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Larry W4CSC January 27th 04 05:50 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!

The model is VEC1093A.
http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html
WalMart has it discounted to $89 and change from its $110 retail.
Walmart also makes refunds and returns just too easy, any port in the
country.

This charger uses a 100A switching power supply controlled by a
job-specific microprocessor. Click on the downloadable owner's manual
on the page to see how it works. It will charge a wide variety of
batteries from 2, 10, 20 and 40 amps and provide 100A of starting
current to get an engine moving WHEN THE COMPUTER SAYS YOU CAN.

Here in the shop, tonight, it's in its desufinating mode pulsing and
discharging my deep cycle trollilng motor battery for the free dingy's
auxiliary thruster. This mode is supposed to clean off and recover
the surface lead sulphate that didn't get recovered during the regular
charge cycle.

The charger is VERY light, being a switcher, not an analog with a huge
transformer. It doesn't have any transformer at all, at least not a
clunky 60Hz one. It has the SAME 3-stage constant current, then
tapering current constant voltage, then floating voltage technology
your favorite Waste Marine store wants $800 for with the yacht club
flag sticker on it. I think this thing has better metering at $89.
You can buy a SEPARATE charger for EACH battery bank at this price!

Its only drawback as a "boat charger" I see is it shuts off after the
charging cycle is complete, going to sleep until you press the button
again. But, for $720, I could click that ON button a LOT of times on
THIS 40 amp fancy house battery charger, couldn't you?

Go take a look. Cool technology at a VERY reasonable price.....

I should have stayed out in the cold rain behind the tire shop....(c;

http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Harry Krause January 27th 04 10:24 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Larry W4CSC wrote:

One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!


It just figures that you would be a big fan of Wal-Mart, the rogue
emplouer, predatory retailer and largest U.S. purveyor of goods made by
exploited workers in the communist People's Republic of China.



Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!



Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?



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Ken Heaton January 27th 04 11:05 AM

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Comments below:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:

One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!

It just figures that you would be a big fan of Wal-Mart, the rogue
emplouer, predatory retailer and largest U.S. purveyor of goods made by
exploited workers in the communist People's Republic of China.

Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!


Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?
--
Email sent to is never read.


This must be a record for haw fast you can take a thread off topic. Isn't
it customary to put OT in the header (as a courtesy) if you're going to do
this?
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca



Christopher Robin January 27th 04 02:51 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Harry Krause wrote in message ...



It just figures that you would be a big fan of Wal-Mart, the rogue
emplouer, predatory retailer and largest U.S. purveyor of goods made by
exploited workers in the communist People's Republic of China.





Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?



It's not working, Hairball. You're a lousy troll and a has-been.

Charles January 27th 04 02:53 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 


Harry Krause wrote:

It just figures that you would be a big fan of Wal-Mart, the rogue
emplouer, predatory retailer and largest U.S. purveyor of goods made by
exploited workers in the communist People's Republic of China.


For a moment, let's go with your rant and pretend it's true.

Tell us then, is what Walmart does any different than the theft going on
at Ullico?


Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:

-----------------------
For media inquiries, please contact the individual listed below:
Harry Krause
ULLICO Inc.
(202) 682-7957



Union Pension-Owned Company Set to Lose $20-$30 Million

Its stock windfall from the bankrupt Global Crossing now gone, Georgine,
former head of the AFL-CIO's Bldg. & Construction Trades Dept., blamed
chief financial officer John Grelle for the losses. Days later, Grelle
resigned in protest, blasting Georgine for not selling the company jet,
which costs $3 million a year. There was no indication if Grelle also
called on Georgine and other union boss directors of Ullico to return
the more than $6 million they made in inside deals of Ullico stock in
2000 and 2001. In the late 90s, Ullico was able to buy Global Crossing
stock at its initial public offering (IPO) price. By 1999, a $7.6
million investment had mushroomed to $335 million. After pricing its own
stock at a set $25 per share, Ullico directors changed the rules,
setting a new price at the beginning of each year.

Global Crossing spiraled toward bankruptcy, and Ullico's stock took a
tumble, the Ullico directors who had bought their stock at $54 a share
were given two opportunities to sell it back, the first time for $146 a
share, the second time for $75. As Georgine and the other Ullico
officials made $6.7 million in profits, the union pension funds that own
Ullico could not take advantage of the same deal.

