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Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc. It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other. Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or "Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked up from 3rd mate to command. Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong and songkok for authenticity. Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get your face away from your coffee cup. BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures, top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair - same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are made in Japan with sprung hinges. My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his women but he wanted too much for each of them. Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses. It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl. cheers Peter |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: In article , says... Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics at sea etc. It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other. Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or "Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked up from 3rd mate to command. Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong and songkok for authenticity. Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get your face away from your coffee cup. BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures, top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair - same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are made in Japan with sprung hinges. My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his women but he wanted too much for each of them. Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses. It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl. cheers Peter I have never heard a serious sailor refer to himself as "Captain". I do know an individual who introduces others as Captain but it appears to be more of an identification sort of thing. i.e., a Mister can be anyone but a Captain is somebody on a boat. At least I assume that is his intent as he has never, in my hearing, referred to himself as "Captain" although he has been sailing for 50 years or more. "Captain", outside of the military, and in some business transactions, is an honorific to be used by others to address you, not a prefix you use yourself, unless it is in the course of conducting business where knowing that you hold a Captain license is pertinent. It's not for everyday use socially. Do Lawyers, (who are especially prone to self promotion) run around introducing themselves as "Attorney Clarence Darrow, Esq"? I don't think so. I get addressed as Captain, when someone doesn't know my name, and doesn't want to just say, "Hey you!", or even worse, "Dude!", but I would never introduce myself that way. Actually, I don't even like being addressed as Mister. I feel more comfortable being called by my first name. The guy who carries your suitcase at the hotel is the Bell Captain. |
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On Aug 20, 11:56*pm, Herodotus wrote:
Just curious as to *how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. cheers Peter Good day, Two thoughts....................... First, another reason to FLOSS DAILY begining as a child. Parents are ver ignorant when it comes to raising children. To bad we dont have a license for fertiity........ Second, Ive been reading a discssion board for profeesional mariners. Mostly GOM and tug guys and the same question was raised. Who gets to be called Captain? Several distinctins were made. # Only Unlimited Masters Oceans can be called Capatin # Others say if your License says Master regardless of tonage on it AND you sail it then you can call ur self a Captain # Another guy says, you have to sail as a captain with a LIcense to be called captian if you dont sail the license then ur jus a mate. # Still another thoght, even if you are a mear 100 grt master and the coast guard is investigating your actions as master on a vesel they most certainly WILL be calling you Captain. # All agreed Recreational Saillors are Skipper until they have a USCG Master License AND sail it for profit. ARG! Bob |
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On Aug 20, 11:56*pm, Herodotus wrote:
cheers Peter I forgot to remend everyone to FLOSS DAILY ! ! ! Its cheeper in the long run := All my teeth and only 4 fillings Bob |
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Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics at sea etc. It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other. I think generally it is how one refers to a guy on a boat when you don't know his name. The first time I ever heard it was the first time we took our boat out by ourselves after we bought it and we were having trouble getting back into the PO's slip because of a side wind and having to back in. The people from the fuel dock said "Captain permission to come aboard" before they leapt onto the boat from a neighboring boat. There are, of course, Captains in the armed forces. I used to coach swimming for a Navy base age group swim team. Some of the men who were stationed there would help out and some even swam with the team as masters swimmers. I did have one Captain - a ranking Navy officer who helped with the young beginning swimmers. There was also an Air Force Captain who swam masters swimming and he would swim at some of the meets with us to get times he could submit for the national meets. I think he set a national Masters long course record in the 200 breast stroke. The kids would cheer him on by saying "GO Captain". This caused some surprise among the parents who were used to the rank of Captain in the Navy being quite a senior rank. The kids called him Captain even after he made Major. "GO Major" just didn't have the same ring to it. Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or "Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked up from 3rd mate to command. Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong and songkok for authenticity. Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get your face away from your coffee cup. BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures, top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair - same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are made in Japan with sprung hinges. My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his women but he wanted too much for each of them. Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses. It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl. cheers Peter |
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"Herodotus" wrote
I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" Fair enough, skipper... |
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Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics at sea etc. It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other. Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or "Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked up from 3rd mate to command. Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong and songkok for authenticity. Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get your face away from your coffee cup. BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures, top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair - same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are made in Japan with sprung hinges. My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his women but he wanted too much for each of them. Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses. It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl. cheers Peter Well, I used to be called "Emporer". I thought "God" seemed a little presumptious. My friends just call me "Larry". Without the "2". Regardless of whether I'm sailing, powerboating, driving, or just walking. -- Larry 2 rapp at lmr dot com |
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In article ,
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote: "Herodotus" wrote I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" Fair enough, skipper... I can go with 'Skipper' as it's informal but accurate. 'Captain' has an authority that extends beyond a boat. IMO. And that makes me uncomfortable whether applied to me or by anyone else. -- Molesworth |
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Molesworth wrote:
In article , "Ernest Scribbler" wrote: "Herodotus" wrote I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" Fair enough, skipper... I can go with 'Skipper' as it's informal but accurate. 'Captain' has an authority that extends beyond a boat. IMO. And that makes me uncomfortable whether applied to me or by anyone else. And, of course, if you have a charter boat, your fares are naturally going to call you Captain and you should refer to yourself as Captain to make clear who is in command. Gordon |
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On Aug 21, 3:55 am, wrote:
.... "Captain", outside of the military, and in some business transactions, is an honorific to be used by others to address you, not a prefix you use yourself, unless it is in the course of conducting business where knowing that you hold a Captain license is pertinent. It's not for everyday use socially. .... Just to be pedantic, in the US of A we get master's licenses, not captain's. In commercial usage I think captain is a job title like CEO or CFO. When I worked for an ocean shipping company the men in charge of the box boats were always addressed as Captain when on site. I've also know socially and sailed with a few unlimited masters and they never called themselves captain and were only addressed as such by others when making a point. Where I grew up there some elders who were addressed as captain by everyone as a term of respect. On the radio commercial operators often use the term "Cap" for each other. On the docks I've occasionally heard the term used a bit ironically as in "tricky current, Captain" after a really reprehensible landing. On paperwork in the countries I've been to they generally ask for the signature of the master or owner rather than the captain. -- Tom. |
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On Aug 21, 11:11*am, Gordon wrote:
