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Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark
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I have a SailRite LSZ-1 UltraFeed. This is a walking foot zigzag machine.

It is heavy and can handle very thick canvas and sail material..
The main drawback with this machine is the lack of room under the arm.

In general you can get buy with a lesser machine and one without the walking
foot feature.. I have in the past.. The real advantage of the walking foot
is better control of both upper and lower layers of the material.. With a
standard machine, with only lower feed dogs, the material on the bottom
tends to feed slightly faster that the top, so you have to manually
compensate for this. (been there done that).

It is true that you can find commercial machines, cheap that are walking
foot, but it is rare and expensive for a walking foot zigzag machine.

I would also say that zigzag is most important to sail making while canvas
work can be done with straight stitch alone (especially if your using
syntetics and use a hot knife for cutting and sealing the edges).

Sail Rite is a well established mail order company.. Family owned and when
you call you can be assured you will get very good information and
attentions from one of these family members. I have never had any complaint
with their products, material or service.

Sail Rite has a facility to computer design and cut sails for you and
deliver them all match marked so you just sew them together and finish the
the edges, etc.

They have instructional videos for most sail and canvas projects.

Prices of for raw materials are slightly higher but often you won't mind
since someone will be talking your through you project and make sure you get
the right stuff.

Enough Said.

Steve
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I have a SailRite LSZ-1 UltraFeed. This is a walking foot zigzag machine.

It is heavy and can handle very thick canvas and sail material..
The main drawback with this machine is the lack of room under the arm.

In general you can get buy with a lesser machine and one without the walking
foot feature.. I have in the past.. The real advantage of the walking foot
is better control of both upper and lower layers of the material.. With a
standard machine, with only lower feed dogs, the material on the bottom
tends to feed slightly faster that the top, so you have to manually
compensate for this. (been there done that).

It is true that you can find commercial machines, cheap that are walking
foot, but it is rare and expensive for a walking foot zigzag machine.

I would also say that zigzag is most important to sail making while canvas
work can be done with straight stitch alone (especially if your using
syntetics and use a hot knife for cutting and sealing the edges).

Sail Rite is a well established mail order company.. Family owned and when
you call you can be assured you will get very good information and
attentions from one of these family members. I have never had any complaint
with their products, material or service.

Sail Rite has a facility to computer design and cut sails for you and
deliver them all match marked so you just sew them together and finish the
the edges, etc.

They have instructional videos for most sail and canvas projects.

Prices of for raw materials are slightly higher but often you won't mind
since someone will be talking your through you project and make sure you get
the right stuff.

Enough Said.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


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one word. Sailrite.

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark








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one word. Sailrite.

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark










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On 01 Apr 2004 23:37:44 GMT, (MLapla4120) wrote:

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark


The standard answer to this question is to try Sailrite
www.sailrite.com. I've had one of their Sailmaker machines for over a
decade (I bought it used) and I wouldn't swap it for most people's
boats. It's overkill for your stated purposes (and mine as well) but
they have a much more extensive product line now, with some reasonably
priced machines that look perfectly adequate for a single user. I've
found their customer support to be flawless. Their emphasis is
self-sufficiency and they stock all kinds of spare parts, along with
CDROMs that shows exactly how to disassemble, reassemble, and tune
critical parts of the machine. I've used it when I buggered something
up, with the result that I feel I could fix the machine anywhere.
Sailrite does most of the large boat shows, and they always seem to
bring along a couple of machines for shoppers to try out.

That said, I'm sure you could find a perfectly serviceable machine
elsewhere, possibly for less. You mileage may vary, but I find
several features to be important:

A) As large an opening as possible to pass rolled up sails/canvas
through
B) Smooth, powerful feed mechanism
C) Ability to handle multiple layers of thick fabric. It's pretty
easy to get up around 10 layers of fabric doing canvas work
D) Handles the big industrial spools of dacron thread
E) It was a surprise to me, but a machine that's easy to hand crank
is very handy. In the sail loft, the guy operating the machine has
assistants and equipment to support and feed long rolls of sailcloth
through the machine. You may not be so lucky. When you have to stop
every few seconds to realign the fabric, you might find it easier and
more controllable to just hand crank. I often do.

Even with a great machine, quality work takes practice and patience. I
haven't got enough of either, but I found that I could turn out
serviceable pieces from the very beginning.

Good luck;

Glen

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On 01 Apr 2004 23:37:44 GMT, (MLapla4120) wrote:

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark


The standard answer to this question is to try Sailrite
www.sailrite.com. I've had one of their Sailmaker machines for over a
decade (I bought it used) and I wouldn't swap it for most people's
boats. It's overkill for your stated purposes (and mine as well) but
they have a much more extensive product line now, with some reasonably
priced machines that look perfectly adequate for a single user. I've
found their customer support to be flawless. Their emphasis is
self-sufficiency and they stock all kinds of spare parts, along with
CDROMs that shows exactly how to disassemble, reassemble, and tune
critical parts of the machine. I've used it when I buggered something
up, with the result that I feel I could fix the machine anywhere.
Sailrite does most of the large boat shows, and they always seem to
bring along a couple of machines for shoppers to try out.