[New York Times 3/28/03]
-----------------------

Oh, right, I forgot. This Ullico fraud is something you will not talk
about. You just want to talk about others and not about your own
involvement in immoral acts.

One has to shake ones head about someone who has taken a sanctimonous
attitude about workers rights, fairness, and compensation, and then is
involved with a company who is stealing from those very workers. Such is
democratic liberalism: watch my mouth not my hand.

-- Charlie


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JimL January 27th 04 05:39 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
I Looked at the owners manual from their website. Looking at the
Performance Features, it's very impressive. Especially the
Recondition mode. Got an old battery to test that feature?

Don't forget to send that warranty card in! I noticed that it
has a five year warranty *IF* you send in the warranty card within
10 days of purchase.


-JimL


Larry W4CSC wrote:
One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!

The model is VEC1093A.
http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html
WalMart has it discounted to $89 and change from its $110 retail.
Walmart also makes refunds and returns just too easy, any port in the
country.

This charger uses a 100A switching power supply controlled by a
job-specific microprocessor. Click on the downloadable owner's manual
on the page to see how it works. It will charge a wide variety of
batteries from 2, 10, 20 and 40 amps and provide 100A of starting
current to get an engine moving WHEN THE COMPUTER SAYS YOU CAN.

Here in the shop, tonight, it's in its desufinating mode pulsing and
discharging my deep cycle trollilng motor battery for the free dingy's
auxiliary thruster. This mode is supposed to clean off and recover
the surface lead sulphate that didn't get recovered during the regular
charge cycle.

The charger is VERY light, being a switcher, not an analog with a huge
transformer. It doesn't have any transformer at all, at least not a
clunky 60Hz one. It has the SAME 3-stage constant current, then
tapering current constant voltage, then floating voltage technology
your favorite Waste Marine store wants $800 for with the yacht club
flag sticker on it. I think this thing has better metering at $89.
You can buy a SEPARATE charger for EACH battery bank at this price!

Its only drawback as a "boat charger" I see is it shuts off after the
charging cycle is complete, going to sleep until you press the button
again. But, for $720, I could click that ON button a LOT of times on
THIS 40 amp fancy house battery charger, couldn't you?

Go take a look. Cool technology at a VERY reasonable price.....

I should have stayed out in the cold rain behind the tire shop....(c;

http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!



Backyard Renegade January 27th 04 06:05 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Harry Krause wrote in message ...
Larry W4CSC wrote:

One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!


It just figures that you would be a big fan of Wal-Mart, the rogue
emplouer, predatory retailer and largest U.S. purveyor of goods made by
exploited workers in the communist People's Republic of China.



Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!



Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?


Your trolling is not working anymore, this must be very upsetting to
you. Why bother addressing your posts, they are not based on fact and
you have freely admitted you are only here to shill for the party, and
screw with us?
Later troll...

Gary Schafer January 27th 04 06:47 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
That looks like a pretty nice battery charger! However it is not very
detailed as to what the three stages really are. They seem to indicate
that the last stage is a float mode but the unit turns off soon after
entering that third stage. If it was really a float mode I would think
that they would keep it on.

Now, you have to buy the "battery life saver". This thing looks like
some new magic that is akin to the magnetic fuel conditioning device.

Regards
Gary

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:50:12 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!

The model is VEC1093A.
http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html
WalMart has it discounted to $89 and change from its $110 retail.
Walmart also makes refunds and returns just too easy, any port in the
country.

This charger uses a 100A switching power supply controlled by a
job-specific microprocessor. Click on the downloadable owner's manual
on the page to see how it works. It will charge a wide variety of
batteries from 2, 10, 20 and 40 amps and provide 100A of starting
current to get an engine moving WHEN THE COMPUTER SAYS YOU CAN.

Here in the shop, tonight, it's in its desufinating mode pulsing and
discharging my deep cycle trollilng motor battery for the free dingy's
auxiliary thruster. This mode is supposed to clean off and recover
the surface lead sulphate that didn't get recovered during the regular
charge cycle.

The charger is VERY light, being a switcher, not an analog with a huge
transformer. It doesn't have any transformer at all, at least not a
clunky 60Hz one. It has the SAME 3-stage constant current, then
tapering current constant voltage, then floating voltage technology
your favorite Waste Marine store wants $800 for with the yacht club
flag sticker on it. I think this thing has better metering at $89.
You can buy a SEPARATE charger for EACH battery bank at this price!

