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What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
If you're in international waters, what jurisdiction does the FCC have?
-- Geoff |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
"Roger Long" wrote in
: How is it that the FCC sent my MMSI number and restricted and station permits right back when I notified them via application that I had just purchased a DSC radio? If they are serious about this, wouldn't that have been a good time to send a noticed saying, "Oh, by the way..." T The ship license has nothing, really, to do with the operator's license. FCC expects you to hire an operator for your "SHIP", just like Maersk Emma has. You are a ship owner, you know...(c; If you're not going to be signalling the yacht club shore station on DSC, and only use it for dire emergencies, I don't think they have a leg to stand on requiring you to have a GMDSS Operator's License.... Writing laws and enforcing them are different concepts.....just like everyone driving 75 in the 60 mph zone on the beltway. They can't arrest the whole population, I suppose. Even after you get your GMDSS Maintainer's License with Radar Endorsement....you still can't operate my 2 meter ham radio walkie talkie without a ham license, another complete absurdity that's never been corrected.... Your Grandfather would have been laying on the floor, holding his stomach and laughing his ass off at all this back in 1916...(c; 2ABT 73 DE W4CSC.....wherever you are. Boy, that would set a DX record hard to beat! |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
Geoff Schultz wrote in
: If you're in international waters, what jurisdiction does the FCC have? -- Geoff If you are a US Flagged vessel, FCC has worldwide control of your ship station, its licenses and YOU! If you are a UK Flagged vessel, another group of post office bureaucrats have worldwide control of your boat's transmitters. |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
On May 25, 4:51 pm, Larry wrote:
The FCC doesn't give a **** what CG license, if any, you hold. That is NOT an FCC license, which is required to operate FCC-jurisdiction equipment, except for the VHF FM inside the USA, license free. Sorry about the confusion. To be clear I hold both the Marine and Restricted Radio Operator's Permits and have a ship station for the boat. Those are FCC grants. I don't have any GMDSS/DSC endorsements. I take it that means I'm out of compliance if I use a DSC radio -- I don't yet. Still, I take a little comfort in being part of a really big class of people who are not in compliance. As you say, the whole thing is stupid. -- Tom. |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
Larry wrote in
: Geoff Schultz wrote in : If you're in international waters, what jurisdiction does the FCC have? -- Geoff If you are a US Flagged vessel, FCC has worldwide control of your ship station, its licenses and YOU! Thanks for making me laugh at the absurdity of the above statement! But really, what control does the FCC have over a vessel in international waters? Many countries have difficulty inforcing their own laws, let alone the US FCC laws. How many countries do you think have laws even covering this type of transmission? Are you telling me that when I've been using DSC to call another boat anchored at an atol off of Belize, that I should have been worried about a USCG ship pulling up to me and citing me for some FCC regulation that they claim that I've broken? If so, I laugh in your general direction! It seems that no one is enforcing these laws in the US let alone in international waters. To me it appears that this discussion is much ado about nothing. It reminds me of an article that I recently saw talking about jobs that I could legally do in my own house without bringing in a professional and/or pulling a permit. I was really glad to see that I've never done any of them! :-) -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
In article ,
Geoff Schultz wrote: If you're in international waters, what jurisdiction does the FCC have? -- Geoff If your a US Flagged Vessel, they have ALL the jurisdiction. -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
In article ,
Larry wrote: The direct printing telegraph was for MORSE, not ASCII, right? Actually No, it was Baudot, and NOT Morse. Sitor was also considered NBDP, under the rules, before GMDSS, and was incorporated into GMDSS by default. I suspect the FCC just lumped all Digital Modes into the GMDSS Label, and forgot to deal with the older NBDP stuff. I guess I should call some friends back at HQ, and ask where all this stands today, but I suspect that they really will not want to go "On the Record" with any answers at this point. -- Bruce in alaska add path after fast to reply |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
