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Canadian holding tank supply
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:38:09 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Iow, you're saying that in Canada there is no "3 mile limit" in coastal waters...that raw sewage may be discharged directly overboard from the toilet and holding tanks may be dumped anywhere in coastal Canadian waters except in those areas specifically designated "no discharge?" This is correct. In British Columbia the "no discharge" areas are listed at: http://www.pacific.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs...as/index_e.htm Kinda, I think...What I'm saying is that the "Type I" Type II" and "Type III" are purely American designations - they have no legal definition in Canada (or other parts of the world). Actually, Type I and II MSDs are clearly defined in ISO rules, which are the regs for most of the world--and US regs conform to ISO rules...in fact are the basis for many ISO rules that US rules pre-date. So while "Type I and II MSD" may not have any meaning in Canada, they most definitely do in most other parts of the world that have marine sanitation regs. These are also Canadian designations: http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/pub...n_e.htm#Sewage As a matter of interest, the city of Victoria does not treat its effluent other than straining out the large bits. Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
Canadian holding tank supply
Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light?
-- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
Canadian holding tank supply
Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light?
-- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
Canadian holding tank supply
I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good
tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good
tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb.
Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light? -- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
Canadian holding tank supply
Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb.
Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light? -- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
Canadian holding tank supply
Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them
last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them
last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:09:07 -0400, TB wrote:
Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb. You may find that a white LED (the kind that replaces a bayonet-mount 12 v incandescent) works just as well at a fraction of the amp draw and an uptick in ruggedness. This may be of interest if like me your holding tank is nearly as distant from the batteries as the bow running lights, which I may switch this year to ganged LEDs for this reason. R. |
Canadian holding tank supply
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:09:07 -0400, TB wrote:
Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb. You may find that a white LED (the kind that replaces a bayonet-mount 12 v incandescent) works just as well at a fraction of the amp draw and an uptick in ruggedness. This may be of interest if like me your holding tank is nearly as distant from the batteries as the bow running lights, which I may switch this year to ganged LEDs for this reason. R. |
Canadian holding tank supply
I showed my friend your post. He e-mailed them;
Sent: April 11, 2004 7:35 PM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry I recently heard that you are no longer supplying molded tanks. Is that true? I bought one of your tanks last year for my 1984 Express 30. Shirlon was the original manufacturer. I am quite happy with the tank. Here's their response; From: Anna Carrieri ] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:50 AM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry XXXXX, I have no idea who would have told you that we don't carry molded tanks. Please let me know which tank you are looking for and I will let you know if we still carry that tank or not Thanks Anna Someone lying? "TB" wrote in message ... Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
It was Anna that i spoke to she told me that they carry only one marine
holding tank #8145 @$85this is not shown on their site, they carry lots of other tanks. I will call her again and confirm this. I just passed the place on my way home from work! Scott Vernon wrote: I showed my friend your post. He e-mailed them; Sent: April 11, 2004 7:35 PM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry I recently heard that you are no longer supplying molded tanks. Is that true? I bought one of your tanks last year for my 1984 Express 30. Shirlon was the original manufacturer. I am quite happy with the tank. Here's their response; From: Anna Carrieri ] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:50 AM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry XXXXX, I have no idea who would have told you that we don't carry molded tanks. Please let me know which tank you are looking for and I will let you know if we still carry that tank or not Thanks Anna Someone lying? "TB" wrote in message ... Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
It was Anna that i spoke to she told me that they carry only one marine