Its only drawback as a "boat charger" I see is it shuts off after the
charging cycle is complete, going to sleep until you press the button
again. But, for $720, I could click that ON button a LOT of times on
THIS 40 amp fancy house battery charger, couldn't you?

Go take a look. Cool technology at a VERY reasonable price.....

I should have stayed out in the cold rain behind the tire shop....(c;

http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!



Doug Kanter January 27th 04 07:26 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
"Charles" wrote in message
...


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:


How was Harry involved with the Ullico saga?



Charles January 27th 04 07:57 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:


How was Harry involved with the Ullico saga?



Ha ha ha ha ha. Good one Douglas.

-- Charlie


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Doug Kanter January 27th 04 08:17 PM

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"Charles" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:


How was Harry involved with the Ullico saga?



Ha ha ha ha ha. Good one Douglas.

-- Charlie


I honestly don't know! Do you have an answer?



NOYB January 27th 04 08:42 PM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Charles" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:


How was Harry involved with the Ullico saga?



Ha ha ha ha ha. Good one Douglas.

-- Charlie


I honestly don't know! Do you have an answer?


Harry reported that he owned Global Crossing and turned a nice profit a year
before news of the Global Crossing scandal broke.

In February 2002, Harry wrote:
"Speculation futures? Is that on the NASDAQ? Sorry, Markie, but the last
speculative investment I made (and got out of a year ago) wasn't in
commodities. It was the now notorious Global Crossing."

In March, 2003, the NY Times wrote:
"In the late 90s, Ullico was able to buy Global Crossing
stock at its initial public offering (IPO) price. By 1999, a $7.6
million investment had mushroomed to $335 million. After pricing its own
stock at a set $25 per share, Ullico directors changed the rules,
setting a new price at the beginning of each year.

Global Crossing spiraled toward bankruptcy, and Ullico's stock took a
tumble, the Ullico directors who had bought their stock at $54 a share
were given two opportunities to sell it back, the first time for $146 a
share, the second time for $75. As Georgine and the other Ullico
officials made $6.7 million in profits, the union pension funds that own
Ullico could not take advantage of the same deal."
----------------------------------------------------

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit, while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.







Doug Kanter January 27th 04 08:54 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit,

while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


What does Harry say about this? I've only seen KSmith's streams of vomit,
which I have no patience for.



Ken Heaton January 27th 04 09:06 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Ken Heaton wrote:

Comments below:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:


snipped bits were here

Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?
--
Email sent to is never read.


This must be a record for haw fast you can take a thread off topic.

Isn't
it customary to put OT in the header (as a courtesy) if you're going to

do
this?
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca


I believe Larry took this post "off-topic" with the bit of garbage he
puts at the end of his posts, extolling U.S. imperialism.


Harry, you've certainly got a point there.

Larry, why do you put that bit on the end of your posts? You don't actually
believe the US should take by force the resources of another country? Do
you believe the US has the right to take what it pleases? Curious.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca



NOYB January 27th 04 09:19 PM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit,

while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


What does Harry say about this? I've only seen KSmith's streams of vomit,
which I have no patience for.


Harry says nothing...methinks under the advice of counsel.



Harry Krause January 27th 04 09:57 PM

OT Hijacking a discussion, was Bought cool new digital charger....$89?
 
Ken Heaton wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c3dhc2g=.4c5c86796eb9b8d5e9b813243cdee911@107 5221877.cotse.net...
Ken Heaton wrote:

Comments below:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:


snipped bits were here

Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Perhaps those people who think that a military invasion of another
country to steal its assets is immoral? But, then, what would you know
about that kind of morality?
--
Email sent to is never read.

This must be a record for haw fast you can take a thread off topic.

Isn't
it customary to put OT in the header (as a courtesy) if you're going to

do
this?
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca


I believe Larry took this post "off-topic" with the bit of garbage he
puts at the end of his posts, extolling U.S. imperialism.


Harry, you've certainly got a point there.

Larry, why do you put that bit on the end of your posts? You don't actually
believe the US should take by force the resources of another country? Do
you believe the US has the right to take what it pleases? Curious.



BTW, I took a look at that site...there's no indication where the goods
are manufacturerd. Further, the chargers are for old-tech wet batteries
only...no AGM batteries.

