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"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in news:1k2vt5-92i2.ln1
@blaze.blaze.net: Except there is. Hint: try to sneak a lot of K-Y into jail with you, you'll need it... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ Nine out of ten priests who have tried Camels, prefer young boys. And not one shred of evidence in a post made by a 12-year-old mind.... QUOTE THE LAW! They are all listed on: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ Hundreds of thousands of Americans DON'T pay income taxes, now, many former IRS employees. The movie introduces you to a few of their worst offenders. |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. I will, however, vote for the person that I believe will be the better of the two (note that this isn't a "lesser of two evils" argument): Because he has no experience, Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: An incumbent president running for a second term. has never authored and passed legislation Um, what? Would you like a list of legislation authored and passed by Obama? and will turn to entrenched democrat political machinery (of the despicable Chicago kind) for all his work? Do you have a citation for that wild claim? That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your myopia. And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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Paul E. Lehmann wrote:
Douglas Berry wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:49:37 -0500 Jangchub carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism Wait, Palin went to five colleges to get her degree in what, who knows. Jounalism. She wanted to be a sports reporter and ended up a weather girl. I wonder which course taught her that man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time :-) Flintstones 101. -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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m: They're not voting for Obama for any particular reason. They're voting AGAINST McCain. I can't buy that because Israel runs the Republican party. They are the one who got us into Iraq to do their bidding for them in the first place. They are the ones who are trying to get us to attack Iran, which after living in the country and working for Iran's Air Force under the CIA's Shah, I find quite funny. The people in the most danger of the Iran nuclear program are the poor *******s around the nuke plant who are all going to die WHEN, not if, the plant EXPLODES from gross incompetence. What we SHOULD be terrified of is Mossad's Nuclear Program we're not supposed to even think about, much less actually know anything about. Doesn't anyone remember is Israelis dancing for joy next to a white van watching WTC burn and collapse on 9/11?! Bush and the Republicans gave Israel BILLIONS during their reigns. Would you shoot off your goose laying the golden eggs your agents-in-government have provided? |
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Larry,
Article I sec.8 gives Congress the power to levy taxes. Taxes on income have been levied several times in US history. The 16th Amendment to the Constitution passed in 1913 reaffirms Congress's right to collect income taxes. The US Tariff Act of 1913 then levied an income tax. The actual minutia is the IRS codes. Dave M. |
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Larry wrote:
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : The progressive tax system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it. I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that says I have to pay Income Tax on my wages? Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code. Go ahead, we'll wait.............(sound of crickets chirping) Sorry, it took a little bit of time to pull up the relevant bits. * United States Constitution -- Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 * 26 U.S.C. There is NO LAW that requires you to pay INCOME TAX, an UNAPPORTIONED, Unconstitutional tax on labor. ....what?! -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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On Nov 1, 4:21*pm, Larry wrote:
clouddreamer wrote innews:VfKdne1zy9S0SpHUnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@supernews. com: They're not voting for Obama for any particular reason. They're voting AGAINST McCain. I can't buy that because Israel runs the Republican party. *They are the one who got us into Iraq to do their bidding for them in the first place. * They are the ones who are trying to get us to attack Iran, which after living in the country and working for Iran's Air Force under the CIA's Shah, I find quite funny. *The people in the most danger of the Iran nuclear program are the poor *******s around the nuke plant who are all going to die WHEN, not if, the plant EXPLODES from gross incompetence. What we SHOULD be terrified of is Mossad's Nuclear Program we're not supposed to even think about, much less actually know anything about. * Doesn't anyone remember is Israelis dancing for joy next to a white van watching WTC burn and collapse on 9/11?! Bush and the Republicans gave Israel BILLIONS during their reigns. *Would you shoot off your goose laying the golden eggs your agents-in-government have provided? try this Larry. they no longer have controll of the republican party, the fundimental christians do. you now at this moment have a bible fundimental that thinks the rapture will come and he and his brethrin will be raised up to heaven and be rewarded for killing the unbelivers and abortionists at the button. And you are a heathen unbeliver. Id rather have the jews at least they wont kill the cash cow. |
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Says plenty. Just because you're too blinded by ideology to understand how running a HUGELY successful campaign makes one a leader doesn't mean he isn't. I don't recall saying anything about his leadership ability. I may be blinded by my progressive liberal ideology, but I stand by my statement that running a sucessful campaing and being president of the US have little to do with each other. They require different skills and different abilities. Apples and Oranges. |