holding tank #8145 @$85this is not shown on their site, they carry lots of other tanks. I will call her again and confirm this. I just passed the place on my way home from work! Scott Vernon wrote: I showed my friend your post. He e-mailed them; Sent: April 11, 2004 7:35 PM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry I recently heard that you are no longer supplying molded tanks. Is that true? I bought one of your tanks last year for my 1984 Express 30. Shirlon was the original manufacturer. I am quite happy with the tank. Here's their response; From: Anna Carrieri ] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:50 AM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry XXXXX, I have no idea who would have told you that we don't carry molded tanks. Please let me know which tank you are looking for and I will let you know if we still carry that tank or not Thanks Anna Someone lying? "TB" wrote in message ... Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
Scott, I just spoke to Anna
Niether of us is lying, they do supply molded tanks. They no longer supply marine holding tanks, but if I pay upwards of$2000 to make a mold then they will make me one. TB wrote: It was Anna that i spoke to she told me that they carry only one marine holding tank #8145 @$85this is not shown on their site, they carry lots of other tanks. I will call her again and confirm this. I just passed the place on my way home from work! Scott Vernon wrote: I showed my friend your post. He e-mailed them; Sent: April 11, 2004 7:35 PM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry I recently heard that you are no longer supplying molded tanks. Is that true? I bought one of your tanks last year for my 1984 Express 30. Shirlon was the original manufacturer. I am quite happy with the tank. Here's their response; From: Anna Carrieri ] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:50 AM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry XXXXX, I have no idea who would have told you that we don't carry molded tanks. Please let me know which tank you are looking for and I will let you know if we still carry that tank or not Thanks Anna Someone lying? "TB" wrote in message ... Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
Scott, I just spoke to Anna
Niether of us is lying, they do supply molded tanks. They no longer supply marine holding tanks, but if I pay upwards of$2000 to make a mold then they will make me one. TB wrote: It was Anna that i spoke to she told me that they carry only one marine holding tank #8145 @$85this is not shown on their site, they carry lots of other tanks. I will call her again and confirm this. I just passed the place on my way home from work! Scott Vernon wrote: I showed my friend your post. He e-mailed them; Sent: April 11, 2004 7:35 PM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry I recently heard that you are no longer supplying molded tanks. Is that true? I bought one of your tanks last year for my 1984 Express 30. Shirlon was the original manufacturer. I am quite happy with the tank. Here's their response; From: Anna Carrieri ] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:50 AM To: Subject: Shirlon Customer Service Web Inquiry XXXXX, I have no idea who would have told you that we don't carry molded tanks. Please let me know which tank you are looking for and I will let you know if we still carry that tank or not Thanks Anna Someone lying? "TB" wrote in message ... Yes, they show them on their site but no longer sell them. I called them last week. Scott Vernon wrote: I assume you meant Shirlon? My buddy got one from them, good price , good tank. http://www.shirlonplastics.com/RVCatalog.pdf -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "TB" wrote in message ... Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony |
Canadian holding tank supply
TB
My tank was not moulded. It is a straight forward rectangular tank. The pieces were cut from sheets and plastic welded to form the tank. I't been in the boat for 5 seasons now without a problem. Matt "TB" wrote in message ... The local supplier said that it it is to expensive to make the moulds, they must use a different tecnique. it is possible that they could modify one of the ronco ones though. Matt Koch wrote: Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings. I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete with a "fitting relocation kit". We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly crude drawing of what I wanted. Let me know if you need more info. Matt "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up shipments. It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes" are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so there's no gain or loss there. Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 |
Canadian holding tank supply
TB
