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Rudy October 26th 08 07:40 AM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 

"ray lunder" wrote in message
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Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat


42' Wauquiez Centurion
a.. Year: 1991
b.. Current Price: Can$ 179,900
c.. Located in Vancouver, BC
d.. Hull Material: Fiberglass
e.. Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel
f.. YW# 3744-1779480
Details at: http://www.fraseryachtsales.com/




ray lunder[_14_] October 26th 08 07:55 AM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?

Dennis Pogson[_2_] October 26th 08 09:03 AM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 

"ray lunder" wrote in message
...
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?


$30-$40 for a cruising sailboat? Have we estimated that correctly? Do you
mean $30K-$40K?

Dennis.


Brian Whatcott October 26th 08 12:56 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:03:43 -0000, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:

....
$30-$40 for a cruising sailboat? Have we estimated that correctly? Do you
mean $30K-$40K?

Dennis.


40 boat bucks, I imagine

Brian W

Ansley W. Sawyer October 26th 08 01:41 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
Ray,

I am afraid that you are a bit optimistic about finding a decent cruising
boat for $1K/foot. I would think that $2-3K/foot is more realistic.

I do not think that most of us cruising sailors will sell our boats during
these hard financial times. We may sell our homes/wives/kids/stuff and keep
our boats.

Cheers

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem



cavelamb himself[_4_] October 26th 08 02:09 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
ray lunder wrote:
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?



Take a look at www.sailingtexas.com.


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Richard

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Peaceful Bill October 26th 08 02:57 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
ray lunder wrote:
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?


Try looking around Galveston Bay. There's probably a few hurricane
salvage boats that have large holes in the hull you can get for a bargain.

Otherwise, go troll elsewhere.


Paul Cassel October 26th 08 03:04 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
ray lunder wrote:
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?


Older boats are in this range including some excellently made ones. I'll
start you with Westsail 32 and then Pearsons or Cape Dorys. You are just
a bit light for a ready to go boat, but there are plenty which need some
spiffying up which are out there.

Finding them is easy. To start online, go to yachtworld.com, put in your
spec's and then just browse away.

Charles Momsen October 26th 08 03:56 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 

"ray lunder" wrote in message
...
Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?


Coronado 27s will always get top dollar regardless of market conditions.



Wayne.B October 26th 08 04:04 PM

Deals on bluewater boats yet?
 
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:55:47 -0800, ray lunder
wrote:

Looking for a used cruise equiped 30-40 foot sailboat for approx a us
buck per foot. Any ideas? Techniques? I've tried 38/48 north and
craigslist so far. Most of these are worn out craft from the 60/70's
in need of major refit or were never cruise equiped in the first
place. To cruise equip a boat at present "boatyard" or "west marine"
cost is prohibitive. I'm in washington state, usa but don't mind
flying somewhere. You'd think with all these bank problems people
would be forced to sell luxury items. Are we going to see a 70's style
bargain hunter season any time soon? Please don't let this degrade
into a political thread, I just want to buy a boat. What's a person
with ready cash to do?


Spend some time prowling Yacht World and remember that those are
"asking" prices. Everything is highly negotiable. The used boat
capitol of the world is Ft Lauderdale/South Florida. There are lots
of 30 something boats in your price range but not many 40s unless they
need a *lot* of work. Prices increase in non-linear proportion to
length. Weight/displacement is a better indicator.

The time to buy is probably right now. In the mid to late 70s
inflation took hold in a big way and the price of used boats actually
appreciated for a while, priced in dollars. It was an illusion
however because the price of new boats increased even more. This
scenario is likely to repeat itself several years down the road.

What ever you buy, plan on spending at least half again as much, quite
possibly more, to get it back up to reliable, cruise-ready condition.
A more realistic price point for a good 40 footer ready to cruise is
in the range of $100K. After that, plan on spending at least $10K per
year just on boat upgrades and maintenance.



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