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Firelock wrote:

On Nov 1, 4:28=A0pm, Douglas Berry
wrote:
On =A0Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:49:37 -0500 Jangchub
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism

Wait, Palin went to five colleges to get her degree in what, who
knows.

Jounalism. She wanted to be a sports reporter and ended up a weather
girl.

I think if you look again, you'll see she's "ended up" as Governor
of Alaska, candidate for VP, and possibly future President of
the United States.

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I now look at the weather girls on local tv differently. My sweetie is
getting tired of my exclaming, "She could be president!" every time
there's a sweet young thang parading back and forth in front of a weather
screen pretending she's a meteorologist.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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So a part-timer who has written nothing of note in his field and is not on
the tenure track is "of the highest academic rank?" I don't think so.

Selective reading will get you every time.

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"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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Seems pretty obvious from the language you quoted that what the U of C Law
School does is call their part time instructors "Professor" once the
instructor gets elected to public office. Why in the world would they do
that? Duh...

My Lincoln reference seems quite apposite.

Seems pretty obvious to me that their definition of "Professor" is entirely
in keeping with the dictionary:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professor

Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

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"Lord Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
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Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

In America, you only need to be a bandleader.
http://planetpooks.files.wordpress.c...musicman_l.jpg

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On 2008-11-03 11:36:43 -0500, Lord Nigel Molesworth
said:

In article ,
"KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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Seems pretty obvious from the language you quoted that what the U of C
Law School does is call their part time instructors "Professor" once
the instructor gets elected to public office. Why in the world would
they do that? Duh...

My Lincoln reference seems quite apposite.

Seems pretty obvious to me that their definition of "Professor" is
entirely in keeping with the dictionary:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professor

Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have
a PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

Not necessarily. PhD is of course desired by the colleges/universities
for bragging rights, but is by no means required.

"Professor" merely is another name for college teacher, and there is no
regulation of the term but the politics of the school. Teachers have
requirements mandated by the local or state governments.

And there's a sub-class of Professor: Adjunct professor. No
qualifications required other than a willingness to work for less than
minimum wage. Friend of mine never went to college, worked as an
electrician for most of his career. Towards the end, wrangled a
political appointment as a building inspector which he parlayed into a
"Professorship" at the local college.

That said, some of the better profs I've had over the years were
part-timers who made the bulk of their money out in the real world,
where they had to demonstrate competence.

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Dave" wrote in message
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Seems pretty obvious from the language you quoted that what the U of C
Law
School does is call their part time instructors "Professor" once the
instructor gets elected to public office. Why in the world would they do
that? Duh...

My Lincoln reference seems quite apposite.

Seems pretty obvious to me that their definition of "Professor" is
entirely in keeping with the dictionary:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professor



Seems pretty obvious to me that Dave has to work really hard as an apologist
for the right-wingnut community. LOL

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Lord Nigel Molesworth" wrote in message
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Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

In America, you only need to be a bandleader.
http://planetpooks.files.wordpress.c...musicman_l.jpg



Now that's funny!

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:36:43 -0600, Lord Nigel Molesworth
said:

Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

That is, of course, the meaning generally understood in the U.S. as well.

But what can you expect from people who call a handout to people who pay
no
income taxes a "refundable income tax credit?" Astute readers of Orwell.


No it isn't, even though you received the quote from the UofC.

But, what can you expect from people who can't seem to get that the
fundamentals of the economy are *not* strong.

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:36:43 -0600, Lord Nigel Molesworth
said:

Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.

That is, of course, the meaning generally understood in the U.S. as well.

But what can you expect from people who call a handout to people who pay no
income taxes a "refundable income tax credit?" Astute readers of Orwell.


I wonder what the NY Bar Association would think of one of their members
casting such slurs upon not only a fellow member of the Bar, but also a
well respected educational institution vested with the power to confer
law degrees?

Cheers
Martin

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:32:59 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

the right-wingnut community.

Thinking people don't do "communities," Jon. That's one of those words
beloved by the mush-for-brains crew.


So, you're now claiming that you don't live in a community? Where do you -
Mars?

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On Nov 3, 8:28*am, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:10:40 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said:

"Dave" wrote in message
.. .
Seems pretty obvious from the language you quoted that what the U of C Law
School does is call their part time instructors "Professor" once the
instructor gets elected to public office. Why in the world would they do
that? Duh...

