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Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND

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Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND

:-D
--
David T-G
see http://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/




The technology is definitely here but I'm not sure if it's here for the
water. It's definitely here for the land.

I use a Garmin Forerunner 301 for recording my cycle training rides which
average 200-300 miles a week. But this is more a land-based unit for
land-based workouts such as longer cycling training rides, races or running.
The Forerunner has it's own computer-based software that comes on a CD and
can be installed to Mac or Windows OS. It's called Training Center. You
download what the Forerunner records to your PC. It has some nice tracking
features and will place your entire route on a basic road or trail map. It
also has a heart rate monitor that keeps track of your workout with respect
to heart rate, calories, speed, distance, elevation, zones, laps etc.

If you wish to get more detailed maps (Google satellite and topo), weather
conditions at the time and a whole lot more as well as comparing your
training and routes to what others have recorded you can download for free
something called "Motion Based Agent"

http://www.motionbased.com/support/h...ort.help.agent

You get a lot of good stuff for free and if you want to upgrade ($$) you get
a lot more.

You didn't say but you're probably looking for something like this but for
marine wanderings without the physical fitness parameters. I guess it would
still show your route on the map but a watery map unless you're near shore
or in the Intracoastal. Check the above site for compatibility with your
hardware. I think I recall it saying something about certain Magellan units
being compatible.


Wilbur Hubbard


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Forget Motion Based. They are in the process of being bought out by Garmin.
I just tried to use it for the first time in a week or so and it's too slow
to be workable. It timed out more often than not. Took over five minutes to
upload a couple of days worth of workouts to the inbox. I could not get it
to process even one workout to the main page. I sent an e-mail to their
support dept and they were kind enough to reply in a timely manner but it
doesn't look good.

"Thanks for contacting MotionBased support.

"I'm very sorry you've been experiencing slow times on the site. We are
working hard on improving the speed and performance of the site. We have
made great strides both with MotionBased and the new site, Garmin Connect.

"Let me know if you need anything further.

"Best,

"Kathryn
MotionBased Staff"

-----------------------------------------

When I click the Garmin Connect site it looks like they are dragging their
feet bigtime. It must be a low priority project for Garmin. Missing go
dates. Missing projections. Also, it looks like there will only be support
for limited Garmin hardware in the foreseeable future.

Garmin doesn't seem to put a whole lot of priority on customer service. The
message I often get from them is, "Buy our stuff, then STFU."

I uninstalled this waste of space from my computer. Maybe in a year or two
they might get it operational. I'll stick to the local software, Training
Center, which is limited but at least it works.

Wilbur Hubbard



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Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND

:-D
--
David T-G
see http://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/




The technology is definitely here but I'm not sure if it's here for the
water. It's definitely here for the land.

I use a Garmin Forerunner 301 for recording my cycle training rides which
average 200-300 miles a week. But this is more a land-based unit for
land-based workouts such as longer cycling training rides, races or
running. The Forerunner has it's own computer-based software that comes on
a CD and can be installed to Mac or Windows OS. It's called Training
Center. You download what the Forerunner records to your PC. It has some
nice tracking features and will place your entire route on a basic road or
trail map. It also has a heart rate monitor that keeps track of your
workout with respect to heart rate, calories, speed, distance, elevation,
zones, laps etc.

If you wish to get more detailed maps (Google satellite and topo), weather
conditions at the time and a whole lot more as well as comparing your
training and routes to what others have recorded you can download for free
something called "Motion Based Agent"

http://www.motionbased.com/support/h...ort.help.agent

You get a lot of good stuff for free and if you want to upgrade ($$) you
get a lot more.

You didn't say but you're probably looking for something like this but for
marine wanderings without the physical fitness parameters. I guess it
would still show your route on the map but a watery map unless you're near
shore or in the Intracoastal. Check the above site for compatibility with
your hardware. I think I recall it saying something about certain Magellan
units being compatible.


Wilbur Hubbard



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On Aug 21, 2:19*pm, wrote:
Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. *Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. *Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. *Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?

TIA & HAND

:-D
--
David T-G
seehttp://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/


http://goopstechnologies.com/
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On Aug 21, 8:16*pm, "Capt.Bill" wrote:
On Aug 21, 2:19*pm, wrote:





Hi, all --


I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.