Molesworth wrote: In article , *"Ernest Scribbler" wrote: "Herodotus" wrote I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" Fair enough, skipper... I can go with 'Skipper' as it's informal but accurate. 'Captain' has an authority that extends beyond a boat. IMO. And that makes me uncomfortable whether applied to me or by anyone else. * *And, of course, if you have a charter boat, your fares are naturally going to call you Captain and you should refer to yourself as Captain to make clear who is in command. * Gordon Captain never! . . . "the old man" works . . . lots of people call me that! And for the traditionalists, its been used in the military for years, without regards to the date on the birth certificate. |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:56:51 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Don't have my boat yet Peter, though I am Master of my home. But those here just call me Dad or Honey. Those will do for now. When I get my boat when at sea I want to be known as Ahoy There and when ashore as Cream and Sugar? BTW, do you add anything to your coffee? In the Navy I drank it black while steaming, ashore it was always European style, au latte, con leche, or con Cognac. After the Navy I added cream (actually Half & Half) due to family pressures, and now have fallen to non-dairy "cream" AND SUGAR, as the lowly wife drinks it that way, and serves the same to the Master, who doesn't care to argue about it, preferring a peaceful reign. But I do make it that way now myself, out of habit. I certainly hope I haven't disgraced myself to you by admitting all that, coffee Admiral that you are. You may consider it mutiny. --Vic |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:56:51 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? I was given the title of "Capt" by an internet order form that insisted I select an honorific. Nobody over 12 calls me "Mr" and I was far too modest to select "Commodore." Now I automatically select "Capt" whenever I order fishing or sailing supplies. The federal goverment clearly thinks I'm a Captain since the United States Postal Service delivers all that mail addressed to "Capt Cox." However, when I told my dad I now outranked him, he muttered something about having been a "real" Commander in the "real" Navy, so clearly not all branches of the government are in agreement on this. Chuck Cox SynchroSystems - embedded computer design - http://synchro.com my email is politician-proof, just remove the PORK |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:06:37 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: Don't have my boat yet Peter, though I am Master of my home. But those here just call me Dad or Honey. Those will do for now. When I get my boat when at sea I want to be known as Ahoy There and when ashore as Cream and Sugar? BTW, do you add anything to your coffee? In the Navy I drank it black while steaming, ashore it was always European style, au latte, con leche, or con Cognac. After the Navy I added cream (actually Half & Half) due to family pressures, and now have fallen to non-dairy "cream" AND SUGAR, as the lowly wife drinks it that way, and serves the same to the Master, who doesn't care to argue about it, preferring a peaceful reign. But I do make it that way now myself, out of habit. I certainly hope I haven't disgraced myself to you by admitting all that, coffee Admiral that you are. You may consider it mutiny. --Vic Nice to hear your cheery voice again Vic. Yes, I drink my coffee black but sometimes with friends in the city may have a macciato or piccolo as a long black takes a while to cool enough to drink and a short black goes too quickly. In Oztralia, a long black is one shot of espresso in a standard cup topped up with hot water (dopio is two shots). However at home in Malaysia I surrender to my perversions and have black coffee asian style (hot water poured through a gauze funnel) with at least half an inch of sweetened condensed milk in the bottom - called "kopi panas" (hot coffee). Without the milk it is "kopi o" and iced coffee is "kopi ais" or "kopi o ais". We try to go to Chinese establishments as generally they make the best coffee, the Malays make the second best and the Indians make the worst. I took a young nephew to a new mall at Bukit Tingi between Kuala Lumpur and Port Kelang the other day and introduced him to tiramisu cake and iced cappuccino. He was horrified that my esspresso coffee cost 5 Ringit (AUD $1.50) as normally kopi costs between 1 and 1.30 Ringit. Has become addicted to tiramisu though. As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression though. My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have you around their little fingers. cheers, Peter |
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How do you like the tinted lenses? I've had a pair or two and however they tint the lenses always seems to give things a reddish glow. I didn't like them at all. Of course I'm cheap and had dyed plastic lenses. I usually get a light grey and have had no trouble. It's remembering where I put my glasses down that causes me no end of problems. Aboard Herodotus I always keep a spare pair near the chart table so that I can don them and find the glasses that I have only just put down. By the way, I've discovered the "Gravity" a news reader much like Agent but with better filtering. you can not only put people in the "Bozo Bin" but you can exclude posts containing any work, name or phrase in any part of the message. Not just the heading as Agent allows. I never see certain individuals, or even a reference to them, using the new reader. Thanks Bruce, I shall investigate. Sounds good. Nice to hear from you. I am trying to work out my movements. They say that the best time to head west from Curacao is September but not to reach the Marquesas before the end of March. Means a long