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June,
I do not dispute your observations, but they are too superficial and incomplete. First there are no successful government supplied health systems....anywhere. They are all bankrupt and unaffordable. Secondly, you may shop at K Mart, but you would not do that for your health. The free health care these systems offer are less than adequate. The treatments offered are subject to cost and limited to only those approved by the government. Do you think it is OK to limit procedures based on age? It happens. Of course there should be universal health care, but it must be based on affordability, efficiency and offered quality. The plans offered are not even close. They are in fact, pie in the sky. Change is great. We certainly need it, but only if it adds value. Please ask yourself why we pay such a high rate of tax. Are you aware of the percentage of our taxes that are used just for the maintenance of our federal debt? How about state, county or city debt? This debt has been created by selfish, irresponsible lawmakers we voted in. Look at your own debt. Consider the cost of interest you are paying for your mortgage, your car and your credit cards. What percentage of your income do you pay for debt maintenance? Both the American Government and the American population have been and still is, living beyond their means. Please address that problem. Before you criticize the war efforts and their cost, please realize the cost of losing our financial stability by attacks on our financial system or our currency. Our national strength and in fact, our entire way of life is at stake. You cannot see these problems because our media is restricting this critical information by exclusion. You live in the States and are oblivious to this. I live in Europe at the moment and in Asia before this. I get to see the difference, you don't. Please notice that I have not asked you to vote either way, that is your business. Neither candidate can fix this. It may not be fixable. This problem will only get worse with time. Each one of us must change the way we do business and force common sense onto our leadership by voting for common sense and fiscal responsibility, not free lunch. This is not a time to let emotion override logic. Steve |
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"David L. Martel" wrote in
: Article I sec.8 gives Congress the power to levy taxes. Taxes on income have been levied several times in US history. The 16th Amendment to the Constitution passed in 1913 reaffirms Congress's right to collect income taxes. The US Tariff Act of 1913 then levied an income tax. The actual minutia is the IRS codes. Dave M. The 16th Amendment was never ratified, rendering it moot. Amendments must be ratified, according to the constitution, protecting states rights to NOT become slaves of the central government. The Supreme Court also pointed out that the 16th Amendment did NOT grant the government any NEW taxes, such as the Income Tax on INDIVIDUAL Americans. It IS legal to tax income from GAINS of corporations. That's not in question. What IS and has been since 1913 in question is there is no law that gives the government the power to make UNAPPORTIONED taxes on PERSONAL income....and never has been. The IRS code is NOT US law. The IRS code is REGULATION by BUREAUCRATS who were told they had this power to unapportioned taxes on individuals. Because of a lack of enabling legislation, IRS code is null and void. Bureaucrats cannot and SHOULD NOT have any power to enable anything outside US CODE. If they can...we're DOOMED! If any of you have not seen Aaron Russo's great movie about income tax, the IRS and other issues, it's MOST enlightening. NOONE would discuss with him, especially on camera, anything about the enabling law of the IRS and its taxes.....good evidence, itself, that there is no law....or they could simply hand it to him in a little booklet IRS is SO good at producing by the ton! The movie has long lists of case law about the 16th Amendment to refresh America's shortness of memory. The voice vote during Christmas recess that enabled the Federal Reserve Private Bank Corporation to rob the nation of its money supply and hand control over to the Jekyll Island Bank Billionaires never had a quorum vote, either. It was a great case of trickery by the bankers and their cronies in Congress. |
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Larry wrote:
"David L. Martel" wrote in : Article I sec.8 gives Congress the power to levy taxes. Taxes on income have been levied several times in US history. The 16th Amendment to the Constitution passed in 1913 reaffirms Congress's right to collect income taxes. The US Tariff Act of 1913 then levied an income tax. The actual minutia is the IRS codes. Dave M. The 16th Amendment was never ratified, rendering it moot. Amendments must be ratified, according to the constitution, protecting states rights to NOT become slaves of the central government. Um. The 16th Amendment WAS ratified. In 1913. Which you mention below. The Supreme Court also pointed out that the 16th Amendment did NOT grant the government any NEW taxes, such as the Income Tax on INDIVIDUAL Americans. It IS legal to tax income from GAINS of corporations. That's not in question. What IS and has been since 1913 in question is there is no law that gives the government the power to make UNAPPORTIONED taxes on PERSONAL income....and never has been. The IRS code is NOT US law. Err, yes. Yes it is. It is part of the United States Code. The IRS code is REGULATION by BUREAUCRATS who were told they had this power to unapportioned taxes on individuals. Because of a lack of enabling legislation, IRS code is null and void. Bureaucrats cannot and SHOULD NOT have any power to enable anything outside US CODE. If they can...we're DOOMED! ......Outside US Code? What the ****? -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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Larry wrote:
