Bruce in Alaska wrote:
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote:

Doug Dotson wrote:
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On 2005-05-04 said:
There is a news group of sometime questionable protocols
that might be willing to help you determine whether CB radio
would work for you. It is rec.radio.cb. Give it a try.
Good luck

Nah I wouldn't suggest using cb for anything, maybe cb'ers for
target practice. HEre's why. THe original poster says:
Del Cecchi wrote:
I am looking for a way to communicate from boat to my spouse
on shore over distances of less than 10 miles. This is due
to some medical issues I have.
I have looked at VHF radios, but there seem to be few that
plug into 110 for cabin use. I could just go with a couple
of hand helds if that would have the range. Does anyone have
experience with the range of VHF Handhelds?
Any suggestions for a unit for the Cabin? Or do I just get a
boat unit, a battery and a charger?
NO cell phone coverage in the area, get a regular marine unit for
the cabin, forget the charger unless you want battery backup.
Even then get a 12 volt dc power supply to power the radio and/or
float charge your battery so that you have the radio powered even
if the cabin loses electrical power from mains service. YOu can
install a decent antenna on the roof of the cabin or somewhere
else and have 10 miles or so easy.

And the fact that there is a big fine if you get caught isn;t a
factor?

CB it's all according. Sometimes 10 miles can be a push if you've
got the skip rolling good and some loudmouth redneck yelling "how
'bout it skipland!!!" when you're trying to talk between you.

Skip isn;t a possability at 10 miles. Groundwave only.


AT ten miles
without a good gain antenna at both ends chances are good you're
going to be fighting to be heard over the trash.

True, so install a good antenna.

gO marine vhf or gmrs.

GMRS is legal, marine isn't.

YEs both require some licensing, but it's well
worth it in the long run.

License or not, marine is illegal for the proposed situation.

Ham has the same thing with rigs, not many
vhf/uhf rigs made to run off a/c mains power, so in those cases a
decent power supply to power a mobile and a decent base station
antenna will be better investments than a cb radio for reliability.




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Seems like there's a hole in the market here boys! Who's gonna be
the first to plug it?



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There isn't a hole in the market, there is a Giant Regulatory
Roadblock for noncommercial Maritime Shore Stations. They are not
LEGAL by ITU Regulation, not just in the USofA.



Well you can't blame the world's many governments for wanting to keep control of the airwaves. You would have a million DJ's pumping out their drivel, ad infinitum.

The guy mentions medical issues, maybe there are mitigating circumstances, such as the authorities not wishing to pay his funeral expenses, plus compensation to his spouse?

A homing pidgeon is surely within the law, even in the USofA?

I have several for sale, male and female, from $10K each.

Dennis.


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So to summarize, with the possible exception of CB there is no legal way for
me to keep in contact while out fishing that is affordable and likely to
work. However, since I am pretty well off in the boonies with no Coast
Guard and few federal officials I could likely get away with VHF, since it
would really be difficult to distinguish my "base station" from another
boat, and boat to boat communication is perfectly all right. Besides by
the time they tracked me down summer would be over.
:-)

del

In article ,
"Del Cecchi" wrote:

So to summarize, with the possible exception of CB there is no legal way for
me to keep in contact while out fishing that is affordable and likely to
work. However, since I am pretty well off in the boonies with no Coast
Guard and few federal officials I could likely get away with VHF, since it
would really be difficult to distinguish my "base station" from another
boat, and boat to boat communication is perfectly all right. Besides by
the time they tracked me down summer would be over.
:-)

del




Well Yes, all that you state is true, but a Person with an Ounce of
PERSONAL INTEGRITY, wouldn't violate the Law just for convience.
Actually you could very easily just get yourself a Business Radio
Service License, and use Land Mobile VHF Radios and be perfectly
LEGAL, in all respects. I am suprised no one else came up with that
option. It is what Business Radio Service is all about. You will not
get your own Private Frequency, but a shared frequency with PL would do
you just spiffy.....


Bruce in alaska once an FCC Field Agent.........
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"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Del Cecchi" wrote:

So to summarize, with the possible exception of CB there is no legal way
for
me to keep in contact while out fishing that is affordable and likely to
work. However, since I am pretty well off in the boonies with no Coast
Guard and few federal officials I could likely get away with VHF, since
it
would really be difficult to distinguish my "base station" from another
boat, and boat to boat communication is perfectly all right. Besides by
the time they tracked me down summer would be over.
:-)

del




Well Yes, all that you state is true, but a Person with an Ounce of
PERSONAL INTEGRITY, wouldn't violate the Law just for convience.
Actually you could very easily just get yourself a Business Radio
Service License, and use Land Mobile VHF Radios and be perfectly
LEGAL, in all respects. I am suprised no one else came up with that
option. It is what Business Radio Service is all about. You will not
get your own Private Frequency, but a shared frequency with PL would do
you just spiffy.....


