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Subject: Coast Guard Inspections

Are you aware of all the thousands of legal immigrants who were
recently arrested and jailed for many months, without any charges, and
then released?

Are you aware of all the thousands of illegal immigrants that think they are
entitled to drivers licenses and social services. Why isn't immigration at the
drivers license bureau.

Dennis

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In article ,
pamdump says...


Subject: Coast Guard Inspections

Are you aware of all the thousands of legal immigrants who were
recently arrested and jailed for many months, without any charges, and
then released?

Are you aware of all the thousands of illegal immigrants that think they are
entitled to drivers licenses and social services. Why isn't immigration at the
drivers license bureau.

Are you aware that a driver's license has nothing to do with driving? A
driver's license should be nothing more than a certificate of competence, as it
is in much or Europe. In this country it is a means of the state keeeping
control of the populace and the best argument against licensing of boat owners.

There is no reason why anyone who has demonstrated driving competence should
not have a license and no reason why that license should be connected to one's
social security number. It's a state scam aimed at increasing revenues and
controlling the people.

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In article ,
pamdump says...


Subject: Coast Guard Inspections

Are you aware of all the thousands of legal immigrants who were
recently arrested and jailed for many months, without any charges, and
then released?

Are you aware of all the thousands of illegal immigrants that think they are
entitled to drivers licenses and social services. Why isn't immigration at the
drivers license bureau.

Are you aware that a driver's license has nothing to do with driving? A
driver's license should be nothing more than a certificate of competence, as it
is in much or Europe. In this country it is a means of the state keeeping
control of the populace and the best argument against licensing of boat owners.

There is no reason why anyone who has demonstrated driving competence should
not have a license and no reason why that license should be connected to one's
social security number. It's a state scam aimed at increasing revenues and
controlling the people.

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May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

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May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:59:10 -0400, Gogarty
wrote (with possible editing):

....snip

Law enforcement routinely flouts all of these. But the Fourth Amendment in
particular has been a dead letter for many years, shot through with Supreme
Court exceptions.

Up until Ashcroft, LEA had to have probable cause and an order signed
by a judge. Granted, law enforcement abused the privilege, but now,
even judicial oversight is gone.
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:59:10 -0400, Gogarty
wrote (with possible editing):

....snip

Law enforcement routinely flouts all of these. But the Fourth Amendment in
particular has been a dead letter for many years, shot through with Supreme
Court exceptions.

Up until Ashcroft, LEA had to have probable cause and an order signed
by a judge. Granted, law enforcement abused the privilege, but now,
even judicial oversight is gone.
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

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In article , "Scott Vernon" wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

And apparently not of Arabic descent either.

Many of those held without bail or legal representation were freed after weeks
or months in jail after being "cleared" of any crime.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because
I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I
didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that
time no one was left to speak up."

Written by Martin Niemöller(1892-1984)



"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

In article , "Scott Vernon" wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

And apparently not of Arabic descent either.

Many of those held without bail or legal representation were freed after weeks
or months in jail after being "cleared" of any crime.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because
I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I
didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that
time no one was left to speak up."

Written by Martin Niemöller(1892-1984)



"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gogarty wrote:

You are in a boat you are fair game for LEA, anytime, anyplace.

Actually, the above is not quite correct. You are only "Fair Game"
for the USCG, and not from just any LEA. You may refuse any local,
State, or Federal LEO, to board your vessel without a Warrent. The only
exception, besides USCG, would be a US Marshal. When ever I needed
to board a vessel without the skippers permission (FCC Field Agent)
I had to go get a USCG Officer/NonCom, or the local US Marshal, and use
their authority to conduct my investigation. Only happened a few times
while I was a Fed.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gogarty wrote:

You are in a boat you are fair game for LEA, anytime, anyplace.

