On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 22:09:22 GMT, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:32:58 -0500, DSK wrote:

Matt/Meribeth Pedersen wrote:

A couple of boats that come to mind are the Tartan 34 and Morgan
34. Both are similar in concept, if not in execution, to the Cal.
Tartan 34's have a good reputation and thus a higher price,
but Morgan owners love their boats too.

The Morgan would be a good tough cruising boat. A lot of people have
unreasonable prejudices against centerboards, though. At one time, all
of the working sailing vessels and most of the yachts on the east &
gulf coasts had them, so they can't be all bad.


Of course, if they were "all good" they would still be in the majority, dimwit.

At one time, oxen pulled plows to cultivate fields. At one time, buggy whip
manufacturers had a marketable product. At one time, Sails were all made of
heavy canvas.

Tougboat, you are the king of all nitwits.

BB

Considering that the poster said he was out of Corpus Christi and
most of the bays and anything out of the channel in that area is ultra
shallow, having a centerboard boat is an excellent idea. If you look
on a chart you will note that the Texas coast is almost all protected
by barrier islands and once inside most areas are less than 3 feet
deep. Inside those islands it's not an "if" but rather a "when" you
run aground. Depending on where you are, getting to a channel through
the islands can take many hours.
Remember most folks sail a whole lot more in their home waters than
they do on the big adventure trips.
BB be care full when you call others names because all to often it
backfires.

I took exception to
pompous pope DSK, who likes to pontificate and spew absolutes for all
occasions based on his extensive reading of old magazines.

BB

hey, bill. dougies also trailered his boat down 275 miles of Interstate 95 and
staunchly referred to it as "cruising", an experience he insisted set him apart
from those people who merely sail a few dozen miles every weekend.

I took exception to
pompous pope DSK, who likes to pontificate and spew absolutes for all
occasions based on his extensive reading of old magazines.

BB

JAXAshby wrote:
hey, bill. dougies also trailered his boat down 275 miles of Interstate 95 and
staunchly referred to it as "cruising", an experience he insisted set him apart
from those people who merely sail a few dozen miles every weekend.

Or those "people" (using the term loosely) such as yourself and
BittyBill, who hate & belittle everyone who has actually accomplished
anything in real life.

DSK

Or those "people" (using the term loosely) such as yourself and
BittyBill, who hate & belittle everyone who has actually accomplished
anything in real life.

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?

DSK

JAXAshby wrote:

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?

No, obviously it would be better to hunch in front of a keyboard for years,
building a reputation as the world's most obnoxious and yet at the same time,
most ignorant, usenet denizen.

But hey, at least you're famous.

DSK

JAXAshby wrote:
yes, dougies said that.

It's as true as the rest of Jax's posts.... ie only a fantasy...

Ask Jax about the scary rocks around Cape Hattaras, or submarines
attacking Seattle.

DSK

Subject: Best 34 foot blue water cruiser... Jax warning
From: (JAXAshby)

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?

Is that true! LOL

Capt. Bill

yes, dougies said that.

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a
more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?

Is that true! LOL

Capt. Bill

Texan wrote:
Considering that the poster said he was out of Corpus Christi and
most of the bays and anything out of the channel in that area is ultra
shallow, having a centerboard boat is an excellent idea.

True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?

True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
Doug King