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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:42:19 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: Thanks Dennis I can't do the "match the price" thing. In Australia, the cheapest I can get them is $499 or about $US440 plus I have to pay postage from the East coast. I see them in Pineapple Sails for $US295. Like you, I am very concerned about fit and return issues, the reason for my caution. Hoges in WA Personally, if I decided I wanted to spend such an excessive amount for a pair of shoes, there would no problem kicking in a few hundred dollars more to fly to a store and have them properly fitted. You may well find them unsuitable. In a backwards fashion, your concern about shipping costs make me think of somebody who will scour eBay for weeks to get an item for $2.00 instead of $3.00, then pop $35.00 for next-day shipping. At the end, your feet are precious, and if it is only Dubarry Shamrocks that will keep them happy, have those shoes properly fitted. --Vic Vic It's not the shipping costs that are the problem, it's the logistics. I'm half a world away from where they are, in Western Australia. And it's not an eBay issue thing either, it's simply that I have to source things on-line. An air fare for me to SF is something like $1,400. I'm also curious about Helly Hansen boots, but I can't get them in Oz either. As you suggest, having them properly fitted makes a lot of sense - I'm just having trouble with the price difference of $US440 to $US295. Hoges in WA |
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:04:47 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:42:19 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: Thanks Dennis I can't do the "match the price" thing. In Australia, the cheapest I can get them is $499 or about $US440 plus I have to pay postage from the East coast. I see them in Pineapple Sails for $US295. Like you, I am very concerned about fit and return issues, the reason for my caution. Hoges in WA Personally, if I decided I wanted to spend such an excessive amount for a pair of shoes, there would no problem kicking in a few hundred dollars more to fly to a store and have them properly fitted. You may well find them unsuitable. In a backwards fashion, your concern about shipping costs make me think of somebody who will scour eBay for weeks to get an item for $2.00 instead of $3.00, then pop $35.00 for next-day shipping. At the end, your feet are precious, and if it is only Dubarry Shamrocks that will keep them happy, have those shoes properly fitted. Vic It's not the shipping costs that are the problem, it's the logistics. I'm half a world away from where they are, in Western Australia. And it's not an eBay issue thing either, it's simply that I have to source things on-line. An air fare for me to SF is something like $1,400. I'm also curious about Helly Hansen boots, but I can't get them in Oz either. As you suggest, having them properly fitted makes a lot of sense - I'm just having trouble with the price difference of $US440 to $US295. Sorry Hoges, I understood it as a trip across Oz, not clear to S.F. It's odd how Oz pricing works. I can understand a substantial price difference for a boat or car due to shipping costs. But shoes? Most likely limited distribution/retailing rights. My suggestion is to buy an international calling card and try calling the sellers with the best prices to sort out the size, return, and shipping issues. My son is in Oz and the cards are very cheap, as they are here in the U.S. 8-12 hours for $US5.00 or close to it. With a high-priced item like those shoes you should find decent customer service when phoning, and even a contact name for any issue that may arise. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:04:47 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:42:19 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: Thanks Dennis I can't do the "match the price" thing. In Australia, the cheapest I can get them is $499 or about $US440 plus I have to pay postage from the East coast. I see them in Pineapple Sails for $US295. Like you, I am very concerned about fit and return issues, the reason for my caution. Hoges in WA Personally, if I decided I wanted to spend such an excessive amount for a pair of shoes, there would no problem kicking in a few hundred dollars more to fly to a store and have them properly fitted. You may well find them unsuitable. In a backwards fashion, your concern about shipping costs make me think of somebody who will scour eBay for weeks to get an item for $2.00 instead of $3.00, then pop $35.00 for next-day shipping. At the end, your feet are precious, and if it is only Dubarry Shamrocks that will keep them happy, have those shoes properly fitted. Vic It's not the shipping costs that are the problem, it's the logistics. I'm half a world away from where they are, in Western Australia. And it's not an eBay issue thing either, it's simply that I have to source things on-line. An air fare for me to SF is something like $1,400. I'm also curious about Helly Hansen boots, but I can't get them in Oz either. As