I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. *Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. *Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.


I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. *Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.


Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND


:-D
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seehttp://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/


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wrote in news:a8347b07-841e-4181-a7f4-fd8bbb1531f8@
8g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.


It was all great until you said "free". I think Skip has the right
idea, though....Spot:

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...ots.jsp?&glId=
0sKGa9AJRCF45FaX5L5g6PLcZGvSb3nMe

Looks like they had to do a bit of tacking in Buzzards Bay, today....(c;

They're in Vineyard Haven, tonight. The last fix was 14 minutes ago....

Take a look.

You might find Maemo Mapper, a freeware program the hackers wrote for
the Nokia N800/N810 Linux internet tablets very handy. MM will track
you in realtime on one of several different mapping programs like Google
Maps and Virtual Earth and lots of others you can switch between without
destroying your track. It saves the track data to a file you can copy
off and use with Google Earth or Virtual Earth to replay the trip in
standard format.

Just put "Maemo Mapper" into YouTube.com to see how well it works.
There are even instructional videos from some of the users posted to
help you.

All the open source freeware the hackers write for it are stored on a
Nokia sponsored website:
http://www.maemo.org/
Maemo Mapper is available free on:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/maemo-mapper/

You DID say you wanted FREE, right? Once it's installed, its wizard
installer will ask you if you want to see the "demo repositories" for
all the map sources. Most of them are pay for sites, but their map
repositories are open to use, anyways.

If the tablet is connected via Bluetooth to a cellphone as modem, it
will have the range of the cellphone offshore to download more map tiles
on-the-fly. You can also get a Map Loader to download a ton of map
tiles from your favorite source to store on the tablet's memory cards
before you put to sea. That software is available at:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/O...mapdownloader/

The free mapping softwares are all on:
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/travel/

There's a new map software the boy geniuses are working on for the
tablet, now:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/hike/

Hike doesn't use expensive maps. Hike runs off a PICTURE of a map,
taken with a digital camera like the one in the Linux tablet or a better
one in your cellphone. I see a GREAT use of Hike in a small yacht!

Take a picture of each nautical chart for your sailing area.....
Introduce the picture to the HIKE software and do its reference point
calibration procedure for each picture.....
Store them on the tablet's memory card to bring up any time you need
one...
No expensive chart plugs, no expensive charting software or hardware.
The N810 has an internal 12-channel WAAS-compensaged GPS built into it!
The N800's gps is via bluetooth externally, which has a great advantage
of portability. The N800 tablet must be within 60' of its GPS receiver,
which you'd leave somewhere for a clear view of the sky. Then you can
roam anywhere on the boat with the GPS data via Bluetooth without having
to worry about the tablet being in view of the sky. It just needs that
radio link to its tiny GPS receiver.

Maemo Mapper is so accurate on Virtual Earth it will place your car with
the GPS receiver up on the dash WITHIN THE VERY PARKING SPACE the car is
currently parked in.....or perfectly tracking down the correct LANE of
the interstate at 70 MPH. Your track even shows you changing lanes...

I don't know how long the track can be. I have two 16GB SDHC memory
cards and never traveled that far that it ever crashed.

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:12:29 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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wrote in message
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Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND

:-D
--
David T-G
see http://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/




The technology is definitely here but I'm not sure if it's here for the
water. It's definitely here for the land.

I use a Garmin Forerunner 301 for recording my cycle training rides which
average 200-300 miles a week. But this is more a land-based unit for
land-based workouts such as longer cycling training rides, races or running.
The Forerunner has it's own computer-based software that comes on a CD and
can be installed to Mac or Windows OS. It's called Training Center. You
download what the Forerunner records to your PC. It has some nice tracking
features and will place your entire route on a basic road or trail map. It
also has a heart rate monitor that keeps track of your workout with respect
to heart rate, calories, speed, distance, elevation, zones, laps etc.

If you wish to get more detailed maps (Google satellite and topo), weather
conditions at the time and a whole lot more as well as comparing your
training and routes to what others have recorded you can download for free
something called "Motion Based Agent"

http://www.motionbased.com/support/h...ort.help.agent

You get a lot of good stuff for free and if you want to upgrade ($$) you get
a lot more.