My Lincoln reference seems quite apposite.

Seems pretty obvious to me that their definition of "Professor" is entirely
in keeping with the dictionary:

So a part-timer who has written nothing of note in his field and is not on
the tenure track is "of the highest academic rank?" I don't think so.

did you not read the statement? he was a full professor rank but was
not on the career track. almost every collage has full professors
doing the same. most field researchers IMU hold the same position
because field research takes time that a full professorship cannot
allow.
this little bit just shows that instead of one those who cant do teach
professors. Obama was one of those i am doing and teaching folks.
yall seem to think the damn world only works when you are looking at
it. WTF do you expect the guy to do? he has not failed a company, he
has tought and done law, he has been a senitor, he has a voteing
record you can look up, he has not crashed several air craft, so what
he was not military bush was not either, mccain was a ****ing flyboy
that had some bad luck he crashed and was captured one of the very
damn few, the thing that saved his chicken neck was that he was a
zero. those prision camps didnt have a whole lot of grunts and noncoms
they where chock full of zeros,
he couldnt spill any secrets because he didnt have any to spill he was
not in command of any men, his one actual command was a freeking
training squadren the he didnt actually have to run at all.

frankly nether of these bozos is qualified to run a toy train. the
folks who are qualified wont go within ten miles of this office.

The only guy who is qualified to run a country is Cheny and he does it
in the same draconian manner he ran his company, bush is the talking
head. Palin is trying for cheny's position and she flat can't manage
her brain let alone a country.

the only choice you have at this point, is who will do the least
damage?
Mccain or obama, neither is the best choice, just the choices we
have.
so you sailors think of it this way: if you are in a storm and your
halyard is jammed into the top block so tight that your only option is
for someone to go aloft and free it. who you gonna send up to die? who
has the chance of fixing the problem before everyone dies and the ship
is lost? neither of these two crew you took along has actually ever
been in a gale but one has simply lived longer than the other and so
has more experiance by virtue of time.

IMO this country is currently in a storm with all he skirts in the
gale. the whole mess has hoplessly jammed at the mast head and someone
has to go up.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:37:20 -0500, Martin Baxter said:

I wonder what the NY Bar Association would think of one of their members
casting such slurs upon not only a fellow member of the Bar, but also a
well respected educational institution vested with the power to confer
law degrees?

Why don't you ask them Marty? That's a conversation I'd certainly
welcome--trying to muzzle one of their member's political speech? I don't
think so.

Like this...

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/...5951225498915/

So far at least, the "fairness doctrine" hasn't been applied to peoples'
stating their personal views publicly, even views with which the denizens
of
the Upper West Side might differ. Of course the answer might change if the
Dems succeed in muzzling their opposition as they currently propose.

Like this...

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/...5951225498915/

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:15:34 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

So, you're now claiming

^
|
|

You're so transparent, Jon. That's a sure-fire pointer to a straw man.
Better try a little variety.


So, this quote from you: "Thinking people don't do "communities," ...

means that you're not a thinking person? I beg to differ!

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:37:20 -0500, Martin Baxter said:

I wonder what the NY Bar Association would think of one of their members
casting such slurs upon not only a fellow member of the Bar, but also a
well respected educational institution vested with the power to confer
law degrees?

Why don't you ask them Marty? That's a conversation I'd certainly
welcome--trying to muzzle one of their member's political speech? I don't
think so.

So far at least, the "fairness doctrine" hasn't been applied to peoples'
stating their personal views publicly, even views with which the denizens of
the Upper West Side might differ. Of course the answer might change if the
Dems succeed in muzzling their opposition as they currently propose.



Ah I see, "No honour among thieves...." Besides, you answered a
question I didn't ask,,, but then you're very good at that.

Cheers
Martin

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:42:00 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

Like this...

Anyone who has been following the news would, of course, realize that the
Dems have been having a wet dream over the prospect of being able to shut
down talk radio, which for some reason doesn't seem to favor their views.

Holy Crap! And here I was believing you, that the media was already
controlled by the libs! I can't tell you how glad I am that you are
here to keep us on the straight and narrow....oh wait a sec,,, wasn't it
you that said the media was controlled by the liberals.....



Since liberal talk radio has been a complete non-starter,

Probably because they don't need to listen to severely biased reporting,
from either side..

the Dems'
calculation is that if they can re-impose the "fairness doctrine" on all
media, radio will have to carry enough money-losing shows having a liberal
agenda so that they will decide to drop talk shows entirely, leaving
standing only their MSM friends.

