I'm sure there's a good reason - but my initial looking discloses two basic
types of sanitation hose.

Both claim the same purpose (keep the stuff and the odor inside while on the
way outside), but there's one which is 3x the price of the other.

What's the difference, other than the obvious price? Easier to use? Won't
let the odor/seep through, ever, vs some number of years? Stays whiter in
more conditions?

The difference, in boat money terms, is pretty insignificant, I'd say (some
couple-three hundred bux for the standard 50' roll), but if it's not needed,
I can use that couple-three somewhere else.

Anybody used both (e.g. "148" vs "Sealand") who can give experiential input?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip

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I'm sure there's a good reason - but my initial looking discloses two basic
types of sanitation hose.

Both claim the same purpose (keep the stuff and the odor inside while on the
way outside), but there's one which is 3x the price of the other.

What's the difference, other than the obvious price? Easier to use? Won't
let the odor/seep through, ever, vs some number of years? Stays whiter in
more conditions?

The difference, in boat money terms, is pretty insignificant, I'd say (some
couple-three hundred bux for the standard 50' roll), but if it's not needed,
I can use that couple-three somewhere else.

Anybody used both (e.g. "148" vs "Sealand") who can give experiential input?

Thanks.

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2


Skip,

Spend the extra money.

The Sealand "Odorsafe" hose is actually from an Aussie company, its real
product name is AVS96. There may be other companies distributing this
hose in the states since I believe they've started to manufacture it
here.

I used a small piece of it when I first rerouted my sanitation system a
few years back. It was the section from the holding tank to the y-valve
so it was constantly bathed in black water. No detectable permeation in
three years. I've now replace nearly all my sanitation runs with the
AVS96 product.

I purchased some a few months ago from Fisheries Supply in Seattle and
it's the same product I've used from Sealand. It's harder to work with
than the Trident hose but well worth the work and investment.

No interest in the product other than a satisfied customer.

jps

Skip, you got good advice from JPS and Glenn. SeaLand "OdorSafe" and the
Aussie "Odorfree" hose have proven in independent testing to be 16 x
more resistant to odor permation than any other sanitation hose on the
market. It's stiff as an ironing board, though...which means you'll
most likely need to use inline radius fittings. Don't ever heat ANY hose
to bend it tighter than it wants to bend easily...you'll damage the
hose. I've seen it kink, and even develop tears on the outside of a hard
bend.

The Sealand "Odorsafe" hose is actually from an Aussie company, its real
product name is AVS96. There may be other companies distributing this
hose in the states since I believe they've started to manufacture it
here.

They haven't begun mfr'g it here, only distributing it under their own
brand name. For nearly 10 years, SeaLand was the exclusive US
distributer...they private labelled it "OdorSafe." I don't have the
inside skinny (yet) about why that deal is over, but the Aussies aren't
selling it to SeaLand any more at all...they're marketing it here under
their own brand name "AVS96 Odorfree." Here's a link to the Aussies'
website about it: http://www.aussieglobe.com/avs96.htm

Meanwhile, SeaLand has just introduced "OdorSafe Plus," which they claim
is even better and is made in Italy. Price is the about the same for it
as for original OdorSafe/AVS96. I haven't seen any test results on it
yet, so I'm taking a "wait and see" stance for now. But I do know that
the AVS96 stuff is all but totally impervious to odor permeation...it's
readily available here...and that's what I'd use if it were my own boat.

--
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----------
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Peggie Hall wrote:
It's stiff as an ironing board, though...which means you'll
most likely need to use inline radius fittings.


Peggie,

What are "inline radius fittings"? I haven't heard of these
before. Do you have a url for these on the web? (I did a quick
search and didn't find anything.)

Cindy

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What are "inline radius fittings"? I haven't heard of these before. Do
you have a url for these on the web? (I did a quick search and didn't
find anything.)


Try he http://www.sealandservices.com/hose_fittings.htm Scroll down
till you come to the fittings.


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Peggie Hall wrote:
What are "inline radius fittings"?

Try he http://www.sealandservices.com/hose_fittings.htm Scroll down
till you come to the fittings.

Thank you!

I didn't notice a connector for a "slightly oversized" barbed
male thru-hull fitting. Talk about blood, sweat, and tears - I
had all three in abundance before my husband took over and used a
piece of rubber exhaust hose. (Better the head that works and
smells, than the head that can't be used at all.) Any good
suggestions for making this work without heating (and splitting)
the hose?

Cindy

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the return email is a spam trap
send legit emails to cindy_at_ballreich_dot_net

Peggie Hall wrote:
What are "inline radius fittings"?

Try he http://www.sealandservices.com/hose_fittings.htm Scroll down
till you come to the fittings.

Thank you!

I didn't notice a connector for a "slightly oversized" barbed
male thru-hull fitting. Talk about blood, sweat, and tears - I
had all three in abundance before my husband took over and used a
piece of rubber exhaust hose. (Better the head that works and
smells, than the head that can't be used at all.) Any good
suggestions for making this work without heating (and splitting)
the hose?

Cindy

--
the return email is a spam trap
send legit emails to cindy_at_ballreich_dot_net

What are "inline radius fittings"? I haven't heard of these before. Do
you have a url for these on the web? (I did a quick search and didn't
find anything.)


Try he http://www.sealandservices.com/hose_fittings.htm Scroll down
till you come to the fittings.


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Peggie Hall wrote:
It's stiff as an ironing board, though...which means you'll
most likely need to use inline radius fittings.


Peggie,

What are "inline radius fittings"? I haven't heard of these
before. Do you have a url for these on the web? (I did a quick
search and didn't find anything.)

Cindy

--
the return email is a spam trap
send legit emails to cindy_at_ballreich_dot_net

Skip, you got good advice from JPS and Glenn. SeaLand "OdorSafe" and the
Aussie "Odorfree" hose have proven in independent testing to be 16 x
more resistant to odor permation than any other sanitation hose on the
market. It's stiff as an ironing board, though...which means you'll
most likely need to use inline radius fittings. Don't ever heat ANY hose
to bend it tighter than it wants to bend easily...you'll damage the
hose. I've seen it kink, and even develop tears on the outside of a hard
bend.

The Sealand "Odorsafe" hose is actually from an Aussie company, its real
product name is AVS96. There may be other companies distributing this
hose in the states since I believe they've started to manufacture it
here.

They haven't begun mfr'g it here, only distributing it under their own
brand name. For nearly 10 years, SeaLand was the exclusive US
distributer...they private labelled it "OdorSafe." I don't have the
inside skinny (yet) about why that deal is over, but the Aussies aren't
selling it to SeaLand any more at all...they're marketing it here under
their own brand name "AVS96 Odorfree." Here's a link to the Aussies'
website about it: http://www.aussieglobe.com/avs96.htm

Meanwhile, SeaLand has just introduced "OdorSafe Plus," which they claim
is even better and is made in Italy. Price is the about the same for it
as for original OdorSafe/AVS96. I haven't seen any test results on it
yet, so I'm taking a "wait and see" stance for now. But I do know that
the AVS96 stuff is all but totally impervious to odor permeation...it's
readily available here...and that's what I'd use if it were my own boat.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327