On 2008-10-06 21:40:49 -0400, "Roger Long" said:

"Jere Lull" wrote

As one who counseled them that Hattaras could blow up unpredictably in
any given hour, particularly this time of year, I have to say it seems
they're taking appropriate actions and precautions, are using every
available input.


I'll agree that they have done it well, this time. As long as it
doesn't lead them into thinking they can push their luck a little
farther next time, and a little farther the next time it works out,
they'll be fine.

Urmmm, isn't that how we all broaden our horizons? A little the first
time, bit more next, etc.?

I'll agree that their first steps are larger than mine, but within the
framework of the passage-making they're doing, they're doing it with
more awareness of particularly the weather than most delivery crews
have.

Because of the time-bind they're in, this leg of their journey is more
a delivery than cruising, but they ARE ducking out of the weather.

As I type, they just entered Charleston Harbor, probably passed Fort
Sumter just about now. It really is kewl to flip the satellite view on
at times such as this.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
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Jere Lull wrote:

As I type, they just entered Charleston Harbor, probably passed Fort
Sumter just about now. It really is kewl to flip the satellite view on
at times such as this.

Ain't that the truth? Think they're headed for the municipal marina?

Cheers
Martin

On 2008-10-07 00:20:33 -0400, Marty said:

Jere Lull wrote:

As I type, they just entered Charleston Harbor, probably passed Fort
Sumter just about now. It really is kewl to flip the satellite view on
at times such as this.

Ain't that the truth? Think they're headed for the municipal marina?

Well, they seemed to tie up to a dock about 1:40 and haven't moved
(appreciably) since.
--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:16:16 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

I'll agree that they have done it well, this time. As long as it
doesn't lead them into thinking they can push their luck a little
farther next time, and a little farther the next time it works out,
they'll be fine.

Urmmm, isn't that how we all broaden our horizons? A little the first
time, bit more next, etc.?

When my kids were teenagers learning how to drive, I used to tell them
that one of the key things about becoming a safe driver is to live
through your first one or two accidents. Until you've been "caught
out" a few times the same thing may apply to boating.

"Jere Lull" wrote

Urmmm, isn't that how we all broaden our horizons? A little the first
time, bit more next, etc.?

This is an issue I gave a lot of thought to during my flying days when
people I knew died more frequently than in boating and I was very interested
in the human factors because it was clear that they were the primary
determinent of longevity.

There is a very subtle distinction between developing experience and
increasing proficiency and luck. The house odds never change. While
increasing competence lets you safely deal with more challenging situations,
it's easy to start thinking that this effects the latter. Its killed many
pilots as well as sailors.

I personally think S&L are doing very well and had a good strategy for this
ordinarily risky passage. I don't expect them to get cocky but it's
something to think about in general terms. I"m sure they are still making a
lot of mistakes but I'm still making them after four decades of sailing.
They are making good progress on the basics. I saw them right after their
first long passage and they were remarkably perky. They have found a watch
keeping and energy conservation routine that works.

They have the makings of solidly competent cruisers despite (or perhaps
because of) their well publisized early mistakes.

--
Roger Long