You been talking to Larry Dave?


Cheers
Martin

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:05:43 -0500, Marty said:

You been talking to Larry Dave?

So I take it you think efforts to re-impose the "fairness doctrine" stem
from entirely altruistic motives without regard to political advantage?

So I take it you agree with everything else I wrote?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:42:00 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Like this...

Anyone who has been following the news would, of course, realize that the
Dems have been having a wet dream over the prospect of being able to shut
down talk radio, which for some reason doesn't seem to favor their views.

Since liberal talk radio has been a complete non-starter, the Dems'
calculation is that if they can re-impose the "fairness doctrine" on all
media, radio will have to carry enough money-losing shows having a liberal
agenda so that they will decide to drop talk shows entirely, leaving
standing only their MSM friends.


?? What does Palin speaking have to do with liberal talk radio? Are you
losing it?

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

?? What does Palin speaking have to do with liberal talk radio? Are you
losing it?

It has nothing whatever to do with the conversation about the Dems' having
wet dreams over the prospect of muzzling their opponents through use of the
so-called "fairness doctrine." I can't understand why you tried to drag her
into that conversation.


Golly, but you guys live in a wonderful country. On the one hand you
have those pinko libs trying to suppress every rednecks God given right
to spew whatever malicious insinuations and outright lies on the public
airwaves; on the other you have the Reps. trying to deny the vote to
minorities, (after all the po' are too stupid to judge who best to run
the country) and fighting like hell smear whoever they feel like,,, it's
all about Constitutional Rights!

Cheers
Martin

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On Nov 3, 4:12*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

?? What does Palin speaking have to do with liberal talk radio? Are you
losing it?

It has nothing whatever to do with the conversation about the Dems' having
wet dreams over the prospect of muzzling their opponents through use of the
so-called "fairness doctrine." I can't understand why you tried to drag her
into that conversation.

Really????? muzzeling every one with a fairness doctorine.
funny the most coherant site i found has both sides of the issue.
maybe you ought to actually read the docterine.
http://www.answers.com/topic/fairness-doctrine

only abuse i can see is the way kennidy used it and that was costly to
him as well as opponants of his.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

?? What does Palin speaking have to do with liberal talk radio? Are you
losing it?

It has nothing whatever to do with the conversation about the Dems' having
wet dreams over the prospect of muzzling their opponents through use of
the
so-called "fairness doctrine." I can't understand why you tried to drag
her
into that conversation.


Dave, you must be losing it. I posted a url to Palin's claim that the media
was threatening her free speech. Sheesh.

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:36:59 -0500, Marty said:

Golly, but you guys live in a wonderful country. On the one hand you
have those pinko libs trying to suppress every rednecks God given right
to spew whatever malicious insinuations and outright lies on the public
airwaves; on the other you have the Reps. trying to deny the vote to
minorities, (after all the po' are too stupid to judge who best to run
the country) and fighting like hell smear whoever they feel like,,, it's
all about Constitutional Rights!

I always appreciate your fair and balanced view of our country, Marty. Pinko
libs, rednecks....nothing like a little name calling to further rational
discussion.g

Just trying to keep within the parameters delineated by yourself for
this kind of discussion,,;-O

(Jeeze, that sounds like something H. Cosell would say)

BTW, I'm not that up on Canadian constitutional doctrine.


That's alright Dave, it's alway pleasant when one finds an American who
can at least find Canada on a map, but not really expected.

Do you follow the
English notion that a binding written constitution is a contradiction in
terms because the power of the Queen in Parliament assembled is inherently
not subject to limitation?

Apparently you're not that up on British Jurisprudence either. But you
are close....



FYI, Canada has a written constitution, if you really want to know more,
check out the British Canada Act of 1982

Cheers
Martin

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:01:11 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:


"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

?? What does Palin speaking have to do with liberal talk radio? Are you
losing it?

It has nothing whatever to do with the conversation about the Dems'
having
wet dreams over the prospect of muzzling their opponents through use of
the
so-called "fairness doctrine." I can't understand why you tried to drag
her
into that conversation.


Dave, you must be losing it. I posted a url to Palin's claim that the
media
was threatening her free speech. Sheesh.