you suggest, having them properly fitted makes a lot of sense - I'm just having trouble with the price difference of $US440 to $US295. Sorry Hoges, I understood it as a trip across Oz, not clear to S.F. It's odd how Oz pricing works. I can understand a substantial price difference for a boat or car due to shipping costs. But shoes? Most likely limited distribution/retailing rights. My suggestion is to buy an international calling card and try calling the sellers with the best prices to sort out the size, return, and shipping issues. My son is in Oz and the cards are very cheap, as they are here in the U.S. 8-12 hours for $US5.00 or close to it. With a high-priced item like those shoes you should find decent customer service when phoning, and even a contact name for any issue that may arise. --Vic You got it in one with the limited distribution rights, Vic. That's always what it boils down to. It's not as if they do anything like raising market awareness or promoting the product either - they let the manufacturer do that and do nothing other than inflate the price because they know the alternatives are limited. I can understand it when they carry a range and promote it etc as you need to get a return on your investment but they carry only a couple of demos and then order in to fulfil. The Musto range is an example - even the Australian Distributor can't be bothered carrying it all, let alone the retailers - they'll order it from the UK, though. My m-i-l lives in Az (near Kingman) and I was going to get her to ship on to me if I get them from Pineapple Sails but I want to get comfortable with the size issue first. E.g. I have a pair of Henri-Lloyd deck shoes that I bought in Oz that say Eu 46 UK 11 US 12. I have a pair of Columbia hikers that say Eu 46 UK 12 US13. The Lloyds are a little tight so I guess that the US 12 is probably more of an accurate description than relying on the Eu number? So here we have two that say Eu46 that are obviously not the same?? I'll sit and think a little I guess. Hoges in WA |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:04:47 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:42:19 GMT, "Hoges in WA" wrote: Thanks Dennis I can't do the "match the price" thing. In Australia, the cheapest I can get them is $499 or about $US440 plus I have to pay postage from the East coast. I see them in Pineapple Sails for $US295. Like you, I am very concerned about fit and return issues, the reason for my caution. Hoges in WA Personally, if I decided I wanted to spend such an excessive amount for a pair of shoes, there would no problem kicking in a few hundred dollars more to fly to a store and have them properly fitted. You may well find them unsuitable. In a backwards fashion, your concern about shipping costs make me think of somebody who will scour eBay for weeks to get an item for $2.00 instead of $3.00, then pop $35.00 for next-day shipping. At the end, your feet are precious, and if it is only Dubarry Shamrocks that will keep them happy, have those shoes properly fitted. Vic It's not the shipping costs that are the problem, it's the logistics. I'm half a world away from where they are, in Western Australia. And it's not an eBay issue thing either, it's simply that I have to source things on-line. An air fare for me to SF is something like $1,400. I'm also curious about Helly Hansen boots, but I can't get them in Oz either. As you suggest, having them properly fitted makes a lot of sense - I'm just having trouble with the price difference of $US440 to $US295. Sorry Hoges, I understood it as a trip across Oz, not clear to S.F. It's odd how Oz pricing works. I can understand a substantial price difference for a boat or car due to shipping costs. But shoes? Most likely limited distribution/retailing rights. My suggestion is to buy an international calling card and try calling the sellers with the best prices to sort out the size, return, and shipping issues. My son is in Oz and the cards are very cheap, as they are here in the U.S. 8-12 hours for $US5.00 or close to it. With a high-priced item like those shoes you should find decent customer service when phoning, and even a contact name for any issue that may arise. --Vic You got it in one with the limited distribution rights, Vic. That's always what it boils down to. It's not as if they do anything like raising market awareness or promoting the product either - they let the manufacturer do that and do nothing other than inflate the price because they know the alternatives are limited. I can understand it when they carry a range and promote it etc as you need to get a return on your investment but they carry only a couple of demos and then order in to fulfil. The Musto range is an example - even the Australian Distributor can't be bothered carrying it all, let alone the retailers - they'll order it from the UK, though. My m-i-l lives in Az (near Kingman) and I was going to get her to ship on to me if I get them from Pineapple Sails but I want to get comfortable with the size issue first. E.g. I have a pair of Henri-Lloyd deck shoes that I bought in Oz that say Eu 46 UK 11 US 12. I have a pair of Columbia