Actually, the above is not quite correct. You are only "Fair Game"
for the USCG, and not from just any LEA. You may refuse any local,
State, or Federal LEO, to board your vessel without a Warrent. The only
exception, besides USCG, would be a US Marshal. When ever I needed
to board a vessel without the skippers permission (FCC Field Agent)
I had to go get a USCG Officer/NonCom, or the local US Marshal, and use
their authority to conduct my investigation. Only happened a few times
while I was a Fed.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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Scott,
I'm quite sure you aren't a criminal, at least I'll give you the benefit
of the doubt. :-) So would you mind having your car, boat, home searched?
After all you have nothing to hide. Some people think there is nothing wrong
with this, after all it will catch the criminals. BTW have you exceeded the
speed limit? Well if you did, even if only by one mile per hour, aren't you
now a criminal? I'm old enough to remember a guy in Texas about 30 years ago
getting 10 years in prison for possession of one joint of weed. How big a
threat was he to society? I'd heard an phrase that says, power corrupts,
absolute power corrupts absolutely, I'm just against giving more power to
the government to intrude into our privacy. Now I understand their need to
combat terrorism but it's like a band wagon that a lot of law enforcement
officials want to get on, they look at it as a cart blanch. IMHO
Paul

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

Scott,
I'm quite sure you aren't a criminal, at least I'll give you the benefit
of the doubt. :-) So would you mind having your car, boat, home searched?
After all you have nothing to hide. Some people think there is nothing wrong
with this, after all it will catch the criminals. BTW have you exceeded the
speed limit? Well if you did, even if only by one mile per hour, aren't you
now a criminal? I'm old enough to remember a guy in Texas about 30 years ago
getting 10 years in prison for possession of one joint of weed. How big a
threat was he to society? I'd heard an phrase that says, power corrupts,
absolute power corrupts absolutely, I'm just against giving more power to
the government to intrude into our privacy. Now I understand their need to
combat terrorism but it's like a band wagon that a lot of law enforcement
officials want to get on, they look at it as a cart blanch. IMHO
Paul

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

Scott Vernon wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

As I understand it, there is no way to find out why I am on the list and
there is no way to get off it.

OTOH, it can have an advantage. In Seattle, because the ticket agent
called the cops before I entered the line for normal security, I
actually made it to the airplane before the other people in my group.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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Scott Vernon wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

As I understand it, there is no way to find out why I am on the list and
there is no way to get off it.

OTOH, it can have an advantage. In Seattle, because the ticket agent
called the cops before I entered the line for normal security, I
actually made it to the airplane before the other people in my group.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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My wife has had her luggage searched nearly every time she travels on
business. A TSA employee told her that it is probably because someone
else purchased her ticket for her (her employer!).

Having traveled a lot on business in the past, I'm scratching my head
over this one, because every company I've worked for has purchased the
airline tickets for business travel. Are they _really_ searching most
business travelers luggage?


Don W.


Glenn Ashmore wrote:

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

As I understand it, there is no way to find out why I am on the list and
there is no way to get off it.

OTOH, it can have an advantage. In Seattle, because the ticket agent
called the cops before I entered the line for normal security, I
actually made it to the airplane before the other people in my group.

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My wife has had her luggage searched nearly every time she travels on
business. A TSA employee told her that it is probably because someone
else purchased her ticket for her (her employer!).

Having traveled a lot on business in the past, I'm scratching my head
over this one, because every company I've worked for has purchased the
airline tickets for business travel. Are they _really_ searching most
business travelers luggage?


Don W.


Glenn Ashmore wrote:

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

As I understand it, there is no way to find out why I am on the list and
there is no way to get off it.

OTOH, it can have an advantage. In Seattle, because the ticket agent
called the cops before I entered the line for normal security, I
actually made it to the airplane before the other people in my group.

Coast Guard Inspections - how about a war on stupidity - but where to find a leader?
 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:01:34 GMT, (Paul Revere)
wrote:

In article , "Scott Vernon" wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

And apparently not of Arabic descent either.

Many of those held without bail or legal representation were freed after weeks
or months in jail after being "cleared" of any crime.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because
I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I
didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that
time no one was left to speak up."

Written by Martin Niemöller(1892-1984)



"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections - how about a war on stupidity - but where to find a leader?
 

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:01:34 GMT, (Paul Revere)
wrote:

In article , "Scott Vernon" wrote:
May be, but I have yet to notice any difference in my life. But then, I'm
not a criminal.

SV

And apparently not of Arabic descent either.