That said, I'm sure you could find a perfectly serviceable machine
elsewhere, possibly for less. You mileage may vary, but I find
several features to be important:

A) As large an opening as possible to pass rolled up sails/canvas
through
B) Smooth, powerful feed mechanism
C) Ability to handle multiple layers of thick fabric. It's pretty
easy to get up around 10 layers of fabric doing canvas work
D) Handles the big industrial spools of dacron thread
E) It was a surprise to me, but a machine that's easy to hand crank
is very handy. In the sail loft, the guy operating the machine has
assistants and equipment to support and feed long rolls of sailcloth
through the machine. You may not be so lucky. When you have to stop
every few seconds to realign the fabric, you might find it easier and
more controllable to just hand crank. I often do.

Even with a great machine, quality work takes practice and patience. I
haven't got enough of either, but I found that I could turn out
serviceable pieces from the very beginning.

Good luck;

Glen

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Yea, what Glen said. I would add that Sailrite makes canvas needles for
regular machines. I've used these successfully on a regular home machine on
light to medium canvas stuff.

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"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
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On 01 Apr 2004 23:37:44 GMT, (MLapla4120) wrote:

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I

would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with

thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark


The standard answer to this question is to try Sailrite
www.sailrite.com. I've had one of their Sailmaker machines for over a
decade (I bought it used) and I wouldn't swap it for most people's
boats. It's overkill for your stated purposes (and mine as well) but
they have a much more extensive product line now, with some reasonably
priced machines that look perfectly adequate for a single user. I've
found their customer support to be flawless. Their emphasis is
self-sufficiency and they stock all kinds of spare parts, along with
CDROMs that shows exactly how to disassemble, reassemble, and tune
critical parts of the machine. I've used it when I buggered something
up, with the result that I feel I could fix the machine anywhere.
Sailrite does most of the large boat shows, and they always seem to
bring along a couple of machines for shoppers to try out.

That said, I'm sure you could find a perfectly serviceable machine
elsewhere, possibly for less. You mileage may vary, but I find
several features to be important:

A) As large an opening as possible to pass rolled up sails/canvas
through
B) Smooth, powerful feed mechanism
C) Ability to handle multiple layers of thick fabric. It's pretty
easy to get up around 10 layers of fabric doing canvas work
D) Handles the big industrial spools of dacron thread
E) It was a surprise to me, but a machine that's easy to hand crank
is very handy. In the sail loft, the guy operating the machine has
assistants and equipment to support and feed long rolls of sailcloth
through the machine. You may not be so lucky. When you have to stop
every few seconds to realign the fabric, you might find it easier and
more controllable to just hand crank. I often do.

Even with a great machine, quality work takes practice and patience. I
haven't got enough of either, but I found that I could turn out
serviceable pieces from the very beginning.

Good luck;

Glen

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

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Yea, what Glen said. I would add that Sailrite makes canvas needles for
regular machines. I've used these successfully on a regular home machine on
light to medium canvas stuff.

--


Keith
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My wife has a slight impediment in her speech. Every now and then she stops
to breathe. -Jimmy Durante
"Glen "Wiley" Wilson" wrote in
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On 01 Apr 2004 23:37:44 GMT, (MLapla4120) wrote:

Do you guys know of good sewing machines for sailwork, canvas work?
I'm thinking of getting one to make my own sails and canvas work. I

would
love to hear from people who have done this and are happy or not with

thier
purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Mark


The standard answer to this question is to try Sailrite
www.sailrite.com. I've had one of their Sailmaker machines for over a
decade (I bought it used) and I wouldn't swap it for most people's
boats. It's overkill for your stated purposes (and mine as well) but
they have a much more extensive product line now, with some reasonably
priced machines that look perfectly adequate for a single user. I've
found their customer support to be flawless. Their emphasis is
self-sufficiency and they stock all kinds of spare parts, along with
CDROMs that shows exactly how to disassemble, reassemble, and tune
critical parts of the machine. I've used it when I buggered something
up, with the result that I feel I could fix the machine anywhere.
Sailrite does most of the large boat shows, and they always seem to
bring along a couple of machines for shoppers to try out.

That said, I'm sure you could find a perfectly serviceable machine
elsewhere, possibly for less. You mileage may vary, but I find
several features to be important:

A) As large an opening as possible to pass rolled up sails/canvas
through
B) Smooth, powerful feed mechanism
C) Ability to handle multiple layers of thick fabric. It's pretty
easy to get up around 10 layers of fabric doing canvas work
D) Handles the big industrial spools of dacron thread
E) It was a surprise to me, but a machine that's easy to hand crank
is very handy. In the sail loft, the guy operating the machine has
assistants and equipment to support and feed long rolls of sailcloth
through the machine. You may not be so lucky. When you have to stop
every few seconds to realign the fabric, you might find it easier and
more controllable to just hand crank. I often do.

Even with a great machine, quality work takes practice and patience. I
haven't got enough of either, but I found that I could turn out
serviceable pieces from the very beginning.

Good luck;

Glen

__________________________________________________ __________
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To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/



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Glen "Wiley" Wilson wrote:
The standard answer to this question is to try Sailrite


Could these machines (the LSZ-1 for example) be used to sew clothes?

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