hikers that say Eu 46 UK 12 US13. The Lloyds are a little tight so I guess that the US 12 is probably more of an accurate description than relying on the Eu number? So here we have two that say Eu46 that are obviously not the same?? I'll sit and think a little I guess. Hoges in WA Ireland, where the Dubarries are made, is in the EU, and uses EU sizing on it's website. An EU 46 is the same as a UK 11 or a US12. Dubarry's have a decent website and I am sure would respond to e-mails if you need more help with sizing. It is always better with sailing boots to err on the big side as you can wear all kinds of socks when sailing (depending on the weather and your climate). I don't know how the boots bought direct from Dubarry would compare price-wise with those bought from Ozi chandlers, but I am sure you would get some help if you made contact with them. Do stress that you need sailing boots, as their range is extensive and a great hit with the horsey crowd here in UK. For the record, I paid £165 cash for my Dubarry's. http://www.dubarryboots.com/catalogue/20 http://www.dubarryboots.com/about_marine.php http://www.sailingclothingstore.co.u...434_bd412.aspx Dennis. |
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Ireland, where the Dubarries are made, is in the EU, and uses EU sizing on it's website. An EU 46 is the same as a UK 11 or a US12. Dubarry's have a decent website and I am sure would respond to e-mails if you need more help with sizing. It is always better with sailing boots to err on the big side as you can wear all kinds of socks when sailing (depending on the weather and your climate). I don't know how the boots bought direct from Dubarry would compare price-wise with those bought from Ozi chandlers, but I am sure you would get some help if you made contact with them. Do stress that you need sailing boots, as their range is extensive and a great hit with the horsey crowd here in UK. For the record, I paid £165 cash for my Dubarry's. http://www.dubarryboots.com/catalogue/20 http://www.dubarryboots.com/about_marine.php http://www.sailingclothingstore.co.u...434_bd412.aspx Dennis. A pdf file can be found at http://www.dubarry.com/DubarryMarine08.pdf and gives much more info on their sailing boot range. Dennis |
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message ... Ireland, where the Dubarries are made, is in the EU, and uses EU sizing on it's website. An EU 46 is the same as a UK 11 or a US12. Dubarry's have a decent website and I am sure would respond to e-mails if you need more help with sizing. It is always better with sailing boots to err on the big side as you can wear all kinds of socks when sailing (depending on the weather and your climate). I don't know how the boots bought direct from Dubarry would compare price-wise with those bought from Ozi chandlers, but I am sure you would get some help if you made contact with them. Do stress that you need sailing boots, as their range is extensive and a great hit with the horsey crowd here in UK. For the record, I paid £165 cash for my Dubarry's. http://www.dubarryboots.com/catalogue/20 http://www.dubarryboots.com/about_marine.php http://www.sailingclothingstore.co.u...434_bd412.aspx Dennis. A pdf file can be found at http://www.dubarry.com/DubarryMarine08.pdf and gives much more info on their sailing boot range. Dennis Dennis:- Their website is a bit screwed at present - however, I have fired off an email as suggested looking for some guidance. Thanks |
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"Hoges in WA" wrote in message ... "Dennis Pogson" wrote in message ... Ireland, where the Dubarries are made, is in the EU, and uses EU sizing on it's website. An EU 46 is the same as a UK 11 or a US12. Dubarry's have a decent website and I am sure would respond to e-mails if you need more help with sizing. It is always better with sailing boots to err on the big side as you can wear all kinds of socks when sailing (depending on the weather and your climate). I don't know how the boots bought direct from Dubarry would compare price-wise with those bought from Ozi chandlers, but I am sure you would get some help if you made contact with them. Do stress that you need sailing boots, as their range is extensive and a great hit with the horsey crowd here in UK. For the record, I paid £165 cash for my Dubarry's. http://www.dubarryboots.com/catalogue/20 http://www.dubarryboots.com/about_marine.php http://www.sailingclothingstore.co.u...434_bd412.aspx Dennis. A pdf file can be found at http://www.dubarry.com/DubarryMarine08.pdf and gives much more info on their sailing boot range. Dennis Dennis:- Their website is a bit screwed at present - however, I have fired off an email as suggested looking for some guidance. Thanks Looks like they only have one agent for the whole of Australia! Burke Pty. Ltd., 1/5 Clyde Street, Rydalmere, NSW 2116, Australia Tel: +61 2 9638 4333 Fax: +61 2 9638 7951 Email: Web: www.burkemarine.com.au No doubt you are aware of this. You could ask to be an agent for WA. Free samples? There must be demand in the Fremantle area! Dennis. |
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