"Pete Verdon" d wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

You need to learn how circuits work before you spew your nonsense,
Mr. Sprang.

Hmm. Perhaps he should stop being a professional electronics engineer too, eh?

Pete

He needs to go back to school!

CN

In article ,
Capt. Neal® wrote:

He needs to go back to school!

CN

You Sir, are a complete, and utter Moroooon.... (Bugs Bunny Definition)
Now please take you DC Electrical Theories over to one of the
alt.engineering Newsgroups and see if they fly over there...... I can
hear the "Rolling on the floor, Laughing" already.....

We here have been vary patient with you, but your entertainment value
is about run it's course, and your noninformative posts could actually
cost unlearned folks, money and time. I only hope your Navigation skills
aren't on a par with you engineering skills.


Me

"Me" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Capt. Neal® wrote:

He needs to go back to school!

CN

You Sir, are a complete, and utter Moroooon.... (Bugs Bunny Definition)
Now please take you DC Electrical Theories over to one of the
alt.engineering Newsgroups and see if they fly over there...... I can
hear the "Rolling on the floor, Laughing" already.....

We here have been vary patient with you, but your entertainment value
is about run it's course, and your noninformative posts could actually
cost unlearned folks, money and time. I only hope your Navigation skills
aren't on a par with you engineering skills.


Me

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are connected
in a circuit?

CN

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are
connected in a circuit?

Which of these circuits?

http://www.verdonet.org.uk/stuff/The...sBatteries.png

A or B?

Pete

"Pete Verdon" d wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are connected in a circuit?

Which of these circuits?

http://www.verdonet.org.uk/stuff/The...sBatteries.png

A or B?

Pete

Neither!

I'm talking about two 12v batteries in a series circuit meaning one positive pole connected
to the negative pole of the other battery. The left over positive and negative poles must be
connected to some sort of circuit and load such as a light bulb or electronic gadget that will
cause current to flow through the entire circuit.

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I'm talking about two 12v batteries in a series circuit meaning one
positive pole connected
to the negative pole of the other battery. The left over positive and
negative poles must be
connected to some sort of circuit and load such as a light bulb or
electronic gadget that will
cause current to flow through the entire circuit.

In such a circuit, neither battery will charge the other, they will only be
discharged together through the load.
The same current will flow through both batteries, and in both batteries you
can regard the current as "flowing out" of the positive pole.

To charge a battery, current must be flowing "into" the positive pole, which
can only happen if you connect two batteries in parallel, where one is more
discharged than the other.

Meindert

"Meindert Sprang" wrote in message ...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I'm talking about two 12v batteries in a series circuit meaning one
positive pole connected
to the negative pole of the other battery. The left over positive and
negative poles must be
connected to some sort of circuit and load such as a light bulb or
electronic gadget that will
cause current to flow through the entire circuit.

In such a circuit, neither battery will charge the other, they will only be
discharged together through the load.
The same current will flow through both batteries, and in both batteries you
can regard the current as "flowing out" of the positive pole.

To charge a battery, current must be flowing "into" the positive pole, which
can only happen if you connect two batteries in parallel, where one is more
discharged than the other.

Meindert


You are wrong. You cannot run current though a battery backwards. You charge with a charging
source that has higher voltage than the battery and by wiring it so there exists a complete
circuit.

When I connect my photovoltaic to my 12v battery the battery takes a charge because the
photovoltaics operate at 16v at ten amps current. The 16v, being higher than the 12v in the
batteries causes a chemical reaction to occur between the sponge lead and the solid lead
and the acid electrolyte and electrons are stored The chemical reaction reverses when the
photovoltaics are removed and a load placed upon the batteries and electrons are released.
Current never goes backwards in the battery.

This is a common misconception and I'm very surprised so-called engineers fall prey to it.

CN

In article ,
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are connected
in a circuit?

CN

If they are "Series Connected", that is exactly what I am saying, and
claiming, and all your Dufus Theories, will not change the Physical
Laws involved.

Me who wonders if you are going to answer "Bruce in alaska"'s
question......

"Me" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are connected
in a circuit?

CN

If they are "Series Connected", that is exactly what I am saying, and
claiming, and all your Dufus Theories, will not change the Physical
Laws involved.

Me who wonders if you are going to answer "Bruce in alaska"'s
question......

I think I just answered that one of will soon if I missed it.

Do something for me. Take a flashlight that uses two AA batteries in series and put
a discharged ni-cad AA cell and a fully charged ni-cad into it. Turn on the switch and
let it run for about ten minutes. Remove the batteries and check them with a volt
meter. You will find the dead cell is no longer dead. Some of the electrons flowing
through it in the circuit driven by the good battery will have driven the chemical
reaction in the direction that stores electrons.

The very same thing will happen with two 12v batteries in series in a circuit.

CN

Capt. Neal® wrote:


"Me" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Are you trying to claim that a battery in certain state of discharge
cannot
be charged by a battery that is fully charged if the batteries are
connected
in a circuit?

CN


If they are "Series Connected", that is exactly what I am saying, and
claiming, and all your Dufus Theories, will not change the Physical
Laws involved.

Me who wonders if you are going to answer "Bruce in alaska"'s
question......


I think I just answered that one of will soon if I missed it.

Do something for me. Take a flashlight that uses two AA batteries in
series and put
a discharged ni-cad AA cell and a fully charged ni-cad into it. Turn on
the switch and
let it run for about ten minutes. Remove the batteries and check them
with a volt
meter. You will find the dead cell is no longer dead. Some of the
electrons flowing
through it in the circuit driven by the good battery will have driven
the chemical
reaction in the direction that stores electrons.

The very same thing will happen with two 12v batteries in series in a
circuit.

CN

But electrons don't flow through a battery! Your words.
krj