Many of those held without bail or legal representation were freed after weeks
or months in jail after being "cleared" of any crime.

"In Germany they came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I
wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because
I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics and I
didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that
time no one was left to speak up."

Written by Martin Niemöller(1892-1984)



"Paul Revere" wrote



A number of rights have been systematically violated in the name of the
"war
on drugs" but because the "war on terror" scares more people, public
support
for systematic violations of rights has more popular support.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

In article , To wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:47:16 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

You might want to check the vote on the Patriot Act.

For some odd reason, many people think that John Ashcroft made it up.

Its true.

A majority of Senators and Congressmen from both parties voted for the
Patriot Act, however many of these same people now claim Ashcroft is employing
his new power in ways they never anticipated or intended.

This is what is behind the move to reject renewal of the Act or to at least
amend it.

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In article , To wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:47:16 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

I do not believe I am a criminal either but apparently Mr. Ashcroft
feels that someone with my name may be. Even though I am a Delta
Medalion flyer, over the past 6 months I have been pulled out of line by
airport security for "special" search four times. Once accompanied by
two policemen. A ticket agent finally told me that my name is on the
National "No-Fly" list and that I should expect to be watched and
subjected to additional searches any time I fly.

You might want to check the vote on the Patriot Act.

For some odd reason, many people think that John Ashcroft made it up.

Its true.

A majority of Senators and Congressmen from both parties voted for the
Patriot Act, however many of these same people now claim Ashcroft is employing
his new power in ways they never anticipated or intended.

This is what is behind the move to reject renewal of the Act or to at least
amend it.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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I have been told that U.S. Customs agents and the U.S. Coast Guard can board
any American flagged vessel or any vessel in U.S. waters without probable
cause. The (Massachusetts) state police (and even some harbormasters) claim
they too can board any vessel without probable cause because they are
"deputized" by U.S. Customs.

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

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I have been told that U.S. Customs agents and the U.S. Coast Guard can board
any American flagged vessel or any vessel in U.S. waters without probable
cause. The (Massachusetts) state police (and even some harbormasters) claim
they too can board any vessel without probable cause because they are
"deputized" by U.S. Customs.

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

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"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.


Not true.

The US Coast Guard can board any boat any time for whatever reason they wish
to. I have been stopped and boarded inside the San Francisco bay, and my
boat (power) does not have the range to make it outside of US waters.

In my case, they just came aboard, checked my registration papers and peeked
into the cabin. Very polite and courteous and I was on my way again in just
a few minutes.

Rod

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"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.


Not true.

The US Coast Guard can board any boat any time for whatever reason they wish
to. I have been stopped and boarded inside the San Francisco bay, and my
boat (power) does not have the range to make it outside of US waters.

In my case, they just came aboard, checked my registration papers and peeked
into the cabin. Very polite and courteous and I was on my way again in just
a few minutes.

Rod

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In article ,
"Rod McInnis" wrote:

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.


Not true.

The US Coast Guard can board any boat any time for whatever reason they wish
to. I have been stopped and boarded inside the San Francisco bay, and my
boat (power) does not have the range to make it outside of US waters.

In my case, they just came aboard, checked my registration papers and peeked
into the cabin. Very polite and courteous and I was on my way again in just
a few minutes.

Rod



I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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In article ,
"Rod McInnis" wrote:

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.


Not true.

The US Coast Guard can board any boat any time for whatever reason they wish
to. I have been stopped and boarded inside the San Francisco bay, and my
boat (power) does not have the range to make it outside of US waters.

In my case, they just came aboard, checked my registration papers and peeked
into the cabin. Very polite and courteous and I was on my way again in just
a few minutes.

Rod



I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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In article ,
(Capt Lou) wrote:

The (Massachusetts) state police (and even some harbormasters) claim
they too can board any vessel without probable cause because they are
"deputized" by U.S. Customs.