I understand that completely. I commented that the Dems are having wet
dreams over the prospect of having the guvmint muzzle their opponents on
talk radio via the fairness doctrine, and in (purported) response to my
comment you posted a link having nothing whatever to do with that topic
but
dealing instead with Palin's complaining that the MSM were criticizing her
for calling attention to Obama's buddies.

Oh, I've got it. You were trying to argue that Palin's criticism of the
MSM
was "bad behavior," and therefore justifies the Dems' efforts to muzzle
their opponents on talk radio.


I'm not sure what you've got. Why don't you tell us how you know what Dems
believe. Did you get that from Fox News?
http://www.freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=43

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:36:43 -0600, Lord Nigel Molesworth
wrote:

Hmm.. I didn't know that there are different criteria for that
appellation depending on where you are, viz UK it is necessary to have a
PhD and tenure to have the title 'Professor'.


Hmmm...In the UK system, it is not enough to have a PhD and tenure
to be appointed a professor.
On the other hand, there ARE folks with UK professorships without a
PhD.

How 'bout that!
:-)

Brian W

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On Nov 3, 5:30*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:55:10 -0800 (PST), Two meter troll
said:

Really????? muzzeling every one with a fairness doctorine.
funny the most coherant site i found has both sides of the issue.
maybe you ought to actually read the docterine.
http://www.answers.com/topic/fairness-doctrine

only abuse i can see is the way kennidy used it

Not a bad discussion.

I actually wrote a paper on the topic several years before Red Lion reached
the USSC, concluding that application of the doctrine to television would
probably be unconstitutional once the number of channels increased
sufficiently via cable. That change of course occurred.

The argument that there hasn't been much abuse since Kennedy's carries
little weight since (i) the doctrine has been gone since 1987, and (ii) the
market is very different today. Kennedy's abuse does, however, illustrate
just why bringing back the doctrine would be a bad idea. Too much
opportunity to silence anyone expressing anything but the "official" view of
the world.

thats funny says 2000 for several sections IIRC. and uh kennedy died
well before 1987. so your entire argument was just made moot. i belive
there where one or two democrat and republican heads of state since
his death and 1987.

i took the liberty of looking up the most vehiment opposition to the
reinstatment of this doctrin. funny enough most of them are in the
pocket of that little ausse dweeb communications maven Murdoch.
perhaps he could stay out of our politics and go back to the island he
came from where they hate him.

god if there ever was someone who needs his brains beaten out of his
head its him. why do the cool guys die in airplane crashes and
jerkoffs like this guy live.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:49:45 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'm not sure what you've got. Why don't you tell us how you know what Dems
believe. Did you get that from Fox News?

Hell no. All one has to do is read any source covering the antics of
Pelosi,
Reid and crew in relation to the fairness doctrine, and then apply a small
amount of thought to the facts. Why, even you could figure it out if you
put
your mind to it


Ahh... I don't think Rush is part of the left-wing mainstream media.

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On 2008-11-03 17:33:02 -0500, Dave said:

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:42:00 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

Like this...

Anyone who has been following the news would, of course, realize that the
Dems have been having a wet dream over the prospect of being able to shut
down talk radio, which for some reason doesn't seem to favor their views.

Since liberal talk radio has been a complete non-starter, the Dems'
calculation is that if they can re-impose the "fairness doctrine" on all
media, radio will have to carry enough money-losing shows having a liberal
agenda so that they will decide to drop talk shows entirely, leaving
standing only their MSM friends.

This is even more of a side-track from the list's charter....

It's so amazing that not one liberal talk show has grown legs like the
conservative ones. I hear a few on NPR, but they are so unentertaining,
so serious, so full of themselves.

Rush at least is entertaining, good enough that his opponents may form
a significant portion of his audience, and his show survives quite
nicely without relying on tax-free donations and government hand-outs.

If he were only *against* something (which seems the Liberals' primary
thrust), his show would have died when a Republican congress was
elected, when Bush 1 was elected, when he went into rehab, when ...
many things happened. He's still the liberals' nightmare.

I don't even agree with him much of the time, but I have to point out
those things.

Liberals, for some reason, don't seem to consider that others' opinions
could possibly be correct.

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On 2008-11-03 20:52:14 -0500, Two meter troll said:

i took the liberty of looking up the most vehiment opposition to the
reinstatment of this doctrin.

Troll...