You didn't say but you're probably looking for something like this but for
marine wanderings without the physical fitness parameters. I guess it would
still show your route on the map but a watery map unless you're near shore
or in the Intracoastal. Check the above site for compatibility with your
hardware. I think I recall it saying something about certain Magellan units
being compatible.


Wilbur Hubbard


Riding a bicycle does not qualify you to comment about boats.
****head!


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Forget Motion Based. They are in the process of being bought out by Garmin.
I just tried to use it for the first time in a week or so and it's too slow
to be workable. It timed out more often than not. Took over five minutes to
upload a couple of days worth of workouts to the inbox. I could not get it
to process even one workout to the main page. I sent an e-mail to their
support dept and they were kind enough to reply in a timely manner but it
doesn't look good.

"Thanks for contacting MotionBased support.

"I'm very sorry you've been experiencing slow times on the site. We are
working hard on improving the speed and performance of the site. We have
made great strides both with MotionBased and the new site, Garmin Connect.

"Let me know if you need anything further.

"Best,

"Kathryn
MotionBased Staff"

-----------------------------------------

When I click the Garmin Connect site it looks like they are dragging their
feet bigtime. It must be a low priority project for Garmin. Missing go
dates. Missing projections. Also, it looks like there will only be support
for limited Garmin hardware in the foreseeable future.

Garmin doesn't seem to put a whole lot of priority on customer service. The
message I often get from them is, "Buy our stuff, then STFU."

I uninstalled this waste of space from my computer. Maybe in a year or two
they might get it operational. I'll stick to the local software, Training
Center, which is limited but at least it works.

Wilbur Hubbard



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Hi, all --

I am just starting toward my goal of being able to track real-time or
near-real-time points along a particular wandering and then download/
export/whatever those to Google Earth or a similar mapping tool.
Aside from the hardware itself, the goal is to do it for free.

I've just been given a Magellan Triton 200 for my birthday, and I want
to know if this is the right unit for me. Their tech support says
that I cannot export a full track (the entire collection of auto-
recorded points along the way) but instead only manually-saved
waypoints, but on the other hand it looks like it might work. Getting
the data out and into something like Google Earth format, though, is
perhaps another challenge.

I've seen a single thread that pointed to earthnc.com that looked a
little interesting but 1) it seems to be tied to nautical use, which
is too limited for me (air + water & ground is nice as well), and 2)
it looks like it costs anyway. Maybe I've misread it and/or maybe it
will work anyway and/or maybe something else is out there that would
serve me better.

Has anyone here worked with the Triton in particular or other handheld
units in general to provide any opinions and assistance, and is anyone
in the habit of exporting auto-recorded tracks to something that will
let you follow along and review and share?


TIA & HAND

:-D
--
David T-G
see http://justpickeone.org/davidtg/email/




The technology is definitely here but I'm not sure if it's here for the
water. It's definitely here for the land.

I use a Garmin Forerunner 301 for recording my cycle training rides which
average 200-300 miles a week. But this is more a land-based unit for
land-based workouts such as longer cycling training rides, races or
running. The Forerunner has it's own computer-based software that comes on
a CD and can be installed to Mac or Windows OS. It's called Training
Center. You download what the Forerunner records to your PC. It has some
nice tracking features and will place your entire route on a basic road or
trail map. It also has a heart rate monitor that keeps track of your
workout with respect to heart rate, calories, speed, distance, elevation,
zones, laps etc.

If you wish to get more detailed maps (Google satellite and topo), weather
conditions at the time and a whole lot more as well as comparing your
training and routes to what others have recorded you can download for free
something called "Motion Based Agent"

http://www.motionbased.com/support/h...ort.help.agent

You get a lot of good stuff for free and if you want to upgrade ($$) you
get a lot more.

You didn't say but you're probably looking for something like this but for
marine wanderings without the physical fitness parameters. I guess it
would still show your route on the map but a watery map unless you're near
shore or in the Intracoastal. Check the above site for compatibility with
your hardware. I think I recall it saying something about certain Magellan
units being compatible.


Wilbur Hubbard



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