Bruce in alaska once an FCC Field Agent.........
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Well Bruce, did you ever drive faster than 55 between 1980 and a few years
ago? :-) Anyway, I was just summarizing options. So where does one buy
those business radios, and what does the license cost?

del

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"Del Cecchi" wrote:

Well Bruce, did you ever drive faster than 55 between 1980 and a few years
ago? :-) Anyway, I was just summarizing options. So where does one buy
those business radios, and what does the license cost?

del

Nope, I live far out in the alaskan bush, and I don't drive on Federal
Roads. There aren't any around here, In fact, the nearest road, that
connects to anywhere, is 350 miles north.

Any Radio Shop in the phonebook can sell you the radios, and they also
can help you with the licensing paperwork. The license is a bit over
$100US as I recall, but that is good for 5 or 10 years.

I still do FCC License Consulting, but I am not cheap. ( $160US/hr )
Mostly Marine Coast Stations and Specialty Exemption Requests, and I
still have a bunch of good contacts in Gettysburg, PA. Just finished
a bunch of RadioLocation Experimental STA's for some small protable
Radar Speed Sensers last month. They are used in RollerCoaster
Testing all around the US, and exceed Part 15 Power Levels, hence
the requirement for the STA's, (Special Temperary Authority) untill
Licensing can figure out what FCC Form the Permenant Station License
needs to be applied for, on, and exactly what Service they are going to
License these devices under. Navigating the FCC Licensing Forms
is a major pain in the ass, but if you know exactly what "Buzz Words",
to stick in which boxes, you can usually get an application "Granted"
first time thru. If not, you lose your Application Fee, and have to
start over. That is what makes Licensing Consulting, such a profitable
sideline.


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On 2005-05-06 said:
Actually you could very easily just get yourself a Business Radio
Service License, and use Land Mobile VHF Radios and be perfectly
LEGAL, in all respects. I am suprised no one else came up with that
option. It is what Business Radio Service is all about. You will
not get your own Private Frequency, but a shared frequency with PL
would do you just spiffy.
True enough, and he could use the same antenna for marine channels,
albeit with another radio.
THis is the same reason I suggested Murs. Only problem is I'm not
hearing of that much equipment available for murs yet. I think
Popular COmmunications did a review of one unit for the Murs freqs a
couple months back but that's the first I"ve seen.
FOr the original poster, check with reputable two-way radio shops in
your area regarding business band equipment for vhf. IF all else
fails ask your plumber heating contractor or other businessmen you
deal with who use two-way radio equipment in their endeavors to steer
you to their provider of services. YOu might find some used
equipment at a reasonable price.
IF you buy new often an application is included for the license.
FOr Murs equipment I think good ol' radio slack is selling murs
equipment these days, those are the "color dot" channels in the vhf
range around 154-155 mhz. NO license required and with a decent
antenna at the cabin you could conceivably achieve ten mile range.





Richard Webb, amateur radio callsign nf5b
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"Del Cecchi" wrote in
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So to summarize, with the possible exception of CB there is no legal
way for me to keep in contact while out fishing that is affordable and
likely to work. However, since I am pretty well off in the boonies
with no Coast Guard and few federal officials I could likely get away
with VHF, since it would really be difficult to distinguish my "base
station" from another boat, and boat to boat communication is
perfectly all right. Besides by the time they tracked me down summer
would be over.
:-)

del



Del, the solution is very simple. Go to:
http://www.qrz.com/p/testing.pl
and click on the Technician License test.

Sit with the wife and study the simple questions. We GIVE THEM AWAY! You
don't have to learn anything but these actual test questions, multiple
guess. Ham radio isn't about electronics any more. It's just a tested CB.

Keep taking the tests until you've memorized most of the answers, then drop
by your local radio shack to find out when the local ham club is giving the
FCC test for Technician. This gets you a license for any ham band above 50
Mhz, especially the 2 meter 144-148 Mhz ham band. I'd bet you're boat is
in range of at least 10 repeaters, some 2000' in the air! Join the local
ham radio club to help support the repeaters' costs and improvements. We
don't bite, no matter what you hear on CB, and you don't have to talk like
a hick with a clothespin on your nose on the radio. A 50W 2 meter FM ham
rig is about $150 and another $30 for a good VHF antenna. (No, you can't
use your VHF marine antenna for 2 meters, so put that out of your mind.
They are too far apart in frequency.)

Getting a Technician ham license is so easy most ham's wives, who could
care less about electronics/radio easily get them just to call the husband
for food orders on the way home. You can also upgrade to General when
you're ready to join the HF marine ham radio nets. The 5wpm Morse Code
tests will shortly be abolished for good. The old farts at the American
Radio Relay League, who have used code to keep very nice folks off ham
radio for decades are all dying off of old age.

Get a ham license! The walkie talkie on my desk can talk 70 miles up the
road through the 147.300 repeater on the WCSC-TV tower N of Charleston.
It's 1,850' straight up!