wrote

However Skip, like yourself, has an ego that won't let him benefit from
his experiences, or those of others.

Now, how could you possibly know that? Especially in the case of myself who
has posted far less of my experiences here. That's where your otherwise
excellent observation that everyone makes mistakes (although it usually
*sounds* as if you and others don't) goes off the track.

Why, just the other day I learned that, if you are in very familiar waters
where navigation doesn't seem like a real issue, you can look down at your
GPS, see the asterisks you expect to be there, and turn left. Oops. The
GPS was zoomed way too far in and there was still one asterisk off the
screen. Bump. You really think I didn't learn something from that?

During my years of observing aviation human factors (where they are far more
critical), I noticed that such assumptions about others are generally
accompanied by dangerous arrogance about ones self. I don't know that that
is true about you individually but it is statistically probable. Why don't
you focus on specifics that would be useful and instructive discussion
instead of jumping to general value judgements about others that just appear
self-serving.

--
Roger Long

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:04:25 -0400, "Roger Long"
wrote:

wrote

However Skip, like yourself, has an ego that won't let him benefit from
his experiences, or those of others.

Now, how could you possibly know that?

Based entirely on the aggregate of his postings... And your own.

This is Usenet, Roger. I don't know your innermost feelings or demons.
All I know is what you post. That's what I draw from. If you have more
information about why you do the things you do, and the way you do
them, that you would like me to take into consideration when forming
my opinions, please post it. Same for Skip.

You post some bizarre assumptions about me, that don't even correlate
to anything I post.

On Aug 7, 5:04*am, "Roger Long" wrote:
wrote

However Skip, like yourself, has an ego that won't let him benefit from
his experiences, or those of others.

Now, how could you possibly know that? *Especially in the case of myself who
has posted far less of my experiences here.

Roger Long

My dear roger,

A writers words are extreamly revealing. To get a flavor of what is
possible I recomend starting with one of the most basic concepts
availible: Binjamin Worf and Ed Sapair's theory of linguistic
relitivity. An anthropologist and linguist teamed up in the 1930s to
study the Hopi indians. One descovery was:
Language Reflects Culture
Language Affects Culture
In other words we all live in a language that forms our view of the
world at a very fundamental level. The traditial textbook example is
the number of single words used by "Eskimo"to describe snow. Well over
113 singel words are used to describe snow while we are hard pressed
to list a ten. Assumption.... snow is a pretty important thing to
Northern lat natives and less to us. So we can say that language is a
window alowing us to understand a culture.
Next the flip side is also true. That is, if we are raised in a
language it will structure how we see/view the world. A simple example
of this is spanish compared to english. they have gendered words La
Messa El Torro, El Libro while we have few. Assumption....... for the
child raised in a heavily gendered language they will grow up seeing
the world (people) as genders who must comply to gender roles very
closly.... can you say MACHO.

The interesting thing assumtion with all this if we change the
language can we change a culture????????????

Hummm,
FIRE MAN = FIRE FIGHTER
POLICE MAN = POLICE OFFICER
FISHER MAN = ANGLER
Ya ever wonder why the us gov changed job titles????????? Just think
Worf - Sapier

NOw, what the **** does that have to do with us here?
Everything. every word you chose, and how you nit it together screams
who you are and what you belive. A simple count of referencing to
authorties and accomplishments or the simple number of times you make
a reference to your self... You have to remember that that the Worf
Sapier Hypothysis was develdoped in the 1930s a robust field of
Rhetorial Anlysis tools have develped since.
Be careful................. be very carful..........

That will be $200 please.

Bob

On 2008-08-07 10:36:37 -0400, Bob said:

The interesting thing assumtion with all this if we change the
language can we change a culture????????????

I'd say it's more an observation than an assumption.

Extreme cases would be the various cults who demonstrably create new
world-views by their coining or re-definition of words, but we see it
in everyday life.

But what did that have to do with the conversation to hand?

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On 7 Aug 2008 09:58:03 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:36:37 -0700 (PDT), Bob said:


The interesting thing assumtion with all this if we change the
language can we change a culture

"Interesting thing assumtion?" Is that Eskimo?

Are you re-reading Cheaper By The Dozen, Dave?

On 7 Aug 2008 10:40:02 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:14:33 -0400, said:


"Interesting thing assumtion?" Is that Eskimo?

Are you re-reading Cheaper By The Dozen, Dave?

Never read it in the first place, so I'm missing your allusion.

The main character used to say something was "Eskimo" if it wasn't
quite kosher.