Economy is picking up.

Gas prices are falling.

The surge has worked.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=226600

So to "get back to normal" all we have to do is do something about the
proposed Obama 'projects': $880 Billion in increased social spending,
doubling the income tax rate for the middle class, also add an
additional 16-18% tax burden to cover 'health care', the proposed
doubling of capital gains, and tripling of dividend income taxes....
all this 'change' is shaping up to be one of the greatest 'transfers
of wealth' since the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution.

Most certainly if all of what comrade Obama proposes is enacted ....
then 'change' will be the ONLY thing left in your pocket.

On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:34:52 -0700, RichH wrote:

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moron

"Bob Willigs" wrote in message
...
Economy is picking up.

Gas prices are falling.

The surge has worked.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=226600


No reason to vote Democrat *anymore*????? Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!

For your information there never was any reason to vote Democrat in the
first place. It's even more pathetic that people even considering voting for
that communist clown Barack Obama and that socialist skank Hillary Clinton.

What do Democrats have to offer the country? Here's the short list - every
one of them highly destructive of freedom and democracy.

1) Higher taxes on just about everything they can think of.

2) More liberal judges who legislate from the bench. Pack the Supreme Court
with activist judges.

3) Weakened military and an open invitation to Islamic jihadists to come
have at us. Maybe we'll catch you terrorists and give you a lawyer and civil
trial after conferring upon you all the rights of a citizen of the U.S. Of
course all this will be a the taxpayer expense.

4) No drilling for oil or exploring for new reserves. No new nuclear
reactors to produce electricity. Moratorium on burning coal. No new
refineries allowed. Suck the strategic oil reserves dry so we have no
cushion if world oil supply lines become disrupted. More ethanol so grocery
prices can go sky high just like fuel prices.

5) Gay marriages and other liberal perversions encouraged.

6) More human caused global warming hysteria and lots of taxes based upon
the hoax.

7) More indoctrination taught in public schools and no teaching young minds
how to think - just what to think and how to toe the liberal line.

8) Open door policy on illegal aliens and citizenship automatically given to
any and all illegals who have already sneaked in. Sign them up as Democrats.

9) Obama will tell you what kind of car you can drive, what temperature you
can have in your home, what kind of light bulbs you can use, etc. etc. In
other words more nanny state rules and regulations. Hillary will try to
nationalize 'big oil'. Hillary will attempt to nationalize health care.
Income taxes across the board will go sky high and the Democrats will keep
spending more and more requiring even higher taxes.

10) A depression will develop worse than the Great Depression because
Democrats don't understand that high taxes destroy productivity and where
there is no productivity there is no economy.

I hope Barack wins the upcoming election because I would like to see all the
above come to pass. I will go live somewhere else and enjoy reading about
the suffering you have willingly brought upon yourselves because of your
gullible stupidity. I will sip cold rum drinks maybe in Belize or Costa Rica
or Bermuda or the Bahamas and enjoy my millions most of which I have already
secured in numbered offshore accounts. The Democrats will get NONE of my
money with their confiscatory tax policies. They WILL get your money,
though, and you deserve to be relieved of it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
ews.com...

I hope Barack wins the upcoming election because I would like to see all
the above come to pass. I will go live somewhere else and enjoy reading
about the suffering you have willingly brought upon yourselves because of
your gullible stupidity. I will sip cold rum drinks maybe in Belize or
Costa Rica or Bermuda or the Bahamas and enjoy my millions most of which I
have already secured in numbered offshore accounts. The Democrats will get
NONE of my money with their confiscatory tax policies. They WILL get your
money, though, and you deserve to be relieved of it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




Good Lord! The US Post Office must have one hell of a pension plan!

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:48:44 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

I hope Barack wins the upcoming election because I would like to see all
the above come to pass. I will go live somewhere else and enjoy reading
about the suffering you have willingly brought upon yourselves because
of
your gullible stupidity. I will sip cold rum drinks maybe in Belize or
Costa Rica or Bermuda or the Bahamas and enjoy my millions most of which
I
have already secured in numbered offshore accounts. The Democrats will
get
NONE of my money with their confiscatory tax policies. They WILL get
your
money, though, and you deserve to be relieved of it.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wilbur Hubbard
Allied Seawind 32, "Sea Isle"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




Good Lord! The US Post Office must have one hell of a pension plan!


