On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:58:36 -0700, in message
lutions
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:02:14 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Well, basically, if the line should come off the cleat, then the sail will
unfurl and flog itself to death.

I generally cleat off both sheets fairly tight. Then as Roger says, if I'm
expecting a storm or will be gone for a long time I'll add a separate tie
around the sail.


I do, but not around the winch. You need to keep in mind that the fairly
hefty sheets are in opposition to a fairly light furling line, so I wouldn't
over tighten.

I cleat the furling line, then tension the sheets around the winch by
hand. Using a winch handle could overstress things, but hand tight on
a winch is the same as hand tight to a cleat. I don't think I have any
line on board that I could overload by hand.

Ryk

"Ryk" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:58:36 -0700, in message
lutions
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:02:14 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Well, basically, if the line should come off the cleat, then the sail
will
unfurl and flog itself to death.

I generally cleat off both sheets fairly tight. Then as Roger says, if
I'm
expecting a storm or will be gone for a long time I'll add a separate
tie
around the sail.


I do, but not around the winch. You need to keep in mind that the fairly
hefty sheets are in opposition to a fairly light furling line, so I
wouldn't
over tighten.

I cleat the furling line, then tension the sheets around the winch by
hand. Using a winch handle could overstress things, but hand tight on
a winch is the same as hand tight to a cleat. I don't think I have any
line on board that I could overload by hand.

Ryk



I don't like putting stress on a winch if I don't need to. Perhaps that's
just me.

I think I could probably overstress the jib sheets around the winch if I put
my back into it, but that would be foolish. There is a difference in the
size of the line, and it seems to me that just by weight there would be more
pressure from the jib sheet side.


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On 12 Aug 2008 18:10:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:02:14 -0700, "Capt. JG" said:

Well, basically, if the line should come off the cleat, then the sail will
unfurl and flog itself to death.

I generally cleat off both sheets fairly tight. Then as Roger says, if I'm
expecting a storm or will be gone for a long time I'll add a separate tie
around the sail.

I add the sail tie whenever I "stop" anywhere. That way, it's part of
the routine, and I don't forget it. That also means I don't forget to
untie it before taking off, which could be a real inconvenience at
times, especially when single-handing.