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If you ASK the Volunteer Examiner at the time of testing, they can and will
arrange for lights, bells or ANY other device to take the code test. I had the same problem, but eventually passed the 13 wpm test. The people administering the test will bend over backwards to help. Leonard, KJ5DL Advanced Class Accredited Volunteer Examiner (ARRL & W5YI-VEC) "KJ5DL @ N34 38.253 W092 07.177" "Do illiterate people get the full value of Alphabet Soup?" |
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And if you have a bonifide learning or physical disability,
you can get an exemption from the FCC. My experience has been that most that cry foul about learnig code do so because they failed to learn it after two or three evenings of trying. It takes work, some more than others. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "LLongiii" wrote in message ... If you ASK the Volunteer Examiner at the time of testing, they can and will arrange for lights, bells or ANY other device to take the code test. I had the same problem, but eventually passed the 13 wpm test. The people administering the test will bend over backwards to help. Leonard, KJ5DL Advanced Class Accredited Volunteer Examiner (ARRL & W5YI-VEC) "KJ5DL @ N34 38.253 W092 07.177" "Do illiterate people get the full value of Alphabet Soup?" |
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I beg to disagree. Every complaint I have heard focuses on the fact that
Morse Code is so obsolete that it has no practical value, not on its difficulty per se. People who have spent 12 years attending high school then four and more in college learning useful things are reluctant to spend even a dozen hours learning something ase useless (to them) as Morse Code. "Doug Dotson" wrote ..... My experience has been that most that cry foul about learnig code do so because they failed to learn it after two or three evenings of trying. It takes work, some more than others. |
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Why continue to complain about something you can't change? It started out to be
5 wpm for novice, 13 wpm for General and 21 wpm for Extra. It is now 5 wpm for ALL. Until they drop the REQUIREMENT, it is still there. Go for the no-code tset and keep trying. Your outhe option is a sat-phone. Leonard KJ5DL "KJ5DL @ N34 38.253 W092 07.177" "Do illiterate people get the full value of Alphabet Soup?" |
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"LLongiii" wrote
Why continue to complain about something you can't change? It started out to be 5 wpm for novice, 13 wpm for General and 21 wpm for Extra. It is now 5 wpm for ALL. Until they drop the REQUIREMENT, it is still there. Because we CAN change it. The 13 and 21 WPM requirements went away when enough people complained. The current 5 wpm will also go away, but only if we complain long and hard enough. 73, K3DWW |
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Just a cop-out. I suspect that folks learn alot more useless
(and incorrect) things in school than having to learn the code. The requirement is there, deal with it! Whining isn't going to make the requirement go away nor will it get a license. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "Vito" wrote in message ... I beg to disagree. Every complaint I have heard focuses on the fact that Morse Code is so obsolete that it has no practical value, not on its difficulty per se. People who have spent 12 years attending high school then four and more in college learning useful things are reluctant to spend even a dozen hours learning something ase useless (to them) as Morse Code. "Doug Dotson" wrote ..... My experience has been that most that cry foul about learnig code do so because they failed to learn it after two or three evenings of trying. It takes work, some more than others. |
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"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
... Just a cop-out. I suspect that folks learn alot more useless (and incorrect) things in school than having to learn the code. The requirement is there, deal with it! Whining isn't going to make the requirement go away nor will it get a license. Oh yes it will - just like it made the 13 & 21 wpm requirements go away. There will be no Morse requirement in five years. Nor can I imagine anything more useless than Morse code. Those who want to keep the requirement are usually selfish snivelers who think everybody should suffer the same hardships as they did. Unable to justify their position on technical, moral or logical grounds they perforce resort to name calling and referring to facts they cannot refute as whining. I participate in my wife's VE team. I recommend that people learn code too - for now. But if they wait a year or two, they won't have to. 73, K3DWW |
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"Vito" wrote in message ... "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... Just a cop-out. I suspect that folks learn alot more useless (and incorrect) things in school than having to learn the code. The requirement is there, deal with it! Whining isn't going to make the requirement go away nor will it get a license. Oh yes it will - just like it made the 13 & 21 wpm requirements go away. When was there ever a 21 WPM requirement? It was 20 WPM when I tried it. Incidently I was never able to pass the 20 WPM. Not because I was learning disabled but rather because I didn't really give a damn enough to keep studying. I got my Extra class when the requirements changed. 