Thanks for the pointers!

I did a little hunting around because Fugawi's only runs on NT, 2000
and XP, for some reason yet to be discovered, probably related to
reporting in background. That's usually the reason, now. I found a
program for the rest of us called SeeMyDEnc from www.sevencs.com in
Hamburg, Germany. It hasn't asked for money, yet, but may be
shareware. It runs under Win95, 98, ME, NT, 2000 and Linux, which is
nice. My system is Win98SE, because I don't like copy protected XP
saying NO BOOT if I change hardware. I'm downloading all 196MB of the
chart data, now, so I'll test SeeMyDEnc and see how it works. There
are a couple of other ENC freeware programs I saw in my search, too,
that didn't require networking and sharing to boot.



On 07 Mar 2004 07:36:24 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html


Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

I don't know what I was thinking.
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!





Good news, Larry

NOAA has released electronic charts, free.

Here's the secret handshake:

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

These are ENC format charts, and they require a "viewer". A viewer can be
downloaded, free, at www.fugawi.com/viewenc/viewenc.html

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:15:10 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!

I'm surprised to hear you complain about the gumint actually recouping
some of it's cost, a savings to the taxpayers, and even using private
industry to affect it. Is it because this just happens to be an area
that you'd like to benefit from even though the vast majority of
taxpayers have no use for free nautical charts?

Steve

I don't know what I was thinking.
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 04:15:10 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!

I'm surprised to hear you complain about the gumint actually recouping
some of it's cost, a savings to the taxpayers, and even using private
industry to affect it. Is it because this just happens to be an area
that you'd like to benefit from even though the vast majority of
taxpayers have no use for free nautical charts?

Steve

What is ICW?

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:47:10 -0500, "mcorwin"
wrote:

Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael



Surely you jest.......

Just because your taxes paid for the damned charts, cartography that
drew them and all the research that went into them....that doesn't
mean you actually can USE or download them without paying some 3rd
party who's bribed your government for exclusive rights to them......

Dammit all....Someone should hang!



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

this works for just about anything.earnie

http://mapserver.maptech.com/bp/mapserver/index.cfm

"mcorwin" wrote in message
...
Hi- does anyone know of a web site where I could view charts of the ICW?
TIA, Michael

Funny thing is I checked the available charts of the gulf coast of
florida and they are marked up with survey data. viewed on free viewer
but can't find them in my files with Capt'n. Format is only viewable
with programs licensed to view.
Still have to find detailed electronic charts of the gulf coast for
capt'n, as the free charts won't work for me. I refuse to upgrade from
98se to xp just to look at charts. after all I did upgrade windows
3.1 to 98 to have tide charts work.
I still prefer the paper charts in old chartbook form for actual
navigation, I still don't trust pc not crash while underway
Dave