JimC wrote:

I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there
somewhere, but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.
I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs
can fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty

"Marty" wrote in message
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JimC wrote:

I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there somewhere,
but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.
I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs can
fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty


Wait.. right there. You missed it!

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
JimC wrote:
I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there somewhere,
but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.
I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs can
fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty


Wait.. right there. You missed it!



Jon, there are four possibilities he

1) JimC is just playing devils advocate and is having fun being
deliberately obtuse.

2) JimC has a serious mental deficiency and actually believes a Mac26X
to be a fine sailing vessel suitable for competition in the TransPac.

3) JimC is in the employ of MacGregor, and or owns shares in the company.

4) Some combination of the above.

Cheers
Marty

"Marty" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
JimC wrote:
I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there
somewhere, but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.
I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs
can fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty


Wait.. right there. You missed it!



Jon, there are four possibilities he

1) JimC is just playing devils advocate and is having fun being
deliberately obtuse.

2) JimC has a serious mental deficiency and actually believes a Mac26X to
be a fine sailing vessel suitable for competition in the TransPac.

3) JimC is in the employ of MacGregor, and or owns shares in the company.

4) Some combination of the above.

Cheers
Marty


I think there's a #5... Macs are, in fact, the most seaworthy boats that are
designed for the rigorous conditions one could encounter anywhere in the
vast oceans. Not only be unsinkable, even by fools such as us, they are
fast, look great, and are only sold to sailors who are the most deserving of
them - highly skilled seafarers of which there are few. The reason that we
believe they don't participate in competitions, such as the TransPac, is
because of the evil media, who are in cahoots with the other manufacturers.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:


I think there's a #5... Macs are, in fact, the most seaworthy boats that are
designed for the rigorous conditions one could encounter anywhere in the
vast oceans. Not only be unsinkable, even by fools such as us, they are
fast, look great, and are only sold to sailors who are the most deserving of
them - highly skilled seafarers of which there are few. The reason that we
believe they don't participate in competitions, such as the TransPac, is
because of the evil media, who are in cahoots with the other manufacturers.


Thanks Jon, I hadn't considered that possibility. Damn sporting of those
Mac owners not to put us mere mortals to shame by thrashing us in such
races.

Cheers
Marty

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:


I think there's a #5... Macs are, in fact, the most seaworthy boats that
are designed for the rigorous conditions one could encounter anywhere in
the vast oceans. Not only be unsinkable, even by fools such as us, they
are fast, look great, and are only sold to sailors who are the most
deserving of them - highly skilled seafarers of which there are few. The
reason that we believe they don't participate in competitions, such as
the TransPac, is because of the evil media, who are in cahoots with the
other manufacturers.


Thanks Jon, I hadn't considered that possibility. Damn sporting of those
Mac owners not to put us mere mortals to shame by thrashing us in such
races.

Cheers
Marty


They have our best interest in mind at all times.. especially when zooming
back to port in case there's wind a'comin.


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www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
news:l8OdnbHUTe1kC4vVnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@giganews. com...

JimC wrote:

I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there
somewhere, but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.

I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs
can fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty


Wait.. right there. You missed it!



Jon, there are four possibilities he

1) JimC is just playing devils advocate and is having fun being
deliberately obtuse.

2) JimC has a serious mental deficiency and actually believes a Mac26X to
be a fine sailing vessel suitable for competition in the TransPac.

3) JimC is in the employ of MacGregor, and or owns shares in the company.

4) Some combination of the above.

Cheers
Marty



I think there's a #5... Macs are, in fact, the most seaworthy boats that are
designed for the rigorous conditions one could encounter anywhere in the
vast oceans. Not only be unsinkable, even by fools such as us, they are
fast, look great, and are only sold to sailors who are the most deserving of
them - highly skilled seafarers of which there are few. The reason that we
believe they don't participate in competitions, such as the TransPac, is
because of the evil media, who are in cahoots with the other manufacturers.


Ganz, you're obviously loosing it. Have you considered getting
professional help?

jim

"JimC" wrote in message
...
Jon, there are four possibilities he

1) JimC is just playing devils advocate and is having fun being
deliberately obtuse.

2) JimC has a serious mental deficiency and actually believes a Mac26X to
be a fine sailing vessel suitable for competition in the TransPac.

3) JimC is in the employ of MacGregor, and or owns shares in the company.

4) Some combination of the above.

Cheers
Marty



I think there's a #5... Macs are, in fact, the most seaworthy boats that
are designed for the rigorous conditions one could encounter anywhere in
the vast oceans. Not only be unsinkable, even by fools such as us, they
are fast, look great, and are only sold to sailors who are the most
deserving of them - highly skilled seafarers of which there are few. The
reason that we believe they don't participate in competitions, such as
the TransPac, is because of the evil media, who are in cahoots with the
other manufacturers.


Ganz, you're obviously loosing it. Have you considered getting
professional help?

jim



You have no sense of humor... that's obvious. Are you really a twit or just
playing one?

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www.sailnow.com

Marty wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
...

JimC wrote:

I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there
somewhere, but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.

I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore
pigs can fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty



Wait.. right there. You missed it!



Jon, there are four possibilities he

1) JimC is just playing devils advocate and is having fun being
deliberately obtuse.

2) JimC has a serious mental deficiency and actually believes a Mac26X
to be a fine sailing vessel suitable for competition in the TransPac.

3) JimC is in the employ of MacGregor, and or owns shares in the company.

4) Some combination of the above.

Cheers
Marty

Actually, JimC is responding to every rational (or even arguably
rational) note posted by any and all Mac-Bashers on the newsgroup. -
Come one, come all, and I'll provide a response. (Except for those in
bad taste, and obviously sicko remarks such as those recently posted by
Ganz. - He's obviously loosing it.)

What JimC is NOT going to do is post responses to Mac-Bashers asking him
to defend positions that he doesn't hold, or statements he didn't make.

Jim

Marty wrote:

JimC wrote:


I'm not saying that there might not be such a report out there
somewhere, but so far no one on this ng has been able to produce it.

Your move.

I see no reports of flying pigs crashing to the ground, therefore pigs
can fly.

Are really that dense?

Cheers
Marty


Cute, Marty. Of course, you are evading the points made in my previous
responses as to what I DID and DID NOT say. - See below:



Jeff, you seem to love posting responses to what you THINK I said, or
what you would LIKED for me to have said, or what your caracature of Mac
owners WOULD have said, rather than what I did say. As previously noted,
I have not stated that the Mac is suitable for extensive blue water
sailing or extended crossings. In fact, I said just the opposite, that
it isn't a blue water boat suited for extended crossings.

Note also that I didn't say that they are routinely sailed offshore in
difficult conditions. - I merely stated that if Joe had been on a
Mac26, with its positive floatation, I thought his boat would have
stayed afloat, permitting him to recover it rather than having it sink
to the floor of the Gulf of Mexico.

Please note that it wasn't me who initiated the assertions that the Mac
would break up and sink (or roll over and over like a washing machine)
in heavy weather conditions. - It was Ganz, and a few of his
Mac-baching buddies.

MY ASSERTION WAS THAT NEITHER GANZ, OR ANY OF HIS MAC-BASHING BUDDIES,
HAVE PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE MAC WOULD BREAK UP AND SINK IN HEAVY
WEATHER CONDITIONS.

I stand by and will continue to support THAT assertion. However, don't
put words in my mouth and ask me to support assertions you wish I had
made, or thought I had made, but didn't.

Jim