On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
...*Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. ...

Very cool. I grew up reading the Ransome books and Capt. Voss and so
on and have always had a romantic vision of small boat camping.

-- Tom.

If I was going to try it now, I think I would find myself a Dovekie.
They seem ideal for that style of cruising. A little too big to drag
up into the bushes to hide it, though!

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:27:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
...*Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. ...

Very cool. I grew up reading the Ransome books and Capt. Voss and so
on and have always had a romantic vision of small boat camping.

-- Tom.

If I was going to try it now, I think I would find myself a Dovekie.
They seem ideal for that style of cruising. A little too big to drag
up into the bushes to hide it, though!

We used to know a couple from Manhasset Bay who were well known for
their "stealth camping" exploits in and around Long Island Sound.
They'd land somewhere with their back packing gear and just hide out
for a few days.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:38:08 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:27:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
...*Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. ...

Very cool. I grew up reading the Ransome books and Capt. Voss and so
on and have always had a romantic vision of small boat camping.

-- Tom.

If I was going to try it now, I think I would find myself a Dovekie.
They seem ideal for that style of cruising. A little too big to drag
up into the bushes to hide it, though!

We used to know a couple from Manhasset Bay who were well known for
their "stealth camping" exploits in and around Long Island Sound.
They'd land somewhere with their back packing gear and just hide out
for a few days.

It's a lot of fun - or it was back when I was doing it. Things are a
lot more crowded now. I used to do something similar when riding
motorcycles. I would simply pull off the road behind available cover
at night. Nowdays, that might be kind of dangerous.

When I was a teenager, we would sail a small 16 ft skiff across Buzzards Bay
and camp on the sw shore of Weepecket Island. Nice beach there and we would
be, or thought we were just outside the circle for the restricted area. It
was a great camping on the beach. One year it was over the 4th of July
weekend, we had our own fireworks with a bonfire of drift wood near the high
tide mark. Sometimes we had as many of 6 boats of teens camping. Now the
mentality is do not pass Go and it is directly to jail. Fond memories as we
sit there with Edith and Archie and sing, "Those Were the Days."

Leanne

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On Sep 1, 2:58 pm, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:28 -0700 (PDT), "
... Are there any places you can get
ashore for camping in Connecticut during the summer?

Anywhere you don't get caught! My first cruising experiences were as a
teenager in the 1960's in various small, often wooden, and always
decrepit, sailboats. I would sail to "somewhere" and camp on shore.
Usually sans tent. If the weather was especially bad, I would unstep
the mast and turn the boat over for shelter. ...

Very cool. I grew up reading the Ransome books and Capt. Voss and so
on and have always had a romantic vision of small boat camping.

-- Tom.

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:46:54 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


... I'm not going to bother with
your straw man arguments. Generally professional mariners are
experienced, knowledgeable and careful. ...
-- Tom.



Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again

There have been cases where a non pilot buys a twin, and learns to fly
in it. Those guys are not licensed for singles. No training in off
airport power off landings, for one important thing.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:46:54 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:


Brian Whatcott wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:



... I'm not going to bother with
your straw man arguments. Generally professional mariners are
experienced, knowledgeable and careful. ...
-- Tom.



Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again


There have been cases where a non pilot buys a twin, and learns to fly
in it. Those guys are not licensed for singles. No training in off
airport power off landings, for one important thing.

Casady


Few and far between.

And an ATR rating is just that - a rating.
Not a license.


--

Richard

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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:51:08 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:46:54 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:


Brian Whatcott wrote:

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:



... I'm not going to bother with
your straw man arguments. Generally professional mariners are
experienced, knowledgeable and careful. ...
-- Tom.



Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again


There have been cases where a non pilot buys a twin, and learns to fly
in it. Those guys are not licensed for singles. No training in off
airport power off landings, for one important thing.

Casady


Few and far between.

And an ATR rating is just that - a rating.
Not a license.

Don't leave home without it!

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:51:08 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again


There have been cases where a non pilot buys a twin, and learns to fly
in it. Those guys are not licensed for singles. No training in off
airport power off landings, for one important thing.

Casady


Few and far between.

And an ATR rating is just that - a rating.
Not a license.


Ho hum - when you're in a hole - it's best to stop digging.

If the folks who actually have a pilot ticket take it out they will
probably see under Para II "Ratings & Limitations:"
airplane single engine land.

If they DON't see that, the FAA might be interested if they
hear about single engine flight that is not in the light sport or
ultralight brackets.
And that applies to pilots with an atr (a.k.a an ATPL or ATP
depending on who issued it....)

Brian W

Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:51:08 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:


Not necessarily straw-men. An airline pilot with an atr, perhaps
backed with a cpl multiengine - ir, is not permited to fly a single
alone until he obtains that class

Brian W



That's just plain not true.

try again


There have been cases where a non pilot buys a twin, and learns to fly
in it. Those guys are not licensed for singles. No training in off
airport power off landings, for one important thing.

Casady


Few and far between.

And an ATR rating is just that - a rating.
Not a license.



Ho hum - when you're in a hole - it's best to stop digging.

If the folks who actually have a pilot ticket take it out they will
probably see under Para II "Ratings & Limitations:"
airplane single engine land.

If they DON't see that, the FAA might be interested if they
hear about single engine flight that is not in the light sport or
ultralight brackets.
And that applies to pilots with an atr (a.k.a an ATPL or ATP
depending on who issued it....)

Brian W



Mine says single engine land.

But I personally don't know, nor have I heard of any, who have a
multi-engine rating and don't have the single engine rating as well.

Do you?

--

Richard

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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:08:01 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:


If the folks who actually have a pilot ticket take it out they will
probably see under Para II "Ratings & Limitations:"
airplane single engine land.

If they DON't see that, the FAA might be interested if they
hear about single engine flight that is not in the light sport or
ultralight brackets.
And that applies to pilots with an atr (a.k.a an ATPL or ATP
depending on who issued it....)

Brian W



Mine says single engine land.

But I personally don't know, nor have I heard of any, who have a
multi-engine rating and don't have the single engine rating as well.

Do you?

Yes. But then I am aware of the prime recruitment avenue for
airline pilots - the military. USAF pilots of large
passenger/cargo/refuel aircraft are the major airline choices in this
country. These are the folks with whom I work.

Their training is more extensive, intensive and expensive than any
pilot that starts out with a CPL/IR.
And they don't attract a S.E.L when they leave the service.

Brian W