Could you please spend a bit more time on your posts, perhaps spell-check them?

I suspect there may be a nugget of truth in some of your posts, but I
can't read very far before getting annoyed by your lack of care for
what can be a lyrical language.

At least engage spell-check and learn where the caps key is.

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On 2008-11-03 21:52:26 -0500, "Capt. JG" said:

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:49:45 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'm not sure what you've got. Why don't you tell us how you know what
Dems believe. Did you get that from Fox News?

Hell no. All one has to do is read any source covering the antics of
Pelosi, Reid and crew in relation to the fairness doctrine, and then
apply a small amount of thought to the facts. Why, even you could
figure it out if you put your mind to it

Ahh... I don't think Rush is part of the left-wing mainstream media.

Oh, that's hardly true. Mainstream media is still having conniptions
due to his success.

Whether or not that defines them as left-wing is a matter of opinion.

Personally, I see both "wings" as flip sides of a very small coin, only
minor differences in a trivial pool of subjects.

There's a far wider universe of issues out there than that little bit
of so-called reality.

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On Nov 3, 6:17*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:52:14 -0800 (PST), Two meter troll
said:

thats funny says 2000 for several sections IIRC.

You need to read more carefully. Maybe take notes.

and uh kennedy died
well before 1987. so your entire argument was just made moot. i belive
there where one or two democrat and republican heads of state since
his death and 1987.

Not at all. To show the potential for abuse it is not necessary to show that
every President was guilty of the same abuse as Kennedy.

i took the liberty of looking up the most vehiment opposition to the
reinstatment of this doctrin. funny enough most of them are in the
pocket of that little ausse *dweeb communications maven Murdoch.
perhaps he could stay out of our politics and go back to the island he
came from where they hate him.

I take it you have a problem with people whose political views differ from
your own. Deal with it.

Nope Dave i have a problem with little pricks that should have been
drowned at birth. No one has a right to dictate how others vote and Mr
Murdoch has over stepped that bound.

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In article Xns9B49D8A4C3C2Enoonehomecom@
74.209.131.13, Larry said...

A little History is in order....

http://www.givemeliberty.org/feature...otratified.htm

That's your problem: you know only "a little" history.

Heed Pope's warning about taking only sips from the
spring of knowledge, and perhaps you will stop
gibbering like a madman.


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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2008-11-03 21:52:26 -0500, "Capt. JG" said:

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:49:45 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I'm not sure what you've got. Why don't you tell us how you know what
Dems believe. Did you get that from Fox News?

Hell no. All one has to do is read any source covering the antics of
Pelosi, Reid and crew in relation to the fairness doctrine, and then
apply a small amount of thought to the facts. Why, even you could figure
it out if you put your mind to it

Ahh... I don't think Rush is part of the left-wing mainstream media.

Oh, that's hardly true. Mainstream media is still having conniptions due
to his success.

Whether or not that defines them as left-wing is a matter of opinion.

Personally, I see both "wings" as flip sides of a very small coin, only
minor differences in a trivial pool of subjects.

There's a far wider universe of issues out there than that little bit of
so-called reality.


Except that Dave continually uses the term left-wing media to assert that
the media is skewed in favor of the left. He conveniently leaves out Fox,
Rush, and others, and seems happy to point out how Air America failed. I
find nothing whatever enjoyable about listening or watching vitriol from
either side. Well, I do like listening to Olbermann. LOL

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2008-11-03 17:33:02 -0500, Dave said:

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:42:00 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Like this...

Anyone who has been following the news would, of course, realize that the
Dems have been having a wet dream over the prospect of being able to shut
down talk radio, which for some reason doesn't seem to favor their views.

Since liberal talk radio has been a complete non-starter, the Dems'
calculation is that if they can re-impose the "fairness doctrine" on all
media, radio will have to carry enough money-losing shows having a
liberal
agenda so that they will decide to drop talk shows entirely, leaving
standing only their MSM friends.

This is even more of a side-track from the list's charter....

It's so amazing that not one liberal talk show has grown legs like the
conservative ones. I hear a few on NPR, but they are so unentertaining, so
serious, so full of themselves.

Perhaps because true liberals aren't really interested in destruction
politics.


Rush at least is entertaining, good enough that his opponents may form a
significant portion of his audience, and his show survives quite nicely
without relying on tax-free donations and government hand-outs.

