On Jul 3, 1:38*am, "Roger Long" wrote:

Now, that is just crap.

Hum, a little sensitive about this topic Roger?

*It is the kind of binary, black and white, either
or, thinking that as at the heart of the intellectual rot that is destroying
this culture.

I think we may have a misunderstanding. I will develop my idea more.


Try this,
Time at sea makes wiser and more experience sailors.

there is no causal releationship between doing a task and becoming
more skilled. No mater how many times I flapp my arns I aint gonna be
able to fly.

*Formal training and
other experience also do.


Here Ill say that training alone will not cause a person to become
more skilled. This is comming from a person who teahces a course
titled: BA 400 Employee Training & Deveolopment


Some sailors get wiser and are better at turning their experience into sound
judgement than others. *

No here we agree.

(Every standard deviation bell curve has two ends.)

ya but.... ftry a by-modal distribution where the wings are lager
than the first SD. In laymans terms the wing nuts out number the
middle.

No sailor will ever be wise and experienced enough for some of the the
conditions that may be encountered at sea.

Agreed. We can only strive to be better skilled unfortunatly just
doing somthing over and over and over (sea time) does not create smart
skilld operators. The fist time I worked in the GOM I was appauled at
the lubberly skill level of the OSV crews. Huge experince (sea time)
but little skill.

So the real question is: What makes a skilled mariner? How do yo get
to be good at sailing? How does LEARNING occure.

Roger Long
Bob