My tank was not moulded. It is a straight forward rectangular tank. The pieces were cut from sheets and plastic welded to form the tank. I't been in the boat for 5 seasons now without a problem. Matt "TB" wrote in message ... The local supplier said that it it is to expensive to make the moulds, they must use a different tecnique. it is possible that they could modify one of the ronco ones though. Matt Koch wrote: Another option is too find a local Plastics manufacturer and have one made to measure. Its' not as expensive as you may think and you get to specify material, wall thickness and he location of the fittings. I did a 35 gallon tank, about 5 years agi in Montreal for about the price of what it would have cost to order a similar tank from West maring complete with a "fitting relocation kit". We used 3/8th polyethylene to build the tank. I simply faxed them a fairly crude drawing of what I wanted. Let me know if you need more info. Matt "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Ronco Plastics (http://www.ronco-plastics.com) in California is your best source...and since you're close to the border, I suggest you rent a Mailboxes Etc (or one of the many similar businesses) address in the closest location to you on the US side of the border--not just for the tank, but for everything else you'd order from US marine suppliers. You could even share it with friends and take turns coming over to pick up shipments. It's not illegal as long as you declare it when you cross back into Canada and pay any duty (doubtful there'd be any)...those "mailboxes" are very inexpensive, having stuff sent to one will save you a fortune in UPS "international" shipping charges and "customs brokerage fees." In the unlikely event there would be any duty, you'd have to pay that whether it's shipped to a Canadian address or you bring it over...so there's no gain or loss there. Now is an especially good time to buy from US suppliers too...'cuz the rate of exchange is the lowest it's been since I can remember. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 |
Canadian holding tank supply
Ronco made mine with two dip tubes, one for the deck pumpout and the other
for the diapharagm pump, so I don't need a Y valve. Very happy with their tank and fittings. All were installed on the top of the tank. -- Keith __ Get forgiveness now -- tomorrow you may no longer feel guilty. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... TB wrote: I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like the idea of a bottom discharge. They'll install any fittings you specify, in any location you specify, including a discharge on the top with a pickup tube inside to the bottom. If the tank is going in a sailboat, I recommend that you put ALL the fittings ON the top, with both the vent and the inlet from the toilet away from the hull, toward the centerline of the boat. That will prevent waste in the tank from flowing into the vent line and the head discharge hose when you're heeled, no matter which tack you're on. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
Canadian holding tank supply
Ronco made mine with two dip tubes, one for the deck pumpout and the other
for the diapharagm pump, so I don't need a Y valve. Very happy with their tank and fittings. All were installed on the top of the tank. -- Keith __ Get forgiveness now -- tomorrow you may no longer feel guilty. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... TB wrote: I checked the ronco site and they have a tank the size I need but they do not appear to have the option of a top discharge, that is with an internal pipe from a top fitting to the bottom of the tank. I don't like the idea of a bottom discharge. They'll install any fittings you specify, in any location you specify, including a discharge on the top with a pickup tube inside to the bottom. If the tank is going in a sailboat, I recommend that you put ALL the fittings ON the top, with both the vent and the inlet from the toilet away from the hull, toward the centerline of the boat. That will prevent waste in the tank from flowing into the vent line and the head discharge hose when you're heeled, no matter which tack you're on. Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html |
Canadian holding tank supply
BTW, Phillips makes a nice 110V bulb coated with Teflon, so that if it
breaks, glass doesn't fly everywhere. I use them in the shop light in the engine room. -- Keith __ I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully the first time. "TB" wrote in message ... Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb. Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light? -- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
Canadian holding tank supply
BTW, Phillips makes a nice 110V bulb coated with Teflon, so that if it
breaks, glass doesn't fly everywhere. I use them in the shop light in the engine room. -- Keith __ I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully the first time. "TB" wrote in message ... Nothing fancy, just a switched bare bulb. Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds like a good idea. What did you use for the light? -- Scott Vernon S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "TB" wrote in message ... I installed a backlight for the present tank, this shows the level clearly. Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:55:20 +0000, TB wrote: Anyone know of a supplier of good holding tanks prefferably in the Toronto area. I just deliberated over which tank to purchase from the website if Sherlon plastics in Cambridge only to find that they no longer supply them. HMP Toronto have them in their catalogue but non are suitable. Tony BTW: You might want to check the Canadian regulations on holding tanks: http://www.tc.gc.ca/acts-regulations.../090/csa091/cs a91.html http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/obs-bsn/reg...pendix_c_e.htm Note in particular that you NEED a means of determining the level in the tank, and a flame-arrestor on the vent tube. Lloyd |
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