I thought this deserved another thread, even though the "headsail furler" is
surprisingly civil so far.

We all know (I hope) about giving the furled sail a couple of extra wraps
with the jib sheets, but do you go further? I seem to recall someone (more
than one) tying off the sail with an extra line, but I wondered at the time
how one gets up high enough to make that effective.

I use a shackle on the drum of my Schaefer. Anyone else?

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....31504561647202

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:22:25 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I thought this deserved another thread, even though the "headsail furler" is
surprisingly civil so far.

We all know (I hope) about giving the furled sail a couple of extra wraps
with the jib sheets, but do you go further? I seem to recall someone (more
than one) tying off the sail with an extra line, but I wondered at the time
how one gets up high enough to make that effective.

I use a shackle on the drum of my Schaefer. Anyone else?

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....31504561647202

I use a sail tie, which I place as high as I can reach, and make a
series of half hitches going down.

The ones that kill me are the sailors who apparently think it looks
sporty to leave the last little bit of sail sticking out. Maybe they
imagine it's going to keep them from sailing around at anchor?

I just see it as an invitation to needing a new sail made.

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:22:25 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I thought this deserved another thread, even though the "headsail furler"
is
surprisingly civil so far.

We all know (I hope) about giving the furled sail a couple of extra wraps
with the jib sheets, but do you go further? I seem to recall someone (more
than one) tying off the sail with an extra line, but I wondered at the
time
how one gets up high enough to make that effective.

I use a shackle on the drum of my Schaefer. Anyone else?

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....31504561647202

I use a sail tie, which I place as high as I can reach, and make a
series of half hitches going down.

The ones that kill me are the sailors who apparently think it looks
sporty to leave the last little bit of sail sticking out. Maybe they
imagine it's going to keep them from sailing around at anchor?

I just see it as an invitation to needing a new sail made.



Yeah, they don't have a clew, eventually. LOL


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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:33:40 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:22:25 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I thought this deserved another thread, even though the "headsail furler"
is
surprisingly civil so far.

We all know (I hope) about giving the furled sail a couple of extra wraps
with the jib sheets, but do you go further? I seem to recall someone (more
than one) tying off the sail with an extra line, but I wondered at the
time
how one gets up high enough to make that effective.

I use a shackle on the drum of my Schaefer. Anyone else?

http://picasaweb.google.com/SailNOW....31504561647202

I use a sail tie, which I place as high as I can reach, and make a
series of half hitches going down.

The ones that kill me are the sailors who apparently think it looks
sporty to leave the last little bit of sail sticking out. Maybe they
imagine it's going to keep them from sailing around at anchor?

I just see it as an invitation to needing a new sail made.



Yeah, they don't have a clew, eventually. LOL

funny.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
I thought this deserved another thread, even though the "headsail furler"
is surprisingly civil so far.

We all know (I hope) about giving the furled sail a couple of extra wraps
with the jib sheets, but do you go further? I seem to recall someone (more
than one) tying off the sail with an extra line, but I wondered at the
time how one gets up high enough to make that effective.

I use a shackle on the drum of my Schaefer. Anyone else?

I do not see the problem. Like you, I give the sail a couple of extra wraps
of the sheets when it is fully rolled and then make the furling line fast
onto a cleat which is there for that purpose.
Why do you think you need to do more?

"Edgar" wrote

Why do you think you need to do more?

Because I've seen the mess when a sail has come unrolled at the dock and
also on a mooring. I depend on the wraps normally but put a sail tie on for
heavy weather or when leaving the boat for a long period. I'ts more of a
peace of mind thing than a significant hazard but it keeps me from seeing
those scenes in my mind when I wake up in the middle of the night.

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Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote

Why do you think you need to do more?

Because I've seen the mess when a sail has come unrolled at the dock and
also on a mooring. I depend on the wraps normally but put a sail tie on
for heavy weather or when leaving the boat for a long period. I'ts more
of a peace of mind thing than a significant hazard but it keeps me from
seeing those scenes in my mind when I wake up in the middle of the night.

--
Roger Long



There was a boat in the same row as mine that shredded a jib during a storm
last winter. I don't want to repeat that.

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On Aug 12, 3:01 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote

Why do you think you need to do more?

Because I've seen the mess when a sail has come unrolled at the dock and
also on a mooring. I depend on the wraps normally but put a sail tie on for
heavy weather or when leaving the boat for a long period. I'ts more of a
peace of mind thing than a significant hazard but it keeps me from seeing
those scenes in my mind when I wake up in the middle of the night.

--
Roger Long

I still use the old style hank on sails..yes they can be a mess..but
very simple and has worked for a long time.

On Aug 12, 12:01 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote

Why do you think you need to do more?

Because I've seen the mess when a sail has come unrolled at the dock and
also on a mooring. I depend on the wraps normally but put a sail tie on for
heavy weather or when leaving the boat for a long period. ...

A sister "ship" (boat) of ours was lost when the upper section of jib
unfurled and caused them to drag anchor. I take the jib off when I'm
not going to go sailing for a couple of days. It lasts a lot longer
and would have to crawl back on deck and get itself out of its bag to
do any harm. I don't understand why folks leave the jibs bent on when
they are away from the boat or expecting heavy weather.

-- Tom.

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On Aug 12, 12:01 pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
"Edgar" wrote

Why do you think you need to do more?

Because I've seen the mess when a sail has come unrolled at the dock and
also on a mooring. I depend on the wraps normally but put a sail tie on
for
heavy weather or when leaving the boat for a long period. ...

A sister "ship" (boat) of ours was lost when the upper section of jib
unfurled and caused them to drag anchor. I take the jib off when I'm
not going to go sailing for a couple of days. It lasts a lot longer
and would have to crawl back on deck and get itself out of its bag to
do any harm. I don't understand why folks leave the jibs bent on when
they are away from the boat or expecting heavy weather.

-- Tom.

I am amazed that even here in a Norwegian winter some owners just have their
boats hauled and simply leave the jib rolled up all winter just as they left
it last time they sailed.