DanielSan wrote in news:poOdne9Zw- : * United States Constitution -- Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 * 26 U.S.C. There is NO LAW that requires you to pay INCOME TAX, an UNAPPORTIONED, Unconstitutional tax on labor. ...what?! If you'll notice, this is about APPORTIONED TAXES. UNapportioned taxes are against the Constitution. The Federal Income Tax is the worst of UNapportioned taxes and is unconstitutional, even if it were a law, which it is not. No, there had to be an ENABLING law, passed by the US Congress and signed by the PRESIDENT that enabled the IRS and its goons. There is NO SUCH LAW. And your evidence that the Federal Income Tax is unapportioned is...? And that such "unapportioned taxes" is unconstitutional is...? -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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June,
Your comments here are not incorrect, but they are irrelevant. It's not about the man. It is about policy, beliefs and the trust in the honesty he speaks. History has taught this lesson many times over. Steve "June" wrote in message ... You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this: What if things were switched around.....think about it. Would the country's collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit? Ponder the following: What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class as did John McCain? What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee? What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, which McCain did.? What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married, which McCain did.? What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization, instead of Cindy McCain? What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five and been chastised by his peers, as was McCain.? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.) What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker? What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter? What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes? What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem, including calling his wife a c**t in front of a group of reporters? What if Michelle Obama's family had made their millions from beer distribution? What if the Obamas had adopted a white child? What if Obama was 72 years old with 4 bouts of cancer behind him,who is periodically showing signs of confusion because of what some have said is the onset of dementia, and irresponsibly picked the least qualified VP choice and without even properly vetting her, as did McCain. You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference. Educational Background: Barack Obama: Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude Joseph Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. John McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899 Sarah Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester (left because she didn't like the weather) North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. June |
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On Nov 1, 4:51*pm, Larry wrote:
Two meter troll wrote in news:a9b7e418-d399-4919-98f6- : try this Larry. they no longer have controll of the republican party, the fundimental christians do. you now at this moment have a bible fundimental that thinks the rapture will come and he and his brethrin will be raised up to heaven and be rewarded for killing the unbelivers and abortionists at the button. And you are a heathen unbeliver. Id rather have the jews at least they wont kill the cash cow. It is a point, but the Christians don't have their own atomic bombs, which may limit their "power"..... I think they have ours. |
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:59:33 +0100, "Steve Lusardi"
wrote in alt.atheism: June, I do not dispute your observations, but they are too superficial and incomplete. First there are no successful government supplied health systems....anywhere. You are flat out wrong not only do they work throughout the world but they even work in the USA. Until the Bush Administration, intent on proving that government cannot work by destroying the institutions that did work, gutted the VA and military health systems, they were superior to most other hospitals in the United States. I have no idea if your claim came from ignorance or politically motivated dishonesty, though the rest of your post implies that dishonesty was at work. .... |
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Obama has had passing grades with LCV for the environment. Clean air, water
and such are concerns of many people for their grandchildren. McCain scored 0%. Obama was promoted as support for guy with connections to terrorist. It turns out McCain gave much larger some of money to same group. McCain voted with Bush 90% so he claims or brags. Obama is going to be president as well has an asset to the American people. I am friends with a guy, lets call him Bob the manufacturer. He has received many awards for creating jobs in USA and shipping products abroad. He also does not mind paying taxes. Obama will be a great president exiting the Bush politics which McCain has proven 90% of the time his true standing. BTW please explain what McCain is going to do to break from Bush. What specifically has McCain done positive for the environment our grand children will inherit? What has he done? What has Palin done good for the environment. Please list date and action. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... "David L. Martel" wrote in : Article I sec.8 gives Congress the power to levy taxes. Taxes on income have been levied several times in US history. The 16th Amendment to the Constitution passed in 1913 reaffirms Congress's right to collect income taxes. The US Tariff Act of 1913 then levied an income tax. The actual minutia is the IRS codes. Dave M. The 16th Amendment was never ratified, rendering it moot. Amendments must be ratified, according to the constitution.... For a fairly intelligent guy, you can sure go off the deep end sometimes. Your statement is completely wrong. http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut...ndmentxvi.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen...Constitut ion "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration. " -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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DanielSan wrote in
