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Larry May 29th 05 04:08 PM

On Sun, 29 May 2005 03:40:02 GMT, Falky foo wrote:

Nope, it is a way to regulate the Radio Service. If they have to track
you down, then they have your License Suspension to hang over you. If
you don't have a license when they track you down, then you PAY, Big
Time, for operating an Unlicensed Station.


I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and
regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio
service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service
license essentially free?


I'm not certain of the conditions governing the GMRS service, but perhaps
one of the reasons that the amateur radio license is essentially free is
that there is an express prohibition against conducting business other than
incidental. (you can order a pizza, but you can't contact a client).
--

Larry W1HJF
email is rapp at lmr dot com
05/29/05 11:06:41 AM

Bruce in Alaska May 29th 05 09:52 PM

In article ,
"Falky foo" wrote:

I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee and
regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a radio
service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur service
license essentially free?


The fee is a Paperwork Processing Fee, as Mandated by Congress, when
they rewrote the Communications Act in the 80's. All non-Media Licensing
is Paperwork Processing Fees, and that's also why they extended the
License Terms, from 5 to 10 years. The FCC figures that it cost $75US,
to Process the License for GMRS, and keep track of it for 10 years.
Figuring all the people in Gettysburg, PA that do the Licensing, I am
not suprised.


Bruce in alaska
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Larry W4CSC May 29th 05 10:31 PM

Larry wrote in :

I'm not certain of the conditions governing the GMRS service, but
perhaps one of the reasons that the amateur radio license is
essentially free is that there is an express prohibition against
conducting business other than incidental. (you can order a pizza,
but you can't contact a client). --

Larry W1HJF
email is rapp at lmr dot com
05/29/05 11:06:41 AM


When Ma Bell had a stranglehold on the FCC, hams were, as you know,
prevented from even calling the wife for a food order...because you were
supposed to stop at a PAY phone to give Ma Bell a little piece of you in
this process. But, alas, Ma Bell got a little too greedy and deregulation
happened, in spite of their bribes.

That was the reason for the business prohibition. Why would anyone feed Ma
Bell and her IMTS $4/minute if they could call the office on 2 meters
through the repeater.

Cellphones negated the need....even for a 2m rig in my car...now.

73 DE W4CSC

NNNN


Falky foo May 30th 05 02:17 AM

well, like I said, money grab. Too rich for my blood. So until they drop a
GMRS license to something reasonable like $20 I'm going to broadcast over my
2 watt Uniden handhelds with mygirlfriend without a license and not lose any
sleep over it. Since she's not a relative it would cost us $150 to both be
licensed anyway, and that's just ridiculous.



"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Falky foo" wrote:

I don't understand how you're making the connection between a high fee

and
regulation of the service. How does a high fee serve to regulate a

radio
service? And if it's so effective in doing so, why is the Amateur

service
license essentially free?


The fee is a Paperwork Processing Fee, as Mandated by Congress, when
they rewrote the Communications Act in the 80's. All non-Media Licensing
is Paperwork Processing Fees, and that's also why they extended the
License Terms, from 5 to 10 years. The FCC figures that it cost $75US,
to Process the License for GMRS, and keep track of it for 10 years.
Figuring all the people in Gettysburg, PA that do the Licensing, I am
not suprised.


Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @




Larry W4CSC May 30th 05 03:28 AM

"Falky foo" wrote in
:

well, like I said, money grab. Too rich for my blood. So until they
drop a GMRS license to something reasonable like $20 I'm going to
broadcast over my 2 watt Uniden handhelds with mygirlfriend without a
license and not lose any sleep over it. Since she's not a relative it
would cost us $150 to both be licensed anyway, and that's just
ridiculous.



This isn't near as bad as an old friend of mine who ran his pest control
business in Greenville, SC, on a marine VHF channel for many years. The
radios were cheap and there wasn't much activity on the unused channels in
the MOUNTAINS....(c;



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