time waiting and a longer time away from home. Thinking of visiting Cartegena in Colombia, diving in the San Blas touring Costa Rice but am yet undecided. It is not as much fun as touring by land on one's own. Due to its weight I left my copy of Cornell's routing guide on the boat. The joys of cruising and routing with due deference to weather systems. BTW, was spending some time staying with a best friend and his family in Selangor and zipping about the district and into town etc on 125 cc motorobikes and scooters. I had been reading the progress of a Korean man on a 49cc Honda Rucus from Charleston to Florida, across to Califormia and back across to the eastern seaboard, carrying all his gear on the bike. Upshot is that, after I return with Herodotus, friend will take some leave as we plan to travel from Singapore to Thailand, up through Burma, across to Cambodia and Laos and then the length of Vietnam. My son in Sydney (16) and friend's son (17) - good friends for years, also want to come as do 5 of said nephew's friends. Still at the early stages of planning but intend using mountain tents and camping along the way. I have started emailing Customs colleagues and friends in these countries, asking for their help and advice. Not sure when this will happen as need to do so in school holidays but want to do it while the boys are still young. Thus we may meet up with you yet (can we camp in your back yard - joking). They are all great kids. Where else in the world do you get a conversation like this one I had with my nephew when his younger siblings and parents were away for a few days, leaving only me, the maid and his bed-ridden grandmother in the house. (Most Malay and Chinese kids I know are not used to sleeping in a room on their own) "Uncle?" "Yes Faiz" "Can I sleep with you tonight?" "Why? Are you afraid of the dark?" "No, of course not!" (trying to sound adult) "You're scared of ghosts aren't you?" Head shakes agreement. "OK then, get into bed" Same kid and his friends cart me off on the back of their motorbikes to watch them play indoor soccer and even buy me coffee afterwards. My own wouldn't be seen dead with their parents shopping. I love these kids. As the Malays say "Children are the sunshine of our lives" cheers Peter |
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For most small/recreational boaters, the term "Captain" only comes into
play when the crap hits the fan and you are describing the "person in charge". Many small/recreational boaters and Captains of small commercial vessels, of long standing, are rightfully addressed as "Captain". Most professional mariners of any size vessel, only require the title by crew or those directly assoiated with their vessel's operation.....but this is not hard and fast for all sizees of vessel. I've never required that anyone call me "Captain", but Gawd help the stupid SOB who called me by name if he/she was crew aboard a vessel that I was the Master of, under my license. Ashore, I never introduce myself as Captain SoandSo, unless I am in a professional capacity or trying to intimidate/impress/cajol. At any rate, many people call me "Captain" sometimes, others at all times, and others, never......not all that important, as I generally take into consideration the person, conditions, and state of my ego for the given situation. Just NEVER call me "Skipper"...that's a military term that has it's justification within the military, but as far as I'm concerned, it's the ultimate insult in the civilian world of professional mariners!!! |
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Herodotus wrote in
: Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. WHOA! My captain, Geoffrey, who owns the Amel 41, handed me a nicely made, embroidered ballcap that said "Captain Larry" across it with the boat's own logo to show his appreciation for all the work I've helped put into her. I told him, tongue in cheek, he was just looking for someone to blame if there were a prosecution....(c; When they call me "captain", I always tell them my title is "3rd Mate, Deck and Engineering".....and I can't be blamed, your honor! "I was just following cap'n's orders, your grace!" If there's any more question, I show them my little bunk in the V-berth over the forward air conditioner unit. Owner/Captains all sleep in the spacious aft cabin...(c; When it's broken, however, you'll find both of us in the bilge fixing it. |
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: I've always considered the use of the term to be rather pretentious, excepting, of course the captain of anything over 100 feet and the only time I use the title is when signing paperwork when clearing into or out of a port. Actually on my license it says "Master", not captain.....One's ego gets a great boost when they call you "Master". I used to date this strange woman who got all excited calling me "Master", especially in public. That usually lead to some great nights with little sleep...(c; Next time someone calls you "captain", show them the license and say, "I prefer 'Master.'" Watch the look on their faces....hee hee. "Yes, Master!" Has such a nice ring to it...even if she doesn't really mean it...(c; |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:20:10 +0000, Larry wrote:
Actually on my license it says "Master", not captain.....One's ego gets a great boost when they call you "Master". I used to date this strange woman who got all excited calling me "Master", especially in public. That usually lead to some great nights with little sleep...(c; Next time someone calls you "captain", show them the license and say, "I prefer 'Master.'" Watch the look on their faces....hee hee. "Yes, Master!" Has such a nice ring to it...even if she doesn't really mean it...(c; Larry, I suspect a dark side to your nature. Does it involve leather boots, whips, Nazi uniforms, hand-cuffs and French maid's outfits? cheers Peter |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:38:13 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:06:37 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: Nice to hear your cheery voice again Vic. Yes, I drink my coffee black but sometimes with friends in the city may have a macciato or piccolo as a long black takes a while to cool enough to drink and a short black goes too quickly. In Oztralia, a long black is one shot of espresso in a standard cup topped up with hot water (dopio is two shots). However at home in Malaysia I surrender to my perversions and have black coffee asian style (hot water poured through a gauze funnel) with at least half an inch of sweetened condensed milk in the bottom - called "kopi panas" (hot coffee). Without the milk it is "kopi o" and iced coffee is "kopi ais" or "kopi o ais". We try to go to Chinese establishments as generally they make the best coffee, the Malays make the second best and the Indians make the worst. I took a young nephew to a new mall at Bukit Tingi between Kuala Lumpur and Port Kelang the other day and introduced him to tiramisu cake and iced cappuccino. He was horrified that my esspresso coffee cost 5 Ringit (AUD $1.50) as normally kopi costs between 1 and 1.30 Ringit. Has become addicted to tiramisu though. Perhaps a bit more than I wanted there, since you've managed to make me a bit jealous of your coffee experiences. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. But I did ask. Thank you for your response. As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression though. My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have you around their little fingers. cheers, I thought I made clear my understanding of all that but perhaps I was too subtle, forgetting I was speaking to somebody probably hopped up on caffeine, and coiled to jump at conclusions. In any case thanks for the reminder. Cheers to you Cap (Coffee Admiral Peter.) --Vic |
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On 2008-08-22 05:30:44 -0400, Vic Smith said:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:38:13 +1000, Herodotus As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression though. My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have you around their little fingers. cheers, I thought I made clear my understanding of all that but perhaps I was too subtle, forgetting I was speaking to somebody probably hopped up on caffeine, and coiled to jump at conclusions. In any case thanks for the reminder. Cheers to you Cap (Coffee Admiral Peter.) If you look at his header, he was writing in the morning, his local time. But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning? It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter that *must* go out a few hours from now. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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On 21 Aug 2008 20:00:02 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:55:57 -0400, said: "Captain", outside of the military, and in some business transactions, is an honorific to be used by others to address you, not a prefix you use yourself, unless it is in the course of conducting business where knowing that you hold a Captain license is pertinent. S'pose Bobsprit is listening? Bobsprit is a fictitious character created for usenet by Robert Brody. I'm sure he uses the apellation "Captain" here entirely because it irritates those who take themselves too seriously. He does it for fun. Bobsprit, for all we know, also wears an eyepatch and has a peg-leg. Whatever his creator decides to do to "flesh him out". It can even change over time. Compare the original Mickey Mouse to the one depicted today. They have little in common other than the name, and the base concept of a mouse who talks. |
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On Aug 21, 12:56 am, Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics at sea etc. It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other. Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of their names. I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or "Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked up from 3rd mate to command. Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous. Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain" emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet? If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong and songkok for authenticity. Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get your face away from your coffee cup. BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures, top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair - same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are made in Japan with sprung hinges. My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his women but he wanted too much for each of them. Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses. It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl. cheers Peter Got a UML didn't get Capt. the only time i get called capt is from the 4 to 8 year olds. (they seem to think its cool) I have never used or asked any one to use the term and the only job I've ever had that introduced me as such i quit. (i hate white shorts and shoulder boards) if you are my crew my first name or skipper will work. if you are the kneedeeps (cg) skipper works. if you are one of my preschoolers or kinda garden kids and are on the boat with me almost anything will work. if you are some person on another boat my boat name works and if you are onshore i am Mr. or if you know me well my first name. if you call me Capt then i assume that you are a zero (officer) and as such have never done a days work in your life. therefor you will get no respect from me. |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:17 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:
But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning? It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter that *must* go out a few hours from now. My wife gets up at 4:15 every morning to prepare for work, and sometimes I get up with her if I stir enough to smell the coffee. But in this case I was up all night playing a video game, and checked here when I tired of it. I'm retired and have no "hours." So coffee makes anything possible. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:17 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning? It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter that *must* go out a few hours from now. My wife gets up at 4:15 every morning to prepare for work, and sometimes I get up with her if I stir enough to smell the coffee. But in this case I was up all night playing a video game, and checked here when I tired of it. I'm retired and have no "hours." So coffee makes anything possible. --Vic It's nice to be retired but don't make the mistake of having nothing interesting (and video games don't qualify) enough to give your life some structure and meaning. A large part of any retired man's life should be an activity that keeps him in prime physical condition. Sailing is OK for passing the time but it is not physical enough to keep a retired person in decent shape. You need to be running, swimming, cycling, hiking, climbing or some other activity that burns two or three thousand calories a day. Otherwise you're going to get fat, you will get diseases like diabetes and hypertension associated with fat and you will feel and look old and die young. Don't let your retirement kill you. Get off your lazy, worthless, video gaming arse and get in shape. I speak from experience. I am an example of which I speak. Just did a personal best last week-end in a 40K Individual Time Trial (cycling) of 62 minutes, 34.45 seconds. Did a personal best in a 16K ITT last month of 23 minutes 42.16 sec. Combine the racing with training 200-300 miles a week. (over 11,000 miles total last year and on the same pace this year) and you will feel years younger both physically and mentally. If you don't use it you'll lose it. Now, get with the program, dude! Wilbur Hubbard |
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Don't let your retirement kill you. Get off your lazy, worthless, video gaming arse and get in shape. If you don't use it you'll lose it. *Now, get with the program, dude! Wilbur Hubbard Willbur Seaks the truth.! I tore the menscus in my knee from too muc hill work had surgury and layed off running for seven months to recover. I had a blast of self idulgment. I ate pizza, choc chips, fries and all sorts of ****. I gained 18 pounds and now find myself soft and jiggle when I walk. I cant stand it. My knee is now sound and Ive started back exercizing. It should take about three months to shed to fat. However I will NEVER make the claim that I have the back of a 30 year old in an attempt to decieve my pudgy ass as some do here .......... Folly Its all about time at exercize heart rate. I usuall go for 45 min @ 160 bpm 4/week. That gives me a resting heart rate of 56 bpm. When I was in my 40s and trained harder it was 48 bpm. Use it or lose it ! Follow Willburs advice. Fat ass bob about to be fast ass Bob, Arrgg! |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:59:26 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:17 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning? It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter that *must* go out a few hours from now. My wife gets up at 4:15 every morning to prepare for work, and sometimes I get up with her if I stir enough to smell the coffee. But in this case I was up all night playing a video game, and checked here when I tired of it. I'm retired and have no "hours." So coffee makes anything possible. --Vic It's nice to be retired but don't make the mistake of having nothing interesting (and video games don't qualify) enough to give your life some structure and meaning. A large part of any retired man's life should be an activity that keeps him in prime physical condition. Sailing is OK for passing the time but it is not physical enough to keep a retired person in decent shape. You need to be running, swimming, cycling, hiking, climbing or some other activity that burns two or three thousand calories a day. Otherwise you're going to get fat, you will get diseases like diabetes and hypertension associated with fat and you will