You know? I find this thread very strange as it consists mainly of one
individual sailing down east and a multitude of others sitting at home
snipping at him.

Certainly Skip is a new sailor, but so what? He is still afloat and
sailing. In fact it sounds like he is having a ball. I wonder how many
of the "Perfect Sailors" who spend their time sniping can truly say
that they have made ocean voyages and never made a mistake or done any
thing that was stupid in retrospect? Probably none, if they don't lie.

I'm not going to preach that everyone should stop sniping but while
you are sitting there posting your rants try to remember, Skip is out
there sailing and you are sitting at home, so who is the Cruiser and
who is the fool?

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

Hear hear.

Their incredible roster of deficiencies is primarily a function of their
openess, complete reporting, and the dynamics of this newsgroup. I doubt
that many now experienced long distance cruisers did as well on their first
long passage.

I'm tracking their progress and ETA closely as I plan to go out and meet
them. I think they might have finally relented and set the iron genny since
they are suddenly on a rumb line for Portland at 5.2 knots and I can't see
anything in the buoy reports to account for it. It would be a wise use of
diesel fuel since they are predicting rain and low visibility tomorrow. Of
course, that could be just about any day in the last 30. I haven't spoken
to anyone recently who claims to remember a worse summer in this part of the
world.

--
Roger Long

Their projected course shows good strategy and sense right now. It isn't
straight towards Portland which would put them right in the ship traffic
lane and following it during the early morning hours when everyone on the
water is least attentive. Instead, they will go just past the beginning of
the southern lane and then come up to the Portland approaches about dawn
right between the two lanes. It's about the best they do to minimize the
chances of a traffic encounter. It looks like Skip is thinking pretty
clearly after several days short handed at sea.

--
Roger Long

On Aug 5, 4:44*pm, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

You know? I find this thread very strange as it consists mainly of one
individual sailing down east and a multitude of others sitting at home
snipping at him.

Bruce-in-Bangkok


Hello Bruce:

If a guy goes into a crowed dive bar and whips out his winnie,
waggles it at everbody and yells........." HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT MY
WINNIE! " Ya might expect to get a little feed back.

When Skip blabs on with his dear diary logs in a place like this ya
might expect his word to be:
1) suported
2) criticized
3) ignored
4) questioned for aditoinal information
5) ______





Bob

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:47:58 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Aug 5, 4:44*pm, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

You know? I find this thread very strange as it consists mainly of one
individual sailing down east and a multitude of others sitting at home
snipping at him.

Bruce-in-Bangkok


Hello Bruce:

If a guy goes into a crowed dive bar and whips out his winnie,
waggles it at everbody and yells........." HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT MY
WINNIE! " Ya might expect to get a little feed back.

When Skip blabs on with his dear diary logs in a place like this ya
might expect his word to be:
1) suported
2) criticized
3) ignored
4) questioned for aditoinal information
5) ______

Bob

Actually, I'd give your post a bit more credence if you were posting
it through SailMail but you are posting through:

Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
OrgID: CLLC
Address: 180 Washington Valley Road
City: Bedminster
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07039
Country: US

In other words you are sitting home and writing this while Skip is out
on the briny sailing.

To quote Teddy Roosevelt:

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere
critic. The man who actually does the work, even if roughly and
imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought
to be done."

Which pretty well expresses it all.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:01:46 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Hear hear.

Their incredible roster of deficiencies is primarily a function of their
openess, complete reporting, and the dynamics of this newsgroup. I doubt
that many now experienced long distance cruisers did as well on their first
long passage.

I'm tracking their progress and ETA closely as I plan to go out and meet
them. I think they might have finally relented and set the iron genny since
they are suddenly on a rumb line for Portland at 5.2 knots and I can't see
anything in the buoy reports to account for it. It would be a wise use of
diesel fuel since they are predicting rain and low visibility tomorrow. Of
course, that could be just about any day in the last 30. I haven't spoken
to anyone recently who claims to remember a worse summer in this part of the
world.

There is an old saying, supposedly about sailing on Chesapeake Bay:
"There are sailors who have been aground, there are sailors that are
going to go aground, and Damned Liars"

I suggest that everyone who has done any sailing to amount to anything
has made mistakes, and learned from them. People who have never made a
mistake are probably lying.

Thus, Skip is right there with the rest of us. Except he is out there
doing it and the nay sayers are sitting at home.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:01:46 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Their incredible roster of deficiencies is primarily a function of their
openess, complete reporting, and the dynamics of this newsgroup. I doubt
that many now experienced long distance cruisers did as well on their first
long passage.

Some truth to that, however I continue to be concerned with the
unnecessary risks that have been taken. Given enough chances Murphy
and his laws will always catch up with you in some unfortunate way.

When you are crossing oceans there is no alternative but to cruise
around the clock for many days at a time. Learning to deal with the
sleep deprivation and fatigue is part of the game, not so with coastal
cruising. Bad judgement can start creeping up on you after an
extended time offshore.

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:07:54 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:



Thus, Skip is right there with the rest of us. Except he is out there
doing it and the nay sayers are sitting at home.

Maybe because they aren't prepared yet. Gotta be ready.
Can't have anything go wrong. Must be shipshape.
Just not quite ready. Few things to take care of first.
Won't be long. Have to be patient. Why take any chances?
Could lead to disaster. Or even embarrassment.
Must be a good sailor, so want all just right.
Anything less would be lubberly.
Now, my legs are just right on the ottoman.
Gimme another beer. And turn on the light - it's getting dark.
No sense I risk tripping on the dog when walking to bed.
That could be embarrassing if somebody found out.

--Vic

"Wayne.B" wrote
Bad judgement can start creeping up on you after an
extended time offshore.

Seems to hit some of us like a ton of bricks after a few minutes on
usenet...

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:26:57 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:07:54 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:



Thus, Skip is right there with the rest of us. Except he is out there
doing it and the nay sayers are sitting at home.

Maybe because they aren't prepared yet. Gotta be ready.
Can't have anything go wrong. Must be shipshape.
Just not quite ready. Few things to take care of first.
Won't be long. Have to be patient. Why take any chances?
Could lead to disaster. Or even embarrassment.
Must be a good sailor, so want all just right.
Anything less would be lubberly.
Now, my legs are just right on the ottoman.
Gimme another beer. And turn on the light - it's getting dark.
No sense I risk tripping on the dog when walking to bed.
That could be embarrassing if somebody found out.

--Vic

Yup. to quote Frank Hill, a 78 year old Australian mate of mine, "you
can spend your whole damned life getting ready to go. Or you can just
GO!"

Apparently Skip listened to the latter part of the quote.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)