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is never read.

Charles January 27th 04 10:03 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 


NOYB wrote:

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit,

while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


What does Harry say about this? I've only seen KSmith's streams of vomit,
which I have no patience for.


Harry says nothing...methinks under the advice of counsel.



Well perhaps, but more likely his hand is still in the Ullico cookie
jar. He just happened to get exposed this time.

Whichever it is, it illustrates what krause fundamentally is: A flaming hypocrite.

-- Charlie


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Doug Kanter January 27th 04 10:05 PM

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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit,

while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


What does Harry say about this? I've only seen KSmith's streams of

vomit,
which I have no patience for.


Harry says nothing...methinks under the advice of counsel.



Was he a director? Or "other" within the company, listening to whispers?



Harry Krause January 27th 04 10:26 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit,

while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


What does Harry say about this? I've only seen KSmith's streams of vomit,
which I have no patience for.



Check your email account listed here, Doug.

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Joe Della Barba January 27th 04 11:28 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
The on-line manual states that marine batteries must be REMOVED for
charging. Obviously this unit is not intended to be installed aboard a
boat.
Joe
BTW, the reason we are not keeping Iraq's oil is that the USA and the
UK are honourable nations and are not going around the world stealing
things that look interesting.

Larry W4CSC January 27th 04 11:45 PM

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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:39:15 GMT, JimL
wrote:

I Looked at the owners manual from their website. Looking at the
Performance Features, it's very impressive. Especially the
Recondition mode. Got an old battery to test that feature?


The carefully worded manual says it is to rejuvie working batteries,
not raise the dead. I reconditioned an old trolling motor battery
last night and all day today, but I've been in Orangeburg, SC, all day
trying to save my father's home from the terrible ice storm which just
tore Orangeburg apart Monday. Worst ice storm we've had since the
1970's! So, I haven't had time to test the AH rating of the trolling
motor battery.

Tonight, I'm reconditioning the 330AH golf cart house batteries in my
stepvan electronics shop. They're good batteries, too, but this is
probably good for them. They go through hell when I jerk 60ADC out of
them to power a loud music system at some outdoor party. I'm sure
they could use it.

Don't forget to send that warranty card in! I noticed that it
has a five year warranty *IF* you send in the warranty card within
10 days of purchase.

Yes, already sent...(c; Noticed they have no online registration. I
also sent them my OPT-OUT warning with the card, properly encoded data
so I can tell if they sell my information to outside parties, the
usual reason they are so adamant these days about having your personal
information....so they can sell it to the spammers.


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Charles January 27th 04 11:46 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 


Harry Krause wrote:

Harry was working for ULLICO and using insider info to make a profit, while
those with money in the union pension funds got screwed.


You're wrong on all three counts.


Of course as one who has a relationship with this company, who is the
spokesperson for them, you are to be believed? Kind of like we should
believe what President Bush's aides say.

Yea, right.

-- Charlie


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NOYB January 27th 04 11:54 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Check your email account listed here, Doug.


See, Doug? Innocent people don't behave this way.



SB January 28th 04 12:04 AM

Bought cool new digital charger & OPT OUT CODE ....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Larry:

Any chance you can share that opt out encoding with any of us? Sounds like
fun and a good way to complete some of those mandatory registration
processes.

BTW: I got a kick out of your tag line.

Bob

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:39:15 GMT, JimL
wrote:

I Looked at the owners manual from their website. Looking at the
Performance Features, it's very impressive. Especially the
Recondition mode. Got an old battery to test that feature?


The carefully worded manual says it is to rejuvie working batteries,
not raise the dead. I reconditioned an old trolling motor battery
last night and all day today, but I've been in Orangeburg, SC, all day
trying to save my father's home from the terrible ice storm which just
tore Orangeburg apart Monday. Worst ice storm we've had since the
1970's! So, I haven't had time to test the AH rating of the trolling
motor battery.

Tonight, I'm reconditioning the 330AH golf cart house batteries in my
stepvan electronics shop. They're good batteries, too, but this is
probably good for them. They go through hell when I jerk 60ADC out of
them to power a loud music system at some outdoor party. I'm sure
they could use it.

Don't forget to send that warranty card in! I noticed that it
has a five year warranty *IF* you send in the warranty card within
10 days of purchase.

