On Aug 7, 3:49*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote

"Sucks" ...

I meant to type "shucks". One reason I don't type long posts like S&L
is that I'm illiterate. Probably the same reason that the point of
your initial post flew over my head. Actually, I'm still struggling a
bit with your argument. I don't see how it follows that now that S&L
have managed to get from one place to another and that they are still
on a "learning curve" that they should be immune from negative
feedback on their posts. I don't even see why they should be immune
from folks who only cruise around in their home waters. I don't need
Joyce to tell me I can't write. Anybody who can read is qualified to
make that observation. To be sure, Skip's sailing skills are superior
to my writing skills, but I still think that when he posts here and
folks say (with more or less tact) "don't quit your day job" that they
have every right to do so no matter how they sail. Their criticism is
valid or not based on the facts (some of which only Skip is privy to)
not on some arbitrary rite of passage.

-- Tom.

Perhaps we could use a little more clarity in language than I've been using
here.

Criticism: (Example)

Jackstay posted that the squall was so hard that he had to winch in on his
roller furling Genoa line. That's a good way to break a furling gear. A
key to living happily with roller furling is to reef before the strains get
that great.

Judgment:

Jackstay's post proves that he is a total dufus who has no business going to
sea.

The former is always welcome and there is, indeed, no reason why the
responder needs to have more sea miles or experience that the OP.

The latter is all too common here and I find it especially irritating coming
from those for sitting home typing such stuff clearly takes precedence over
actual cruising. I believe a rigorous analysis would show that greater
experience correlates with a greater tendancy to respond in the critical
rather than the judgemental mode.

--
Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Perhaps we could use a little more clarity in language than I've been
using
here.

Criticism: (Example)

Jackstay posted that the squall was so hard that he had to winch in on his
roller furling Genoa line. That's a good way to break a furling gear. A
key to living happily with roller furling is to reef before the strains
get that great.

Judgment:

Jackstay's post proves that he is a total dufus who has no business going
to sea.

The former is always welcome and there is, indeed, no reason why the
responder needs to have more sea miles or experience that the OP.

The latter is all too common here and I find it especially irritating
coming from those for sitting home typing such stuff clearly takes
precedence over actual cruising. I believe a rigorous analysis would show
that greater experience correlates with a greater tendancy to respond in
the critical rather than the judgemental mode.

--
Roger Long

==
Jackstay, forestay, backstay .. all I want to know is when the weather will
change ..

Roger,, tell me the sun is coming out soon.. before the summer is over.

Please? I'm begging you ..

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:57:15 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Perhaps we could use a little more clarity in language than I've been using
here.

Criticism: (Example)

Jackstay posted that the squall was so hard that he had to winch in on his
roller furling Genoa line. That's a good way to break a furling gear. A
key to living happily with roller furling is to reef before the strains get
that great.

Judgment:

Jackstay's post proves that he is a total dufus who has no business going to
sea.

The former is always welcome and there is, indeed, no reason why the
responder needs to have more sea miles or experience that the OP.

The latter is all too common here and I find it especially irritating coming
from those for sitting home typing such stuff clearly takes precedence over
actual cruising. I believe a rigorous analysis would show that greater
experience correlates with a greater tendancy to respond in the critical
rather than the judgemental mode.

Yeah, but you are the head dufus.

Well, I'm glad we got that position clarified.

--
Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Well, I'm glad we got that position clarified.

--
Roger Long



Ummm... I don't think it needed clarification! LOL

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Aug 7, 12:57*pm, "Roger Long" wrote:
...
Criticism:...
Judgment: ...

The former is always welcome and there is, indeed, no reason why the
responder needs to have more sea miles or experience that the OP.
...

Good. You had me confused with the non-stop miles in the last 10 days
thing. I gather that it was actually code for "slander is ugly and
unhelpful." Fair enough and an axiom of mine. Just to be clear, I'm
not against judgment as I know the term, I just find it offensive when
it is unconsidered or sinks to the level of simple name calling.

-- Tom.