canadian, Peter. GMRS has been around for ages, like 40 years or so, and was the first US based UHF Radio Service for General Public. It originally was called Class A Citzens Band Radio Service. The Frequency List was expanded when it was reruled to GMRS, and has been fairly standard since. FRS was designed, for low power, simplex, short range, family communications, and the Limited Frequency List came from a subset of the GMRS Frequency List. Where GMRS allows Repeaters and duplex systems, FRS does not. Where GMRS is a Licensed System, FRS is done via National Blanket License. GMRS and FRS Stations MAY communicate with each other on dual use frequencies, FRS is limited to their Subset Frequency List, only, and have no Interference Protection from other Radio Services, like GMRS Licensees may be able to command. Power for FRS is limited to what is specified in the National Blanket License, where GMRS is limited by the Station License issued for each System. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
Falky foo wrote:
$75.00 for 10 years really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc., because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab. That is my feelings too. |
Rick wrote in
: $75.00 for 10 years High license prices for commercial radio licenses is supposed to drive you to pay Motorola to monthly rent a trunked radio from them, solving your problem of high license and radio prices. THAT is the real moneygrab....trunked radio from Motorola. Another corporation with the FCC in its pocket..... |
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Rick wrote: Falky foo wrote: $75.00 for 10 years really, I thought it was 4 years.. but still, no test, no nothin, just cash.. a way for the FCC to raise money. You don't even have to use your callsign on the air. I was willing to get a license for 2 meter, HF, etc., because I thought it was important, but this is just a money grab. That is my feelings too. Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station. For FRS, you are covered under the National Blanket License, but you have no interference protection, and also no standing for complaining about other operations on your frequency. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track
you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station. I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service license essentially free? |
On Sun, 29 May 2005 03:40:02 GMT, Falky foo wrote:
Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station. I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service license essentially free? I'm not certain of the conditions governing the GMRS service, but perhaps one of the reasons that the amateur radio license is essentially free is that there is an express prohibition against conducting business other than incidental. (you can order a pizza, but you can't contact a client). -- Larry W1HJF email is rapp at lmr dot com 05/29/05 11:06:41 AM |
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"Falky foo" wrote: I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service license essentially free? The fee is a Paperwork Processing Fee, as Mandated by Congress, when they rewrote the Communications Act in the 80's. All non-Media Licensing is Paperwork Processing Fees, and that's also why they extended the License Terms, from 5 to 10 years. The FCC figures that it cost $75US, to Process the License for GMRS, and keep track of it for 10 years. Figuring all the people in Gettysburg, PA that do the Licensing, I am not suprised. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
Larry wrote in :
I'm not certain of the conditions governing the GMRS service, but perhaps one of the reasons that the amateur radio license is essentially free is that there is an express prohibition against conducting business other than incidental. (you can order a pizza, but you can't contact a client). -- Larry W1HJF email is rapp at lmr dot com 05/29/05 11:06:41 AM When Ma Bell had a stranglehold on the FCC, hams were, as you know, prevented from even calling the wife for a food order...because you were supposed to stop at a PAY phone to give Ma Bell a little piece of you in this process. But, alas, Ma Bell got a little too greedy and deregulation happened, in spite of their bribes. That was the reason for the business prohibition. Why would anyone feed Ma Bell and her IMTS $4/minute if they could call the office on 2 meters through the repeater. Cellphones negated the need....even for a 2m rig in my car...now. 73 DE W4CSC NNNN |
well, like I said, money grab. Too rich for my blood. So until they drop a
GMRS license to something reasonable like $20 I'm going to broadcast over my 2 watt Uniden handhelds with mygirlfriend without a license and not lose any sleep over it. Since she's not a relative it would cost us $150 to both be licensed anyway, and that's just ridiculous. "Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message ... In article , "Falky foo" wrote: I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service license essentially free? The fee is a Paperwork Processing Fee, as Mandated by Congress, when they rewrote the Communications Act in the 80's. All non-Media Licensing is Paperwork Processing Fees, and that's also why they extended the License Terms, from 5 to 10 years. The FCC figures that it cost $75US, to Process the License for GMRS, and keep track of it for 10 years. Figuring all the people in Gettysburg, PA that do the Licensing, I am not suprised. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
"Falky foo" wrote in
: well, like I said, money grab. Too rich for my blood. So until they drop a GMRS license to something reasonable like $20 I'm going to broadcast over my 2 watt Uniden handhelds with mygirlfriend without a license and not lose any sleep over it. Since she's not a relative it would cost us $150 to both be licensed anyway, and that's just ridiculous. This isn't near as bad as an old friend of mine who ran his pest control business in Greenville, SC, on a marine VHF channel for many years. The radios were cheap and there wasn't much activity on the unused channels in the MOUNTAINS....(c; |
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