All kinds of LEO's CLAIM that they can do this and that, but the LAW
is very clear on these points. US Flagged Vessels can only be boarded
against the skippers wishes by USCG and US Marshals. The point can
be debated, at the point of a gun, but in Court, after you spent your
jailtime waiting for trial, the LAW will prevail. Most LEO's understand
this, and get a USCG Officer/Noncom to accompany any boarding, or get
one of the local US Marshals to go along. When I was a FED, (FCC)
this was SOP for us when we were refused boarding. I remeber an incident
down in Grays Harbor, WA, where one of my fellow Agents wanted to inspect
a local charterboat, and the skipper refused to allow him to board. He
went down to the local USCG Lifeboat Detachment, and got the CPO, to
mount a Boarding Party with M60's and Tompson's and returned to the
charterboat, boarded and found 50Kg of dope stuffed under a bunk.
Our guy busted him for an expired SOLAS Certificate, but the USCG
took the boat and the guy got 20 Years in the Federal Slam for Drug
Running.

Bruce in alaska who recognizes that LEO's LIE all the time about
what they can do.........
--
add a 2 before @

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In article ,
(Capt Lou) wrote:

The (Massachusetts) state police (and even some harbormasters) claim
they too can board any vessel without probable cause because they are
"deputized" by U.S. Customs.

All kinds of LEO's CLAIM that they can do this and that, but the LAW
is very clear on these points. US Flagged Vessels can only be boarded
against the skippers wishes by USCG and US Marshals. The point can
be debated, at the point of a gun, but in Court, after you spent your
jailtime waiting for trial, the LAW will prevail. Most LEO's understand
this, and get a USCG Officer/Noncom to accompany any boarding, or get
one of the local US Marshals to go along. When I was a FED, (FCC)
this was SOP for us when we were refused boarding. I remeber an incident
down in Grays Harbor, WA, where one of my fellow Agents wanted to inspect
a local charterboat, and the skipper refused to allow him to board. He
went down to the local USCG Lifeboat Detachment, and got the CPO, to
mount a Boarding Party with M60's and Tompson's and returned to the
charterboat, boarded and found 50Kg of dope stuffed under a bunk.
Our guy busted him for an expired SOLAS Certificate, but the USCG
took the boat and the guy got 20 Years in the Federal Slam for Drug
Running.

Bruce in alaska who recognizes that LEO's LIE all the time about
what they can do.........
--
add a 2 before @

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Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it empties
into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very easy to be in
Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats as they were loaded
onto their trailers. From what I've heard this isn't a common occurrence.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and
then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
--
add a 2 before @

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Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it empties
into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very easy to be in
Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats as they were loaded
onto their trailers. From what I've heard this isn't a common occurrence.
Paul

"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Bruce,
I believe the U.S. Customs can also board without probable cause. I
understand that if you have a trailer boat they can follow you home and
then
search the home. Customs has a lot of power.
Paul

Not sure about Customs, if you didn't leave US Waters. I suspect that
if you "cleared customs" that they then would need a Warrent for any
further inspection. If you didn't leave US Waters then they would
need "Cause" to board you, I think.

Bruce in alaska
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
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Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the bucket.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the bucket.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

Larry,
You're right, it'll be another chapter in "the war on drugs"
Paul

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the
bucket.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

Larry,
You're right, it'll be another chapter in "the war on drugs"
Paul

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in
:

Bruce,
I boat in Lake St.Clair, Michigan. The lake is half owned by
Canada, in
fact the river that feeds it (St. Clair River) and the river that it
empties into (Detroit River) are both shared with Canada, so it's very
easy to be in Canadian waters. I've heard of Customs inspecting boats
as they were loaded onto their trailers. From what I've heard this
isn't a common occurrence. Paul


As soon as the US drug manufacturer *******s can buy off your congressman,
mandatory inspections for cheaper Canadian-sourced prescriptions will
become more important than the length and weight of the fish in the
bucket.

Coast Guard Inspections
 

"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

Rod

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"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

Rod

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In article ,
says...



"
I was speaking about US Customs Officers in the above, not USCG personel.


The Coast Guard is the marine enforcement unit for the US Customs office.
At times of war the USCG reports to the Navy, but otherwise they report to
the Customs office.

No. They report to the Department of Homeland Security (what a great Nazi
name). They used to report to the Treasury Department hence the connection
with Customs. But that was before they became part of the Department of
Transportation.