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Gould 0738 March 15th 04 07:58 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
It's a fake smoke stack and it's decidedly tacky. Thousand of boats
have propane without needing a fake smoke stack.

BB


Propane, being heavier than air, must be allowed to find an unobstructed path
down and overboard if there should be any leakage. On a boat with high gunwales
and deck drains rather than conventional scuppers (I would have been happier
with conventional scuppers, btw,) that about eliminates almost any location
except a cabin top. Nothing below the top of the gunwale will do.

Under ABYC regs, a propane locker must have a top that can be "blown off" in
the unlikely event of an explosion.

The fake smokestack/propane locker, with a vent at the base, meets all the
essential standards.

Is there anything on your sailboat that is modified to look a little better
than the plain, functional, minimalist appliance might? Any portion of a system
that is cosmetically concealed? My best guess would be, "of course."

You are entitled to your opinion about "tacky" by the way. People disagree on
what's good looking, vs. not. Ever have a buddy who raved on, non-stop, about
the gorgeous new gal he was dating......
and then when you finally got to meet this
purported "10" you personally figured her for about a 5 1/2? Seems like it's
always that way with boats. You don't have to like mine. It merely shows our
tastes are different, rather than objectively defining those tastes as superior
or inferior.

(Human nature, of course, will dictate that we each consider our own taste
superior).



DSK March 15th 04 09:47 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
wrote:
... There is nothing on my sailboat that pretends to be
something else.


Except the "skipper."

DSK


DSK March 15th 04 10:27 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
wrote:
... You are the one who was
such a failure at sailing that you had to by a waterborne SUV.


I'm a failiure at sailing? That's going to come as a big surprise to the
people I've raced with & against. Does this mean I have to give all that
silver back?

From the viewpoint of a bitter & poverty stricken (in more ways than
one) keyboard jockey, maybe I am a failure. Y'know what? It doesn't
bother me, BittyBill.

The most ironic thing is that I got started in this thread to give some
advice to somebody who was asking specifically about a boat I've sailed
quite a lot, and know well. If I'm a "failure" then I guess it's a good
thing he didn't listen anyway!

DSK


JAXAshby March 15th 04 10:32 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
If I'm a "failure" then I guess it's a good
thing he didn't listen anyway!

DSK



and, so it goes.

DSK March 15th 04 10:46 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
wrote:
You haven't sailed any boat "quite a lot". That's for sure.


Wrong again. Congratulations on your perfect record.

I've poured more salt water out of my shoe than you've sailed over. In
fact, more than you and Jax together....

Why are you here again? To talk sailing? Doesn't look that way.

DSK


Gould 0738 March 15th 04 10:59 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
The fake smoke stack is akin to those phony "Va-room" motors that kids
put on their bicycles so they could pretend they have a motorcycle.

BB


I am *so* wounded........ :-)

JAXAshby March 15th 04 11:15 PM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
I've poured more salt water out of my shoe than you've sailed over. In
fact, more than you and Jax together....


they got a lot of salt water in rest stop parking lots on Interstate 95?



bb March 16th 04 01:51 AM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:44:54 -0500, DSK wrote:

What I really like about the smokestack is the way it attracts the attention of
all the envious cretins who will never be able to afford a boat with one.


My $.02, I like the fake smoke stack. Great storage area, and it
makes the boat look salty to boot. It's sorta like the utility shed
out back that looks like a horse barn. Sure, you coulda just put up a
shed with four walls, a roof and a door, and it would have done the
same thing, but a shed with some character, imo, is a little better.
Do I have horses in my back yard? No. Do I prefer a utility shed
that looks like a barn rather than a utility shed? Yes.

bb


DSK March 16th 04 02:09 AM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
wrote:
Please provide something that can be verified. From your postings, it doesn't
appear that you have done more than sail a few times on someone else's boat. You
are a classic armchair sailor.


heh heh heh

Glad you think so, sock puppet master.

Tell us about some of *your* sailing experiences. I have told about
enough of mine that the real sailors in the crowd can make up their own
minds.

DSK


Bob Whitaker March 16th 04 05:29 AM

Best 34 foot blue water cruiser
 
Frank Maier wrote:

I'm a big fan of the Freedom line; so, my recommendation
would be an early 80s Freedom 32, with a sugarscoop added
to make it a 34.

Hello Frank,

Thanks for the input. What are the features you like most about them?
Is it their sailing characteristics? Is it your familiarity with them
and loyalty to your first love? (a perfectly valid reason :o) Is it
their strength? Workmanship? Have you been caught in nasty weather in
one? How did it handle? I know that this is a question without a
single answer. There's probably as many answers to this question as
there are 34 foot models out there. But it would be fun compiling a
list of the top 10, and the reasons why their owners felt that way. I
may try to post another thread one of these days, seeing as the
original post quickly turned to a mud-slinging festival.

Thanks,

Bob Whitaker
"Free Spirit"


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