t: Um. The 16th Amendment WAS ratified. In 1913. Which you mention below. A little History is in order.... http://www.givemeliberty.org/feature...otratified.htm Bill Benson: http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/new/home.asp http://www.usconstitution.net/constamnotes.html http://political-resources.com/taxes...nt/default.htm http://moneycentral.msn.com/articles...95.asp?Printer http://jeffdickstein.com/ http://technorati.com/videos/youtube...%3D90N-fPI38HI http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_t...dment_ratified Dare I also mention the movie who has a chapter about this called: "Zeitgeist" The bank and tax frauds begin at 1 hour 14 minutes on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM but every human needs to watch the whole movie if he dares to shake his lifelong brainwashing to its core..... |
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My claim comes from 25 years of personal experience. I have lived and worked
all over Europe and I am telling you public health IS a failure everywhere. Your opinion is based on what? Perhaps books, magazines, TV or was it some idealist talking trash. Please note my previous comment about the American biased media. You are being sucked in. Come over here and experiece the failure yourself. Pay the 55% tax, experience the waiting lines or the denial of treatment or a drug, because it isn't approved. Watch your neighbor suffer for a year or more because there is no room in your designated hospital or die because the appropriate treatment is too expensive for a person of age. Public health is not the solution for universal health. This lesson has been learned. Steve "Free Lunch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:59:33 +0100, "Steve Lusardi" wrote in alt.atheism: June, I do not dispute your observations, but they are too superficial and incomplete. First there are no successful government supplied health systems....anywhere. You are flat out wrong not only do they work throughout the world but they even work in the USA. Until the Bush Administration, intent on proving that government cannot work by destroying the institutions that did work, gutted the VA and military health systems, they were superior to most other hospitals in the United States. I have no idea if your claim came from ignorance or politically motivated dishonesty, though the rest of your post implies that dishonesty was at work. ... |
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Larry wrote:
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in : The progressive tax system has been the law of the land for a LONG time now. Get over it. I'll bite. What's the Title/Code reference or name of the US LAW that says I have to pay Income Tax on my wages? Teddy Roosevelt was one of McCain's heros. He was responsible for enacting the progressive income tax. Here is a clue. Tell the IRS you refuse to pay your taxes and see what happens :-) It is is not the law of the land they can not and will not touch you. But - here is a further clue. They will put a lien on your house and all your property. What is ONE crime that is used to go after mafia king pins. Here is a further clue: Failure to declare and pay income tax. Good luck, chump. Cite SPECIFIC LAW, not the bogus IRS code. Go ahead, we'll wait.............(sound of crickets chirping) There is NO LAW that requires you to pay INCOME TAX, an UNAPPORTIONED, Unconstitutional tax on labor. You need to sit and watch Aaron Russo's "America - Freedom to Fascism" for free on YouTube....all 13 parts of it. |
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That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big
picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your myopia. Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out. The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates. Certainly not enough to even come close. Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything else. Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has no bearing on ability to govern. |
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Zoot wrote:
"June" wrote in message ... You show amazing ignorance. Maybe you ought to research Obamas education, his honors at Harvard (1st Afro American to be appointed head of Harvard Law Review), his opting to not take all the big money jobs offered and decided for a career in service. He even taught constitutional law for a few years. 12 years in the Illinois legislature and a couple years as a US senatory. The man has character and intelligence. Things lacking in his opponent. Think on this: His intelligence and education do NOT make him qualified to be president. Gosh, do you want another Bush? He and a LOT of his fellow Republicans take GREAT PRIDE in their IGNORANCE and poor college grades. Even with all his deferments, I don't think Dick Cheney even graduated from college, did he? And then there is John McCain who somehow BARELY escaped graduating at the very BOTTOM of his class at the Navy Academy. He was even worse as a pilot and did not take flying and learning his aircraft seriously. I guess that makes him VERY qualified in your book. Hardy har har har :-) Oh, I see now. Obama does not have "Executive Experience" -- like, ah well let me see, one George W. Bush. Let me see, how many companies did he run into the ground as CEO - and - he does have "presidential experience". Gosh, I guess you must think he is most qualified to continue in office. Maybe he should push for a constitutional amendment to give him a third term. Wait - the next best thing - a McCain presidency - Hardy har har har. Electing someone solely because they look good, sound good, smell good, Tell it to Ronald Reagan. and is one of the intelluctual elite is a recipe for disastor. Hitler looked good, sounded good, smelled good, and look what he did? |
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Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. |
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the VA and military health systems, they were superior
to most other hospitals in the United States. You've apparently never been in a VA hospital. |
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What has he done?
