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[email protected] February 3rd 05 07:11 AM

IC-751 for onboard use
 
Dear All

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the suitability of the Icom
IC-751 for use on board both for ham and marine SSB work - I believe
they can easily be opened to transmit outside the ham bands.
Is there any way to use for email by SSB?

Thanks


krj February 3rd 05 06:41 PM

If you have a General or above ham license, you can use winlink 2000
stations and airmail client for email. If you are not a ham there is
sailmail available for a $250 annual fee. You need a SSB tranceiver and
a Pactor TNC.
Kelton
W4IND

wrote:
Dear All

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the suitability of the Icom
IC-751 for use on board both for ham and marine SSB work - I believe
they can easily be opened to transmit outside the ham bands.
Is there any way to use for email by SSB?

Thanks



Me February 3rd 05 08:09 PM

In article .com,
wrote:

Dear All

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the suitability of the Icom
IC-751 for use on board both for ham and marine SSB work - I believe
they can easily be opened to transmit outside the ham bands.
Is there any way to use for email by SSB?

Thanks


Ok, are you ready for the inevitable FLAME, for suggesting that it is
OK to use a NON-TYPE ACCEPTED Radio on Frequencies that Require TYPE
ACCEPTED Radio Equipment? Better get you Asbestos Suit ON, as they are
sure to be coming your way.


Me who knows better than to ask "THAT" Stupid question around
here.....

Doug Dotson February 3rd 05 09:21 PM

I believe that most newer ham rigs are now type accepted for
Marine SSB use. I know that the SGC SG-2000 was the only
one for a long time but I'm pretty sure there are others. Not sure
about the IC-751 specifically. Easy enough to find out though.

Doug, k3qt

"Me" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
wrote:

Dear All

Does anyone have any experience/comments on the suitability of the Icom
IC-751 for use on board both for ham and marine SSB work - I believe
they can easily be opened to transmit outside the ham bands.
Is there any way to use for email by SSB?

Thanks


Ok, are you ready for the inevitable FLAME, for suggesting that it is
OK to use a NON-TYPE ACCEPTED Radio on Frequencies that Require TYPE
ACCEPTED Radio Equipment? Better get you Asbestos Suit ON, as they are
sure to be coming your way.


Me who knows better than to ask "THAT" Stupid question around
here.....




[email protected] February 4th 05 06:02 AM

Thanks for these. I am in the process of obtaining a 'full' ham
licence. I am aware that the set is not type-approved for marine SSB.
Its principle function will be for ham use - but it would seem foolish
not to have the option to access both sets of frequencies should the
need arise.

I was really hoping for information along the lines of, 'its fandoogle
is very sensitive to damp and it will immediately loose its
transmodulatory capability in a marine environment'.

(I am aware of its potential for brain death due to its volatile ROM)


Me February 4th 05 06:58 PM

In article ,
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

I believe that most newer ham rigs are now type accepted for
Marine SSB use. I know that the SGC SG-2000 was the only
one for a long time but I'm pretty sure there are others. Not sure
about the IC-751 specifically. Easy enough to find out though.

Doug, k3qt


Actually, that is not the case. The SG-2000 was a commercial
MF/HF Radio that some hams actually got conned into buying.
"Peeair" still can't design HIS way out of a wet paper bag.
I can't think of ONE radio sold into the Ham market, that is
TYPE ACCEPTED for commercial use. The design criteria is
different for commercial radios, and to be TYPE ACCEPTED
they can't have a Continious Tuning VFO type operational
system.

Me

Doug Dotson February 4th 05 11:10 PM


"Me" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

I believe that most newer ham rigs are now type accepted for
Marine SSB use. I know that the SGC SG-2000 was the only
one for a long time but I'm pretty sure there are others. Not sure
about the IC-751 specifically. Easy enough to find out though.

Doug, k3qt


Actually, that is not the case. The SG-2000 was a commercial
MF/HF Radio that some hams actually got conned into buying.
"Peeair" still can't design HIS way out of a wet paper bag.
I can't think of ONE radio sold into the Ham market, that is
TYPE ACCEPTED for commercial use. The design criteria is
different for commercial radios, and to be TYPE ACCEPTED
they can't have a Continious Tuning VFO type operational
system.


I know what it means. Perhaps someone else has a definitive answer
but I'm sure that someone in a position to know confirmed that some
ham rigs are type accepted. May have been an ICOM rep at one
of the boat shows. I seem to remember that the rationale was
that digital synthesized rigs are plenty stable enough to be relied upon
to openate on frequency.

Me




Me February 5th 05 06:37 PM

In article ,
"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

I seem to remember that the rationale was
that digital synthesized rigs are plenty stable enough to be relied upon
to openate on frequency.


That's not the point at all. It is, that commercial Type Accepted radios
are all channelized frequencies as specified by the ITU, and therefore
the frequency control system must be channelized with just ITU
Frequencies avalable for selection, in order to meet Type Acceptance.
That is just one of the technical differences between the two radio
types. Stability hasn't been the issue for about 10 years. IMD
on the otherhand IS a very big issue for Type Acceptance, and most
Ham type radios can't meet the IMD spec, or even get in the same
ballpark.

Me

Larry W4CSC February 7th 05 10:40 AM

wrote in
oups.com:

Thanks for these. I am in the process of obtaining a 'full' ham
licence.


Way to go! Welcome to ham radio. I've been a ham since I was 11 in 1957
and it's been a helluva ride. (Rick is looking through old callbooks as we
speak to verify that...(c;)



Larry W4CSC February 7th 05 10:43 AM

Me wrote in news:Me-
:

most
Ham type radios can't meet the IMD spec, or even get in the same
ballpark.


Most ham radios can tell when your local AM stations are out of tolerance,
now...(c; My Yaesu FT-990 with the high stability master oscillator
doesn't vary off WWV on 15 Mhz over a couple of cycles in a year!

No radio with a VFO will get type acceptance for commercial use. It's how
the FCC keeps unqualified, non-technical operators away from other
services.....




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