Boy, what a contentious issue. Just how long does it take to erect a Porta-Bote
anyway?

In our case, it probably takes us about a half hour to do the whole job aboard
our Ericson 38. So I can well agree with folks who say from 20 to 40 min. But
in my yard at home, with the parts nearby, I can probably do the job in 5
minutes. The difference is how long it takes to get everything set up and
hauled out of storage.

If someone says they can rig their inflatable in just 5 minutes, is that 5
minutes of just pumping, or does that include getting the boat out of storage?
When are you starting the clock?

And what’s with all the insults? Just because someone else takes longer to put
his together doesn’t make him an incompetent idiot.

Someone wrote:

-Padding Cabin Top
-securing boom out of the way

To which silver tongued BinaryBill replied:

Padding what? Securing what?

Well Bill, on my two sailboats, if I didn’t put down padding on the deck or
cabin house I would leave black marks everywhere from the black tubes. You
don’t have to do this, but it helps, and it adds an extra step.

And on my older boat (a Precision 23) the only place to erect the boat was on
the cabin house over the companionway. And to do that I had to move the boom
over to one side, just like the earlier skipper. Which takes several extra
steps to release the mainsheet and such.

This other skipper also wrote:

-rigging sling and launching dinghy

To which the ever tolerant and understanding BinaryBill replied:

It weighs 50 pounds, Marc! I pick it up and drop it over the
lifelines.

From the top of my lifelines to the water is close to 7 feet on my boat, which
is further than I care to drop the boat. Which is why I too use a lifting sling
to launch the boat, which takes up another part of that 30 minutes.

BinaryBill went on to insult a few more folks, underestimate the weight of his
boat, and generally show that he is so insecure that he has to be right about
everything. But if he can do all this in "WAY under 10 minutes," then he is
obviously a superior sailor to everyone else on usenet, and we should all
recognize him as such! (Maybe then he will shut up.)

Steve Christensen

bb, you don't have a Porta-Bote.

It weighs 50 pounds, Marc! I pick it up and drop it over the
lifelines.

bb, you just pegged the bs meter. A 12 foot Porta-Bote weighs 89 pounds,
PLUS
the (3, not 2 as you stated) seats PLUS the transom. The total is a lot
closer
to 120 pounds or more.

My 8 foot portabote weighs 50 pounds completely assembled with seats
and transome installed.


btw, you don't just tie the bote to the lifelines, you also tied the bote
tightly before taking it to the lifelines to store. the bote is stiff and
half
opens up on its own if you don't tie it together.

Incorrect. I lash it to the lifelines with two webbed straps as I
stated. You seem to have great trouble with very simple tasks. Do you
have rickets or something?


btw, the VAST majority of Porta-Botes are the 12 foot model, with most of
the
rest being 10 feet. Very few 8 foot Porta-Botes out there.

Really? Perhaps you better tell Portabote that. They seem to think the
8 footer is very popular.

In fact, I have
never seen one.

You've already shown that you are not very observant, or a reliable
witness.

12's and 10's have three seats. only the 8 has two seats.
the 8 footer is considered too small to use for more than one person under
most
conditions,

How odd! I ferry three adults, and their gear all the time. With just
me in the boat it planes when powered by my mighty Minnkota electric
motor.

and the 10 and 12's are very little more money.

But they take up far more room. We are talking about use as a tender
for a relatively small (under 35 feet) cruising sailboat. A 12 foot
ANYTHING would be dopey for that purpose. I guess that explains you
pretty well.

BB

Steve Christensen wrote

And what?s with all the insults? Just because someone else takes longer to put
his together doesn?t make him an incompetent idiot.

it does in Bills' case.

Steve Christensen wrote

And what?s with all the insults? Just because someone else takes longer to put
his together doesn?t make him an incompetent idiot.

it does in Bills' case.

In article ,
Steve Christensen wrote:

Someone wrote:

-Padding Cabin Top
-securing boom out of the way

To which silver tongued BinaryBill replied:

Padding what? Securing what?

Well Bill, on my two sailboats, if I didn’t put down padding on the deck or
cabin house I would leave black marks everywhere from the black tubes. You
don’t have to do this, but it helps, and it adds an extra step.

Those black marks can be eliminated. (Those tubes ARE a PITA, but they
do their job.)

Bronze wool the tubes to get the top layer of gunk off, then lay on a
couple of coats of Armor-All or something similar.

----

Oops, snipped too much. We assemble the PortaBote across the bow and
over the lifelines as they dive to the deck. Obviously, I have to slide
the PortaBote around as I move from center seat to transom, but I prefer
that to doing it on our side deck -- the advantage of a flush deck, --
but it's just a little tight.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

In article ,
Steve Christensen wrote:

Someone wrote:

-Padding Cabin Top
-securing boom out of the way

To which silver tongued BinaryBill replied:

Padding what? Securing what?

Well Bill, on my two sailboats, if I didn’t put down padding on the deck or
cabin house I would leave black marks everywhere from the black tubes. You
don’t have to do this, but it helps, and it adds an extra step.

Those black marks can be eliminated. (Those tubes ARE a PITA, but they
do their job.)

Bronze wool the tubes to get the top layer of gunk off, then lay on a
couple of coats of Armor-All or something similar.

----

Oops, snipped too much. We assemble the PortaBote across the bow and
over the lifelines as they dive to the deck. Obviously, I have to slide
the PortaBote around as I move from center seat to transom, but I prefer
that to doing it on our side deck -- the advantage of a flush deck, --
but it's just a little tight.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/