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TB April 8th 04 04:55 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.
Tony


Peggie Hall April 8th 04 07:26 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327


Peggie Hall April 8th 04 07:26 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327


Matt Koch April 8th 04 07:55 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made
to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify
material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings.

I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of
what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete
with a "fitting relocation kit".

We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly
crude drawing of what I wanted.

Let me know if you need more info.

Matt

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327




Matt Koch April 8th 04 07:55 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made
to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify
material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings.

I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of
what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete
with a "fitting relocation kit".

We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly
crude drawing of what I wanted.

Let me know if you need more info.

Matt

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327




Lloyd Sumpter April 8th 04 10:24 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.


Or, you can forget about all that cross-border stuff (legal or not) and
get it from Barr Plastics in Langley, BC. They have VERY high-quality
stuff, many ready-made tanks, and will custom-build for you as well. They
make pretty much all the tankage for the locally made boats (such as
Sceptre Yachts, Lifetimer, Campion, Hourston...)

I got my 135L holding tank from them and I'm very pleased.
http://www.e-barr.com/barr_plastics.htm

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36



Lloyd Sumpter April 8th 04 10:24 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.


Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.


Or, you can forget about all that cross-border stuff (legal or not) and
get it from Barr Plastics in Langley, BC. They have VERY high-quality
stuff, many ready-made tanks, and will custom-build for you as well. They
make pretty much all the tankage for the locally made boats (such as
Sceptre Yachts, Lifetimer, Campion, Hourston...)

I got my 135L holding tank from them and I'm very pleased.
http://www.e-barr.com/barr_plastics.htm

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36



Marc April 8th 04 11:38 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I just received my custom 30 gal HDPE water tank from CC TECH in
Rhode Island. They were cheaper than any one else. Barr quoted
$200.00 US higher.





On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:24:54 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter"
wrote:


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.

Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.


Or, you can forget about all that cross-border stuff (legal or not) and
get it from Barr Plastics in Langley, BC. They have VERY high-quality
stuff, many ready-made tanks, and will custom-build for you as well. They
make pretty much all the tankage for the locally made boats (such as
Sceptre Yachts, Lifetimer, Campion, Hourston...)

I got my 135L holding tank from them and I'm very pleased.
http://www.e-barr.com/barr_plastics.htm

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36



Marc April 8th 04 11:38 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I just received my custom 30 gal HDPE water tank from CC TECH in
Rhode Island. They were cheaper than any one else. Barr quoted
$200.00 US higher.





On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:24:54 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter"
wrote:


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
TB wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.

Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.


Or, you can forget about all that cross-border stuff (legal or not) and
get it from Barr Plastics in Langley, BC. They have VERY high-quality
stuff, many ready-made tanks, and will custom-build for you as well. They
make pretty much all the tankage for the locally made boats (such as
Sceptre Yachts, Lifetimer, Campion, Hourston...)

I got my 135L holding tank from them and I'm very pleased.
http://www.e-barr.com/barr_plastics.htm

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36



[email protected] April 9th 04 05:08 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Peggie Hall wrote:


Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.


When I moved to Montreal in about '76 the Candian dollar was worth more
than the US buck. By the time I came back about 6 months later, it had
flipflopped. Guess I pretty much ruined their economy while I was there.

Jim.


[email protected] April 9th 04 05:08 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Peggie Hall wrote:


Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.


When I moved to Montreal in about '76 the Candian dollar was worth more
than the US buck. By the time I came back about 6 months later, it had
flipflopped. Guess I pretty much ruined their economy while I was there.

Jim.


TB April 9th 04 08:56 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.

Peggie Hall wrote:

TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non
are suitable.



Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.



TB April 9th 04 08:56 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.

Peggie Hall wrote:

TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non
are suitable.



Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.



TB April 9th 04 09:07 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
The local supplier said that it it is to expensive to make the moulds,
they must use a different tecnique. it is possible that they could
modify one of the ronco ones though.


Matt Koch wrote:

Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made
to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify
material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings.

I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of
what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete
with a "fitting relocation kit".

We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly
crude drawing of what I wanted.

Let me know if you need more info.

Matt

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...

TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.

Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327






TB April 9th 04 09:07 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
The local supplier said that it it is to expensive to make the moulds,
they must use a different tecnique. it is possible that they could
modify one of the ronco ones though.


Matt Koch wrote:

Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made
to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify
material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings.

I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of
what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete
with a "fitting relocation kit".

We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly
crude drawing of what I wanted.

Let me know if you need more info.

Matt

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...

TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the
Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the
website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no
longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are
suitable.

Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your
best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a
Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the
closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the
tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You
could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up
shipments.

It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into
Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes"
are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune
in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In
the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that
whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so
there's no gain or loss there.

Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the
rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327






Rod McInnis April 9th 04 09:52 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 

"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them
to whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip
tube wouldn't be a problem.

My suggestion is to contact Ronco and ask them. They were very responsive
when I dealt with them last year.

Rod McInnis



Rod McInnis April 9th 04 09:52 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 

"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them
to whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip
tube wouldn't be a problem.

My suggestion is to contact Ronco and ask them. They were very responsive
when I dealt with them last year.

Rod McInnis



Peggie Hall April 10th 04 12:07 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
TB wrote:
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.


They'll install any fittings you specify, in any location you specify,
including a discharge on the top with a pickup tube inside to the bottom.

If the tank is going in a sailboat, I recommend that you put ALL the
fittings ON the top, with both the vent and the inlet from the toilet
away from the hull, toward the centerline of the boat. That will prevent
waste in the tank from flowing into the vent line and the head discharge
hose when you're heeled, no matter which tack you're on.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall April 10th 04 12:07 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
TB wrote:
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.


They'll install any fittings you specify, in any location you specify,
including a discharge on the top with a pickup tube inside to the bottom.

If the tank is going in a sailboat, I recommend that you put ALL the
fittings ON the top, with both the vent and the inlet from the toilet
away from the hull, toward the centerline of the boat. That will prevent
waste in the tank from flowing into the vent line and the head discharge
hose when you're heeled, no matter which tack you're on.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Marc April 10th 04 03:00 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.



On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:52:01 -0700, "Rod McInnis"
wrote:


"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them
to whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip
tube wouldn't be a problem.

My suggestion is to contact Ronco and ask them. They were very responsive
when I dealt with them last year.

Rod McInnis



Marc April 10th 04 03:00 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.



On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:52:01 -0700, "Rod McInnis"
wrote:


"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they
do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an
internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like
the idea of a bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them
to whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip
tube wouldn't be a problem.

My suggestion is to contact Ronco and ask them. They were very responsive
when I dealt with them last year.

Rod McInnis



Peggie Hall April 10th 04 06:56 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 


Marc wrote:
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.


It's not that critical...Anything in the tank that's likely to clog a
1.25" pipe would also clog a 1.5" pipe.

-
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall April 10th 04 06:56 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 


Marc wrote:
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.


It's not that critical...Anything in the tank that's likely to clog a
1.25" pipe would also clog a 1.5" pipe.

-
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:06 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:52:01 +0000, Rod McInnis wrote:


"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they do not
appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an internal pipe
from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like the idea of a
bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them to
whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip tube
wouldn't be a problem.


Ahh...that may be one reason they're cheaper than Barr Plastics. When I had mine
made, they did all the fittings, including the dip tube, all high quality
materials and workmanship, and did some of the engineering too (my tank didn't
have ONE 90 degree angle!). Total cost was about $800 CDN - not too bad when you
consider the quality.

Lloyd


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:06 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:52:01 +0000, Rod McInnis wrote:


"TB" wrote in message ...
I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they do not
appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an internal pipe
from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like the idea of a
bottom discharge.



I bought a 110 gallon water tank from Ronco last year, a very pleasant
experience, actually!

The tanks are fabricated with no fittings on them at all, they will add them to
whatever your specifications are. Their website indicates that they can
accommodate up to a 3" threaded fitting so I would expect that making a dip tube
wouldn't be a problem.


Ahh...that may be one reason they're cheaper than Barr Plastics. When I had mine
made, they did all the fittings, including the dip tube, all high quality
materials and workmanship, and did some of the engineering too (my tank didn't
have ONE 90 degree angle!). Total cost was about $800 CDN - not too bad when you
consider the quality.

Lloyd


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:12 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area.
I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon
plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto
have them in their catalogue but non are suitable.
Tony


BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm

Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank,
and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube.

Lloyd


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:12 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote:

Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area.
I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon
plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto
have them in their catalogue but non are suitable.
Tony


BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm

Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank,
and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube.

Lloyd


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:14 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:12:08 +0000, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:



BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm


(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)

Lloyd


Lloyd Sumpter April 10th 04 06:14 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:12:08 +0000, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:



BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm


(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)

Lloyd


Peggie Hall April 10th 04 08:03 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the
toilet and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian
waters except in those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Peggie Hall April 10th 04 08:03 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the
toilet and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian
waters except in those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html


Marc April 10th 04 10:29 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Maybe so, but the Sealand bore is 30% larger. It also has an angled
foot that leaves less residual waste in the tank. Having said that, I
have the Ronco dip tube. If I were modifying an existing tank, Sealand
gets the nod. Building a new tank from scratch, I'd go with the
factory install.