feel and look old and die young. Don't let your retirement kill you. Get off your lazy, worthless, video gaming arse and get in shape. I speak from experience. I am an example of which I speak. Just did a personal best last week-end in a 40K Individual Time Trial (cycling) of 62 minutes, 34.45 seconds. Did a personal best in a 16K ITT last month of 23 minutes 42.16 sec. Combine the racing with training 200-300 miles a week. (over 11,000 miles total last year and on the same pace this year) and you will feel years younger both physically and mentally. If you don't use it you'll lose it. Now, get with the program, dude! Good advice. I was always a manly man, and now if my wife tosses me a roll of paper towels, I pull a muscle when I catch it. I will immediately begin a physical fitness regimen. A good start will be a heavier coffee cup, and then go on from there. Seriously, I do appreciate your concern and will get my ass moving. Tomorrow. I promise. --Vic |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:59:26 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:17 GMT, Jere Lull wrote: But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning? It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter that *must* go out a few hours from now. My wife gets up at 4:15 every morning to prepare for work, and sometimes I get up with her if I stir enough to smell the coffee. But in this case I was up all night playing a video game, and checked here when I tired of it. I'm retired and have no "hours." So coffee makes anything possible. --Vic It's nice to be retired but don't make the mistake of having nothing interesting (and video games don't qualify) enough to give your life some structure and meaning. A large part of any retired man's life should be an activity that keeps him in prime physical condition. Sailing is OK for passing the time but it is not physical enough to keep a retired person in decent shape. You need to be running, swimming, cycling, hiking, climbing or some other activity that burns two or three thousand calories a day. Otherwise you're going to get fat, you will get diseases like diabetes and hypertension associated with fat and you will feel and look old and die young. Don't let your retirement kill you. Get off your lazy, worthless, video gaming arse and get in shape. I speak from experience. I am an example of which I speak. Just did a personal best last week-end in a 40K Individual Time Trial (cycling) of 62 minutes, 34.45 seconds. Did a personal best in a 16K ITT last month of 23 minutes 42.16 sec. Combine the racing with training 200-300 miles a week. (over 11,000 miles total last year and on the same pace this year) and you will feel years younger both physically and mentally. If you don't use it you'll lose it. Now, get with the program, dude! Wilbur Hubbard Exactly. You don't use good sense and now, as you daily demonstrate, you've lost it. ****head! |
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Herodotus wrote in
: Does it involve leather boots, whips, Nazi uniforms, hand-cuffs and French maid's outfits? hmmmmmmm.......(c; Have you ever been physically restrained in the presence of one or more horny females? Try it sometime.....(c; Maddening! |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:40:41 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: Good advice. I was always a manly man, and now if my wife tosses me a roll of paper towels, I pull a muscle when I catch it. I will immediately begin a physical fitness regimen. A good start will be a heavier coffee cup, and then go on from there. Seriously, I do appreciate your concern and will get my ass moving. Tomorrow. I promise. --Vic Hi Vic, Tell them to "stuff off". I quite like you the way you are. Besides, I spend much of my sailing hours lying down on deck relaxing or reading and only getting up every now and then to check for shipping. Prone is the way to go. cheers Peter |
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Herodotus wrote in
: Tell them to "stuff off". Hey! That's not how Billy Connolly says it!.....(c; http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ch_type=&a q= 5&oq=Billy |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:06:31 +0000, Larry wrote:
Herodotus wrote in : Tell them to "stuff off". Hey! That's not how Billy Connolly says it!.....(c; http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ch_type=&a q= 5&oq=Billy I was trying my best to appear cultured and sophisticated, Larry. cheers Peter |
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"Herodotus" wrote in message ... I was trying my best to appear cultured and sophisticated, Larry. That would be just about as futile as Bruce at the Bangkok Dock (for over 30 years) trying to appear to be a voyager. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Herodotus wrote in
: I was trying my best to appear cultured and sophisticated, Larry. cheers Peter Oh, like they do at the yacht club BEFORE they get drunk....I see. |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:03:03 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Herodotus" wrote in message .. . I was trying my best to appear cultured and sophisticated, Larry. That would be just about as futile as Bruce at the Bangkok Dock (for over 30 years) trying to appear to be a voyager. Wilbur Hubbard Hey! Bicycle Boy. have you ever seen a boat? |
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