Yes, already sent...(c; Noticed they have no online registration. I
also sent them my OPT-OUT warning with the card, properly encoded data
so I can tell if they sell my information to outside parties, the
usual reason they are so adamant these days about having your personal
information....so they can sell it to the spammers.


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!




Harry Krause January 28th 04 01:54 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Charles" wrote in message
...


Yes, let's talk about morality, something you know little about
personally. Let's talk about Ullico, and stealing and fraud:


How was Harry involved with the Ullico saga?



He wasn't.

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Jim January 28th 04 03:45 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
I'd rather pay more somewhere else. Anywhere else.


Larry W4CSC wrote:
One of my WalMart tires had another nail in it so I made the mistake
of returning it under my road hazard warranty for another free,
no-hassle replacement at WalMart, today. It cost me over $100 to
replace the tire which cost me $0.00 labor and tire. WalMart is slick
marketing. You can't help but look around while waiting....(c;

WalMart is handling a new line of Vector switching,
microprocessor-controlled "Smart" battery chargers. I had to buy the
biggest one, of course. It's a manly charger...(c; AR! AR!

The model is VEC1093A.
http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html
WalMart has it discounted to $89 and change from its $110 retail.
Walmart also makes refunds and returns just too easy, any port in the
country.

This charger uses a 100A switching power supply controlled by a
job-specific microprocessor. Click on the downloadable owner's manual
on the page to see how it works. It will charge a wide variety of
batteries from 2, 10, 20 and 40 amps and provide 100A of starting
current to get an engine moving WHEN THE COMPUTER SAYS YOU CAN.

Here in the shop, tonight, it's in its desufinating mode pulsing and
discharging my deep cycle trollilng motor battery for the free dingy's
auxiliary thruster. This mode is supposed to clean off and recover
the surface lead sulphate that didn't get recovered during the regular
charge cycle.

The charger is VERY light, being a switcher, not an analog with a huge
transformer. It doesn't have any transformer at all, at least not a
clunky 60Hz one. It has the SAME 3-stage constant current, then
tapering current constant voltage, then floating voltage technology
your favorite Waste Marine store wants $800 for with the yacht club
flag sticker on it. I think this thing has better metering at $89.
You can buy a SEPARATE charger for EACH battery bank at this price!

Its only drawback as a "boat charger" I see is it shuts off after the
charging cycle is complete, going to sleep until you press the button
again. But, for $720, I could click that ON button a LOT of times on
THIS 40 amp fancy house battery charger, couldn't you?

Go take a look. Cool technology at a VERY reasonable price.....

I should have stayed out in the cold rain behind the tire shop....(c;

http://www.battery-rechargeable-char...y-charger.html


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!



Chris January 28th 04 04:51 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
BTW, the reason we are not keeping Iraq's oil is that the USA and the
UK are honourable nations and are not going around the world stealing
things that look interesting.


Well, THAT was a good one. ;

Chris

JimL January 28th 04 08:36 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
I mentioned the warranty as I wasn't familiar with Vector
but did happen to notice that on the last page. Personally,
I *NEVER* send in warranty cards. Well, lo and behold, this
past fall I managed to fry my Schumacher 2/15/100 charger
by jump starting a mower and when one battery clip popped
off and made contact with the other while in 100 amp mode,
the charger mysteriously stopped working. :^) I called
Schumacher, told them I had bought it a year before and
didn't hide the fact of what happened. They told me to
send it in. No questions asked, not even proof of purchase
for when I bought it. I did and they fixed it. I don't
remember if there was a warranty card to even send in as I
noted above, I wouldn't have sent it anyway. I'll reconsider
in the future. :^)

-JimL

Larry W4CSC wrote:
removed

Yes, already sent...(c; Noticed they have no online registration. I
also sent them my OPT-OUT warning with the card, properly encoded data
so I can tell if they sell my information to outside parties, the
usual reason they are so adamant these days about having your personal
information....so they can sell it to the spammers.



Doug January 29th 04 01:29 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Have you checked for RF noise on an HF receiver? I would hate to see a bunch
of these running in a marine if they are noisy as I suspect they be.
73
Doug K7ABX



Larry W4CSC January 29th 04 01:43 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:29:17 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:

Have you checked for RF noise on an HF receiver? I would hate to see a bunch
of these running in a marine if they are noisy as I suspect they be.
73
Doug K7ABX


No, I sure haven't, Doug. Mine's reconditioning the 6-year-old diesel
starting battery in my restored 1973 Mercedes 220D antique car,
tonight. I'll check it, when I can.