On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:56:11 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:



Marc wrote:
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.


It's not that critical...Anything in the tank that's likely to clog a
1.25" pipe would also clog a 1.5" pipe.

-
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



Marc April 10th 04 10:29 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
Maybe so, but the Sealand bore is 30% larger. It also has an angled
foot that leaves less residual waste in the tank. Having said that, I
have the Ronco dip tube. If I were modifying an existing tank, Sealand
gets the nod. Building a new tank from scratch, I'd go with the
factory install.



On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:56:11 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:



Marc wrote:
Be careful about the Ronco dip tubes. The fitting is a 1.5" PVC
threaded adapter with a 1.25" schedule 80 dip tube which has been
rabittted and glued together. Sealand makes a diptube which can be
installed in any tank with a full 1.5" bore.


It's not that critical...Anything in the tank that's likely to clog a
1.25" pipe would also clog a 1.5" pipe.

-
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



Lloyd Sumpter April 11th 04 01:24 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:03:30 +0000, Peggie Hall wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet
and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in
those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"


Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III"
are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or
other parts of the world).

This is why a Raritan treatment system doesn't make much sense in Canada: "raw"
and "treated" sewage is the same.

I'd check the Canadian regs to see what and where dumping is legal. I know what
you say is true for Georgia Strait: No dumping ANYTHING in the "no discharge"
zones, but you can empty your holding tank (raw or treated) in Georgia Strait.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36


Lloyd Sumpter April 11th 04 01:24 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:03:30 +0000, Peggie Hall wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
(Note that in this one, they refer to "Type I and II". There's no such
designation in Canada: it's just "sewage" or "not sewage" (refer to the first
link, which is the actual regulations)


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet
and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in
those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"


Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III"
are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or
other parts of the world).

This is why a Raritan treatment system doesn't make much sense in Canada: "raw"
and "treated" sewage is the same.

I'd check the Canadian regs to see what and where dumping is legal. I know what
you say is true for Georgia Strait: No dumping ANYTHING in the "no discharge"
zones, but you can empty your holding tank (raw or treated) in Georgia Strait.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36


Peggie Hall April 11th 04 02:38 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 


Lloyd Sumpter wrote:


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet
and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in
those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"



Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III"
are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or
other parts of the world).


Actually, Type I and II MSDs are clearly defined in ISO rules, which are
the regs for most of the world--and US regs conform to ISO rules...in
fact are the basis for many ISO rules that US rules pre-date. So while
"Type I and II MSD" may not have any meaning in Canada, they most
definitely do in most other parts of the world that have marine
sanitation regs.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_rid_of_boat_odors.htm


Peggie Hall April 11th 04 02:38 AM

Canadian holding tank supply
 


Lloyd Sumpter wrote:


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet
and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in
those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"



Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III"
are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or
other parts of the world).


Actually, Type I and II MSDs are clearly defined in ISO rules, which are
the regs for most of the world--and US regs conform to ISO rules...in
fact are the basis for many ISO rules that US rules pre-date. So while
"Type I and II MSD" may not have any meaning in Canada, they most
definitely do in most other parts of the world that have marine
sanitation regs.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_rid_of_boat_odors.htm


TB April 11th 04 03:57 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly.

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote:


Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area.
I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon
plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto
have them in their catalogue but non are suitable.
Tony


BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm

Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank,
and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube.

Lloyd




TB April 11th 04 03:57 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly.

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote:


Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area.
I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon
plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto
have them in their catalogue but non are suitable.
Tony


BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations...091/csa91.html
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm

Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank,
and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube.

Lloyd




Jack Dale April 11th 04 04:44 PM

Canadian holding tank supply
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:38:09 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:



Lloyd Sumpter wrote:


Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal
waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet
and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in
those areas specifically designated "no discharge?"


This is correct. In British Columbia the "no discharge" areas are
listed at:

http://www.pacific.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs...as/index_e.htm




Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III"
are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or
other parts of the world).


Actually, Type I and II MSDs are clearly defined in ISO rules, which are
the regs for most of the world--and US regs conform to ISO rules...in
fact are the basis for many ISO rules that US rules pre-date. So while
"Type I and II MSD" may not have any meaning in Canada, they most
definitely do in most other parts of the world that have marine
sanitation regs.


These are also Canadian designations:

http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/pub...n_e.htm#Sewage

As a matter of interest, the city of Victoria does not treat its
effluent other than straining out the large bits.

Jack

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Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
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