5 WPM is hardly a substantial barrier, just a psychological one. A good teacher can get folks past it. I have done it dozens of time. There will be no Morse requirement in five years. I trust this will be the case. So you want cruising sailors to be deprived of the utility and safety of a ham license for 5 years? Most cruisers don't cruise that long. Nor can I imagine anything more useless than Morse code. You have a poor imagination. I communicate quite efficiently using CW. Very good for DX in poor conditions. Clearly not useless. Those who want to keep the requirement are usually selfish snivelers who think everybody should suffer the same hardships as they did. That's a different issue. On one hand you claim it should be abolished because it is obsolete, on the other you are saying that hard core CW buffs want to keep it because other should suffer the agony (which is a myth) of learning it. Which is it? Obsolete or or a Rite Of Passage? Unable to justify their position on technical, moral or logical grounds they perforce resort to name calling and referring to facts they cannot refute as whining. Technically, CW is a sound means of communications. More so than some others. Morally, I fail to see any moral aspects to this. Logically, I also see no issue. The problem is international law which has lagged behind the technology. Hopefully that will sort itself out soon. I participate in my wife's VE team. I recommend that people learn code too - for now. But if they wait a year or two, they won't have to. Good advise based upon the realities now in place. That is where you need to be. Stick to the reality rather than the politics. Or tell her perspective examinees to keep their desires of becoming a ham on hold until a simple code test goes away. 73, K3DWW |
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Anybody who has worked in the training or educational fields knows of the
problems that "test anxiety" can cause. They also know that people learn in a variety of manners and have various strengths and weaknesses. And don't stereotype everyone in a category based on the experience of a few. You sound like someone for which morse code came relatively easy when compared to others' experiences. I worked religiously for one and half hours a day, every single day without exception for over three months and the best I could do was 4 1/2 WPM, not enough to pass the exam. I am a visual learner, those who do well on the code tests are probably auditory learners. My brain is just not wired the way to make the learning the code possible in any reasonable fashion. After that failed attempt work and family demands stepped in to prevent me from spending that kind of time for several years. By then I was moving into the programming field and haven't had the desire (or time) to make another attempt like that. JJ On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:34:25 -0400, "Doug Dotson" wrote: And if you have a bonifide learning or physical disability, you can get an exemption from the FCC. My experience has been that most that cry foul about learnig code do so because they failed to learn it after two or three evenings of trying. It takes work, some more than others. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "LLongiii" wrote in message ... If you ASK the Volunteer Examiner at the time of testing, they can and will arrange for lights, bells or ANY other device to take the code test. I had the same problem, but eventually passed the 13 wpm test. The people administering the test will bend over backwards to help. Leonard, KJ5DL Advanced Class Accredited Volunteer Examiner (ARRL & W5YI-VEC) "KJ5DL @ N34 38.253 W092 07.177" "Do illiterate people get the full value of Alphabet Soup?" James Johnson remove the "dot" from after sail in email address to reply |
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Comments below.
Doug s/v Callista "James Johnson" wrote in message ... Anybody who has worked in the training or educational fields knows of the problems that "test anxiety" can cause. They also know that people learn in a variety of manners and have various strengths and weaknesses. And don't stereotype everyone in a category based on the experience of a few. You sound like someone for which morse code came relatively easy when compared to others' experiences. Actually, code did not come to me easily at all. It took weeks of practice to barely get up to 13 WPM. I was never ever to get to 20 WPM. Peaked out at maybe 18. I worked religiously for one and half hours a day, every single day without exception for over three months and the best I could do was 4 1/2 WPM, not enough to pass the exam. As you said earlier, people learn things in different ways. It sounds like the way you were trying to learn was not appropriate for the way your brain is wired. I was an educator for many years. I have found that in most instances when a student is having trouble with a concept, presenting it in a different manner does the trick. Perhaps finding someone to work with may help. I am a visual learner, those who do well on the code tests are probably auditory learners. My brain is just not wired the way to make the learning the code possible in any reasonable fashion. After that failed attempt work and family demands stepped in to prevent me from spending that kind of time for several years. By then I was moving into the programming field and haven't had the desire (or time) to make another attempt like that. I had the same problem. I am mostly a visual learner as well. JJ On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:34:25 -0400, "Doug Dotson" wrote: And if you have a bonifide learning or physical disability, you can get an exemption from the FCC. My experience has been that most that cry foul about learnig code do so because they failed to learn it after two or three evenings of trying. It takes work, some more than others. Doug, k3qt s/v Callista "LLongiii" wrote in message ... If you ASK the Volunteer Examiner at the time of testing, they can and will arrange for lights, bells or ANY other device to take the code test. I had the same problem, but eventually passed the 13 wpm test. The people administering the test will bend over backwards to help. Leonard, KJ5DL Advanced Class Accredited Volunteer Examiner (ARRL & W5YI-VEC) "KJ5DL @ N34 38.253 W092 07.177" "Do illiterate people get the full value of Alphabet Soup?" James Johnson remove the "dot" from after sail in email address to reply |
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