Geoff Schultz wrote in
: Thanks for making me laugh at the absurdity of the above statement! But really, what control does the FCC have over a vessel in international waters? I know the guy, because he's also a ham operator licensed in St Kitts- Nevis, who operated a pirate radio FM broadcast station from a large old sloop off NY City, many years back. The studio was in NYC and they microwaved the audio out to sea where a big generator drove a big transmitter beamed back into the USA from INTERNATIONAL WATERS they THOUGHT would protect them from the FCC. They thought wrong...... After several attempts to get them to stop, the FCC called in the US Navy, not a force to ignore like FCC bureaucrats and their lawyers. Navy sent out a ship, I forget which one, boarded the boat at gunpoint and ordered all humans off the boat into the Navy ship. As soon as that was accomplished, they motored away a little distance and used the sloop for gunnery practice, eliminating some rock and roll from the FM broadcast band rolling in from sea. Problem solved....Americans arrested, even though they actually lived in St Kitts. He returned to St Kitts after the jail term and ended up in Charleston years later working for Brother RG Stair on his Overcomer Ministries pirate shortwave ship project at Halsey-Cannon Boatyard, across from Deytens Shipyard in the Wando River. I got to see the installation of: http://www.hawkins.pair.com/voanc/voanc07.jpg this transmitter bought from govt surplus after Greenville closed down, pumping 70KW into a T cage antenna between two big towers fore and aft fed at the top of the fishing trawler's main hatch over the transmitter inside the fish hold in the bilge. Two 250KW gensets were welded on deck to provide power with lots of extra diesel tanks. To see what 70KW on 7.315 Mhz HF AM, go to www.qrz.com and put my ham call W4CSC into the ham lookup search box in the upper left corner of the webpage. I've uploaded a picture of me holding a 300,000 volt porcelain insulator that exploded right over my head inside the fish hold at full power after we all glowed blue for 20 minutes just standing in the fish hold with it running one feeder of the open wire feeders left open at the bottom of the insulator (balanced line feeders 600 ohm transmitter). Down the center of that insulator, a threaded rod fed the 70KW of RF power through the metal hatch to the base of the T antenna, the feed point. Before the explosion, we were getting about 38 amps of RF current on the antenna current meter, close to 600 ohms load at 70KW. I'm only holding the bottom half of the whole insulator, the wide end went to a big porcelain flange to clamp it to the big hole cut in the hatch. The top half is actually what exploded first into thousands of pieces of shrapnel spread across the deck. Noone is allowed outside when it's on the air because it could cook them like a microwave oven, so no harm done, except I peed my pants...(c; The FCC showed up a week later with a floating crane commandeered from Deytens Shipyard, a Navy contractor across the Wando. They dismantled the whole ship, taking all the radio equipment with them and leaving Br Stair with the yard bills and no broadcast station to take to Belize. The picture in the local newspaper was hilarious. It showed the stupid FCC engineer holding an old Heathkit DX-35 novice class ham rig for the photo op for the news, which puts out 35 watts on a good day and is no threat to anyone unless they're holding the power cord prongs when you plug it in. I have the picture cut from the paper here, somewhere. My buddy fled to St Kitts and I've lost contact with him. The trawler wasn't going to work, anyways. The heavy RF current flowing through the hull into the sea ground was EATING the hull. The first indication was when seawater entered the fresh water tankage in the bilge from a hole in the hull. Other holes soon opened up in the hull causing minor flooding and constant bilge pump running. They tried to stop it with grounding plates and zincs but RF is another animal entirely to galvanic action. We're talking about 38 AMPS, not 30 microamps of DC. It was fun while it lasted....(c; The souvenir insulator is in some drawer here somewhere....with a huge black streak from REAL LIGHTNING POWER down the side of it...burned right into the porcelain! Government has a LONG arm if provoked.....even to INTERNATIONAL WATERS. Ask any Iraqi or Afghan! |
What radio operator's license do you have? (US ONLY)
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