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Radio Call Signs
On 2008-07-14 13:05:41 -0400, "claus" said:
Are "Call Signs" ever used in VHF communications to/from/between boats? I know they are part of the FCC radio license - but is they just a "leftover" from land based radio stations? Rarely used around here other than the various law enforcement entities and CG Auxiliary, and even then often dropped or shortened after initial contact. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Radio Call Signs
On 2008-07-14 22:32:50 -0400, Larry said:
Herodotus wrote in : When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser". cheers Peter I said, "I'm ****ed!", in an English pub and they all offered to drive me home....(c; Two nations separated by a common language. -- Jere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Radio Call Signs
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Dave wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:31:48 GMT, Bruce in alaska said: the above USCG Transmission does NOT follow the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) Regulations, which the USA is Signatory to. What that Coastie, was supposed to say is "Channel 16 is for Calling and Distress Communications only, Please move your traffic to a working Frequency, Coast Guard Sector Long Island, OUT!" If you are correct about the regulations, it sounds to me like the regulations are out of date, and the Coastie was right. Channel 16 used to be the calling channel as well as the distress communications channel. But now the calling channel is Ch 9, with 16 reserved for distress communications. Nope, you got it WRONG, Channel 16, IS for Calling and Distress Communications ONLY, and that is an ITU Regulation, WORLDWIDE. The USA has seen fit to move non-commercial Calling, ON A SECONDARY BASIS, to Channel 9, basically to get the Weekend Warriors off Channel 16, with their incessant "Hey Joe, are you there", crap. You will NOT find any of the Commercial Users, Calling on Channel 9, as this is a LIMITED, SECONDARY BASIS, Usage for non-commercial vessels. The Weekend Warriors, will never be able to learn proper Marine VHF Operating Rules or Language, mostly because they NEVER have read 47CFR80, which are the Rules for the Maritime Mobile Radio Service, in the US, which they use. They just figure if they pay their money for their spiffy new "Boat", get all the latest, spiffy new Radio's and Electronics, and stick all the Manuals in a drawer, that they should be able to call "Joe" whenever, wherever, and on any channel they choose. Even if it is a Commercial ONLY VHF Channel, or a Ship to Shore ONLY VHF Channel. Fortunately, fitting an MF/HF Radio that carries into the rest of the WORLD, does require a Station License, AND an Operators License, which then REQUIRES the Skipper to have at least Read the Rules, one would Hope. Don't get "Me" wrong here, the Commercial Guys have their own set of BS, as well. Like, having the Cruise Ships using Channel 68, to communicate with their Tenders and Lighters. However, the USCG doesn't guard Channel 68, to nothing ever happens to these YAHOO's when they co-opt CH 68, instead of using Channel 67, or Channel 8, like their supposed to. These two are specifically set aside for Intership Commercial Communications ONLY. Oh well, Now that I am ReTired, it isn't my problem anymore, but it still gets my Blood Pressure Up. -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
Radio Call Signs
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:06:20 +1000, Herodotus
wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:07:12 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: They also jabber on channel 16 a lot. Same same Malaysia. Came through Malacca Harbour one night and have never heard so much talk. Even some young lady that appeared to be advertising herself, albeit in vague terms, Made me wonder what one could have done if there was an emergency. P.S. my spelling checker says "harbour" is a misspelled word :-) Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Actually Bruce, I wonder whether the proliferation of the web and various software packages will tend to nullify the differences between the various branches of English in the not so distant future. I have noticed that a lot of younger IT professionals spell "programme" as the American "program" and nobody (including me) cares. After all, the differences in American - British spelling probably originate from the time US English was isolated from your colonial masters. Reading Captain Cook's English and his spelling is not the same as it would have been if he wrote today. After all, the meaning is what is important and there are cultural differences between the two. When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser". cheers Peter And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts place and want a "bonnet" for your auto.... Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
Radio Call Signs
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:32:50 +0000, Larry wrote:
Herodotus wrote in : When I ask for a rubber at a shop I don't expect to be handed a packet of condoms when I need an "eraser". cheers Peter I said, "I'm ****ed!", in an English pub and they all offered to drive me home....(c; Or you tell a gal, "I'll knock you up in the morning" and she says, "Ta". Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) |
Radio Call Signs
Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
: And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts place and want a "bonnet" for your auto.... or a boot? |
Radio Call Signs
Larry wrote in news:Xns9ADDDC73BC9CBnoonehomecom@
208.49.80.253: Bruce in Bangkok wrote in : And I can hear the Parts Guy now when you trip into the car parts place and want a "bonnet" for your auto.... or a boot? Six Canadians just looked at each other and said, "A boot what?" about = "aboot" |
Radio Call Signs
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Dave wrote: I'm talking real world here. The world of gummint regulations is different. Do you really use 16 to hail other boats up there? Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for, and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. Channel 16 provides a Common Place for ALL Maritime VHF Radios to be, when trying to contact another Station, for any reason, not just for Distress reasons. Having been in the Radio Regulation Enforcement Biz for many years, it never ceases to amaze me, what folks think, and say about, how Maritime Mobile Radio is supposed to work, and why things are they way they are. Weekend Warriors are NOT the largest users of Maritime Radios on this planet, contrary to popular belief, and the Maritime Mobile Radio Service wasn't put in place just for their specific pleasure, or usage. -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
Radio Call Signs
On Jul 17, 2:20*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
... Just about ALL commercial Vessels use 16 for Calling, no matter where they are in the world. It is what Channel 16 was meant to be used for, and why ALL commercial vessels are required to maintain a Watch on Channel 16 while navigating, no matter the size of the vessel. ... Yes but there are important exceptions. In many places in the US of A commercial vessels maintain a watch on 13 & VTS and do not watch 16. See 33 CFR 26 particularly 26.04 (d). This is unfortunate and can be confusing but if your life depends on getting in touch with a tug here in SF Bay you better call on 13. -- Tom. |
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