Don't know about his audience. I do know from my small amount of listening
is that he's a racist assh*le, with very little actual knowledge.

If he were only *against* something (which seems the Liberals' primary
thrust), his show would have died when a Republican congress was elected,
when Bush 1 was elected, when he went into rehab, when ... many things
happened. He's still the liberals' nightmare.

No. He's disgusting. Anyone who listens to him regularly, who swallows his
garbage can't really claim to be thinking.

I don't even agree with him much of the time, but I have to point out
those things.

Do tell. Even a maniac can say "right" things from time to time.

Liberals, for some reason, don't seem to consider that others' opinions
could possibly be correct.

?? An opinion is an opinion. Take it or leave it. I certainly don't speak
for all liberals, but the line for me is when there's hate-mongering and
lying.

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"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
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On 2 Nov 2008 18:46:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:08:36 -0500, Brian Whatcott
said:

idjits who
don't know that Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law at Chicago
(fer Criss sake!)

...
Obama was never a professor. He was an instructor, but he never wrote
anything of significance....

Google 'Obama professorial posts'. Not all his students raved
about Prof Obama. Perhaps you are unsure of the difference between
an instructor (often a graduate student in the American system), and a
"lecturer", the label for a professor, as titled in e.g the British
system. States with Vo-techs often have academics titled
professor, let alone first tier professional schools.

Brian W

Why Google, just go to the University of Chicago for info:

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

He was a senior lecturer and was invited to a tenure track leading to
professor. U of C says so.

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Dave,

Note in the U of C article "Senior Lecturer" is capitalized and "professor"
with regard to Obama or the position isn't.

"Professors" have tenure, not all "professors" do.

One is a title, the other is a noun.

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But the wording of the Amendment was different in several of the states.


"DoctorD" wrote in message
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According to the United States Government Printing Office, the
following states ratified the amendment:

Alabama (August 10, 1909)
Kentucky (February 8, 1910)
South Carolina (February 19, 1910)
Illinois (March 1, 1910)
Mississippi (March 7, 1910)
Oklahoma (March 10, 1910)
Maryland (April 8, 1910)
Georgia (August 3, 1910)
Texas (August 16, 1910)
Ohio (January 19, 1911)
Idaho (January 20, 1911)
Oregon (January 23, 1911)
Washington (January 26, 1911)
Montana (January 27, 1911)
Indiana (January 30, 1911)
California (January 31, 1911)
Nevada (January 31, 1911)
South Dakota (February 1, 1911)
Nebraska (February 9, 1911)
North Carolina (February 11, 1911)
Colorado (February 15, 1911)
North Dakota (February 17, 1911)
Michigan (February 23, 1911)
Iowa (February 24, 1911)
Kansas (March 2, 1911)
Missouri (March 16, 1911)
Maine (March 31, 1911)
Tennessee (April 7, 1911)
Arkansas (April 22, 1911), after having previously rejected the
amendment
Wisconsin (May 16, 1911)
New York (July 12, 1911)
Arizona (April 3, 1912)
Minnesota (June 11, 1912)
Louisiana (June 28, 1912)
West Virginia (January 31, 1913)
New Mexico (February 3, 1913)
Ratification (by the requisite thirty-six states) was completed on
February 3, 1913 with the ratification by New Mexico. The amendment
was subsequently ratified by the following states, bringing the total
number of ratifying states to forty-two of the forty-eight then
existing:

37. Delaware (February 3, 1913)
38. Wyoming (February 3, 1913)
39. New Jersey (February 4, 1913)
40. Vermont (February 19, 1913)
41. Massachusetts (March 4, 1913)
42. New Hampshire (March 7, 1913), after rejecting the amendment on
March 2, 1911
The following states rejected the amendment without ever subsequently
ratifying it:

Connecticut
Florida (rejected the amendment after it had already been ratified by
three-fourths of the states)
Rhode Island
Utah
The following states never took up the proposed amendment:

Pennsylvania
Virginia

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"Charles Momsen" wrote in news:2ammq7.a8o.17.1
@news.alt.net:

According to the United States Government Printing Office, the
following states ratified the amendment:


See, there's the little problem. The states that DID ratify the amendment
ratified a CHANGED amendment, not the original one the banker class wrote.

But, when they got back to Washington, it was "certified" that they
ratified the original document, which simply ISN'T, and never was, true.

As the ratification was fraudulent, so was the Amendment.