Neal did not work for the USPS. He was a water meter reader for a
municipality. Somewhat similar looking uniform.


What was his theme song... 'Lovely Rita, Meter Maid'

On May 29, 8:05*am, "Bob Willigs" wrote:
Economy is picking up.

Gas prices are falling.


Err, what planet are you buying gasoline on? Yasee, Bob, when they
go from $3.89 to $3.99 in two days, that's "rising," not falling. And
what did voting Democrat have to do with gasoline prices anyway? Do
you or anyone else actually think that whomever is elected will have
any impact whatsoever on fuel prices? Wait a sec...maybe whomever's
elected in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. may have a bearing but not here.

Jay wrote:
On May 29, 8:05 am, "Bob Willigs" wrote:
Economy is picking up.

Gas prices are falling.


Err, what planet are you buying gasoline on? Yasee, Bob, when they
go from $3.89 to $3.99 in two days, that's "rising," not falling. And
what did voting Democrat have to do with gasoline prices anyway? Do
you or anyone else actually think that whomever is elected will have
any impact whatsoever on fuel prices? Wait a sec...maybe whomever's
elected in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. may have a bearing but not here.

Let's not forget that the Republicans (with the help of a few Dems from
auto and oil producing states) fought tooth and nail to prevent any
increase in the CAFE standards. Anyone stuck with a 13 MPG SUV has Bush
to thank for that.

I will say this: when I tallied to 2002 vote that tabled tightening the
regs, I found that among the few Republican dissenters (mainly from New
England) was John McCain.

The current 'average' tax load for middle class americans, including
pass along taxes from corporate products purchased, real estate,
school taxes, personal property taxes, inheritance taxes, AMT, general
sales and excise, local & state income, etc. taxes is in the
'neighborhood' of 45% of one's personal income.

Total current 'healthcare' portion of the GDP is running 16-18%.
With the apparent marxist shift in american 'government' ... will
increase income taxes by approx. additional 10% in income taxes
(already scheduled as the "Bush Tax cuts" are scheduled to soon
expire). So adding 18% (healthcare) + 10% to the apparent total of
45% already spent, american wil be paying (in total and includes 'pass-
along' taxes) of 45% +18%+10% = whopping 73% total tax rate based
one's total income and expenditures !!!!!!!!!!!
73% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

France has the highest EU direct taxes at 50% (but add another 25% for
VAT expenditures = 75%; Scandinavia at ~ 48% (+25% VAT) = 73%
total. With comrade Obama in control, the USA personal tax load will
be higher than in Scandinavia.


I just wonder what will happen to the total USA economy when the
capital gain and dividend taxes nearly double .... and that will cause
approx. 20-30% of the total investment in the USA economy by foreign
entities ... to be simply removed and reallocated to 'greener
pastures' of the world economy. One of the chief reasons for the
success of the USA economy has been the attractiveness of 'foreign'
investment .... and this will totally dry up when the CapGain and Div.
tax rates explode ... thus 'killing' the business economy.

Karl Marx would be very happy that the 'proletariat' iwill soon be
firmly in control of the USA. Ultimately the USA will become an
economic 'backwater' and will equal the totally restrained and low
economic productivity of the EU. .......This stark reality is coming
soon to a country near you. You want change .... you'll soon get
your 'change' and that will be the only thing left in your wallet.

In article
,
RichH wrote:


Total current 'healthcare' portion of the GDP is running 16-18%.

Which will cover the entire populations' UHC program, after removing all
the middle men making outrageous inflated profits from current costs.

UHC is a NO-COST option. We are already paying the equivalent of UHC and
NOT getting it for all our people.

snip erroneous tax conclusion

snip more doom and gloom)

With UHC, *preventative* medicine will help reduce the JIT methods used
today, and reduce the necessity of life-saving procedures.

My 2c (even tho this is the wrong place for this subject)

--
Molesworth