It can't be any noisier than that damned dual 10A Guest under the aft
cabin bunk in Lionheart. It's 20 over S9 across the HF bands on the
M802/AT140/backstay. Damned thing makes more noise than an electric
drill and VERY wideband!


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

del cecchi January 29th 04 03:13 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:29:17 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:

Have you checked for RF noise on an HF receiver? I would hate to see

a bunch
of these running in a marine if they are noisy as I suspect they be.
73
Doug K7ABX


No, I sure haven't, Doug. Mine's reconditioning the 6-year-old diesel
starting battery in my restored 1973 Mercedes 220D antique car,
tonight. I'll check it, when I can.

It can't be any noisier than that damned dual 10A Guest under the aft
cabin bunk in Lionheart. It's 20 over S9 across the HF bands on the
M802/AT140/backstay. Damned thing makes more noise than an electric
drill and VERY wideband!

Maybe you ought to rat them out to the FCC. Shouldn't it be Class B, or
about as noisy as a PC?

del cecchi



Wayne.B January 29th 04 03:43 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:29:17 GMT, "Doug"
wrote:
Have you checked for RF noise on an HF receiver? I would hate to see a bunch
of these running in a marine if they are noisy as I suspect they be.
73
Doug K7ABX

==========================================

Most of the marine inverters spray around enough HF noise that one
more source will probably never be noticed.


Floyd in Tampa January 29th 04 04:40 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
One problem with that charger, cool as the switching technology is, the
warning that you can't charge a dead battery with it, which means that you
still need another charger to get it up to the minimum required level for
this charger to start working.



Larry W4CSC January 29th 04 01:00 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:13:15 -0600, "del cecchi"
wrote:

Maybe you ought to rat them out to the FCC. Shouldn't it be Class B, or
about as noisy as a PC?

del cecchi

Not made for use in the home, where the FCC really cares, I doubt it
comes under Class B.
Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Larry W4CSC January 29th 04 01:02 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 04:40:33 GMT, "Floyd in Tampa"
wrote:

One problem with that charger, cool as the switching technology is, the
warning that you can't charge a dead battery with it, which means that you
still need another charger to get it up to the minimum required level for
this charger to start working.


You don't run them down until their voltage is less than 5 volts, do
you?!! Normal discharge is 50% of capacity.....unless you can afford
the monthly replacement costs, I suppose.


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Del Cecchi January 29th 04 03:09 PM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:13:15 -0600, "del cecchi"
wrote:

Maybe you ought to rat them out to the FCC. Shouldn't it be Class B, or
about as noisy as a PC?

del cecchi

Not made for use in the home, where the FCC really cares, I doubt it
comes under Class B.
Larry W4CSC

At the least it has to be class A. And I bet pleasure boats would be
construed as class B.

del cecchi



Larry W4CSC January 30th 04 12:25 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:09:44 -0600, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:

At the least it has to be class A. And I bet pleasure boats would be
construed as class B.

del cecchi

If so, Adler-Barbour solid state fridge will never pass. Just listen
to the pulses on Marine VHF Channel 16....dammit....


Larry W4CSC

Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!

Harry Krause January 30th 04 03:32 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
Larry W4CSC wrote:


Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!


An Ugly American personified...just the kind of low-brain output that
enrages those in less developed nations and incites them to attack us.

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NOYB January 30th 04 03:47 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:


Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!


An Ugly American personified...just the kind of low-brain output that
enrages those in less developed nations and incites them to attack us.


LOL. Larry's comment is definitely the funniest one I've read today.
However, I didn't realize how funny it was until I saw that Harry took it
seriously.




Harry Krause January 30th 04 04:05 AM

Bought cool new digital charger....$89? WalMart?!!
 
NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:


Is it just me or did the US and UK just capture 1/3
of the world's sweetest oil supply? What idiot wants to
GIVE IT BACK?!!


An Ugly American personified...just the kind of low-brain output that
enrages those in less developed nations and incites them to attack us.


LOL. Larry's comment is definitely the funniest one I've read today.
However, I didn't realize how funny it was until I saw that Harry took it
seriously.



Larry is serious. You don't know Larry very well. He's five beers short
of a six pack.

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