You mean Obama? Besides talk himself up? Nothing! |
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He even taught
constitutional law for a few years. Hmmm., those who can't do... teach. |
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I would think that convincing people to vote for you has next to nothing
to do with being qualified to be president. Exactly. Sadly the hangover these Obama lovers are going to wake up with would cause us all pain. |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed? To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. The United States is an enterprise? And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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DanielSan wrote:
Bill Kearney wrote: Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. O RLY? Want me to list all the legislation that he authored and passed? To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. The United States is an enterprise? Oops, missed this last comment: And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. So, this is a lie by Obama? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThoBMfcFRc I guess you could say that it's a computer animated forgery, though........... -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
That's a recipe for disaster. But you're too blind to see the big picture. The country, and likely the world, will be worse off for your myopia. Lincoln had no experience either. We all know how that turned out. The scale of gov't at the time hardly conflates. Certainly not enough to even come close. Frankly, the fact that Obama has run one of the most exceptionally successful campaigns in history while McCain's campaign has floundered miserably, says more about Obama's ability to lead the US than anything else. Lying to the public to get elected, sadly, has no bearing on ability to govern. Shhhhhhh, don't let McCain here you say that. THAT is his entire campaign strategy. |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. None. To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. No, he is a Bush with cancer and a slut puppy as his running mate. |
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On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience. Whatever the hell executive experience is. Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency. Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the smartest guy in the room as President. It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people. Tom |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
the VA and military health systems, they were superior to most other hospitals in the United States. You've apparently never been in a VA hospital. I go to one all the time. In many ways they are superior to private sector. Their medical records are one example. When I go to a private sector doctor they have to ask me my last test results and spend time flipping through pages of records. When I go to the VA, they push a button and out comes graphs of ALL my scheduled blood test results all the years I have been a patient there, weight, list of medications - everything. |
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On Nov 1, 8:47*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote:
He even taught constitutional law for a few years. Hmmm., those who can't do... teach. Being a law school professor is hardly something to be ashamed of, let alone discounted and ridiculed. He could've practiced law, but then you'd complain about him being a lawyer. No matter what he has accomplished in life, you will never give him credit for them. Are you a racist or just unwilling to acknowledge one achievements? Tom |
Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:16:00 -0700 (PDT), Tom wrote:
On Nov 1, 8:44*pm, "Bill Kearney" wrote: Err, neither candidate has presidential experience? *You know, the only one who can claim to have experience in being president is: No experience authoring legislation and getting it passed. *None. *To say nothing of never having managed even a SMALL enterprise. And we're better off with the Bush/McCain policies? McCain isn't Bush, lies by Obama otherwise. McCain has no executive experience. Obama has no executive experience. Whatever the hell executive experience is. Authoring legislation is hardly a qualifier for the Presidency. Given that both candidates lack executive experience, I want the smartest guy in the room as President. Bush had executive experience. And he still wasn't qualified. It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people. Tom |
Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
However, there's a difference in this election. The money that Obama is getting is NOT his own. It's from contributors. A lot of contributors. He is not using DNC money. Whereas, McCain is using a lot of money from the RNC. Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. Look again! A lot of Baracks money is in the form of prepaid credit cards which are untraceable! I wonder why. Gordon |
Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Tom wrote:
It's truly sad so many are afraid of smart people. Huzzah! I want intellectually elite people to run the country! Cheers Martin Tom |
Obama as president: The Commander and Thief
Gordon wrote:
However, there's a difference in this election. The money that Obama is getting is NOT his own. It's from contributors. A lot of contributors. He is not using DNC money. Whereas, McCain is using a lot of money from the RNC. Let me be clear: I do not trust either candidate. Look again! A lot of Baracks money is in the form of prepaid credit cards which are untraceable! I wonder why. I have a prepaid credit card. It's convenient. -- ************************************************** **** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * It has been said that Jesus died on a Friday and * * was resurrected on a Sunday. It is not so much * * that Jesus died for our sins, as he had a very * * bad weekend for them. * ************************************************** **** |
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