http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp
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Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2
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http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp

I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a
Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg.

Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and
"helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead,
and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is
always called for.

WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO
SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS
OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?!

You'll never see that called for because that would hurt the DEALERS THAT
SOLD IT TO HIM. It's just peachy ok to build and sell motorcycles whos
speedometer tops out at 450 mph.....to the dumbest recipients of the Darwin
Awards.

My 250 will cruise just as fast as the traffic on the interstate....Isn't
that fast enough? No, we need a production motorcycle...sports car...hot
Japanese drifter...that will do 0 to 120 in 4.8 seconds.

No motorcycles over 250CC....
No cars over 120hp....
No pickup trucks, either.

.....and MOST IMPORTANT.....

EVERYONE'S FRONT AND REAR BUMPERS MUST ALL BE AT EXACTLY THE SAME HEIGHT AS
A 1985 FORD SEDAN....or some STANDARD height! Any variation over 1" MUST
result in confiscation and disposal of the offending vehicle....no
exceptions.

****heads like this jerk give motorcycling a bad name.....

Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2
@corp.supernews.com:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp

I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a
Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg.

Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and
"helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead,
and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is
always called for.

WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO
SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS
OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?!
Snip


****heads like this jerk give motorcycling a bad name.....


Not anymore!
G

On 2008-03-23, Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in news:13ub7cpg8rflcd2
@corp.supernews.com:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp

I'm a motorcyclist, and have been since I was 15. My current bike is a
Honda Reflex 250cc scooter, the perfect vehicle for city driving at 80 mpg.

Notice how the call for "increased motorcycle safety awareness" and
"helmets", which is what hung this guy from the truck until he was dead,
and more penalties, always more jail time, which never does anything is
always called for.

So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to
put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having
to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet
hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead
sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may
have just "banged his head".


WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH LIMITING THE SIZE OF MOTORCYCLE ENGINES TO
SOMETHING LESS THAN THE 500HP SUZUKI HAYABUSA OR THE 1,800CC HONDA MONSTERS
OR THE 1,500CC HARLEY BEASTS?!

The 1500 Harleys aren't the problem, though, they're generally cruising
bikes, as are the big Hondas. Most of those guys aren't interested in
those kind of speeds.

WRT 250cc limit, have you ever seen MotoGP? There is a 250cc class that
is easily faster than the claimed 124mph of the deceased rider.


You'll never see that called for because that would hurt the DEALERS THAT
SOLD IT TO HIM. It's just peachy ok to build and sell motorcycles whos
speedometer tops out at 450 mph.....to the dumbest recipients of the Darwin
Awards.

You'll never see it because it's not the dealers fault. Guns don't kill
people, people do. WRT the Darwin Awards, I'm pro-natural selection,
bring it on - it's got to be better than what we have in the civilised
world today.


My 250 will cruise just as fast as the traffic on the interstate....Isn't
that fast enough? No, we need a production motorcycle...sports car...hot
Japanese drifter...that will do 0 to 120 in 4.8 seconds.

There we have it in plain black and white: it's enough for me, no body
should have more. Will your next target be how much alcohol I drink? How
much tobacco I smoke? How many rounds I squeeze off over the weekend?
Or how about the fat content of my diet? Or the caffeine content of my
coffee? Where will those "who know best" finish restricting people's
choices?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Justin C wrote in
e.com:

So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to
put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having
to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet
hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead
sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may
have just "banged his head".



At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c;

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Justin C wrote in
e.com:

So if he hadn't been wearing the helmet, the force that was enough to
put at helmet *through* the truck wouldn't have meant the driver having
to hose the bikers brains off the back of his trailer? If the helmet
hung him, then he was unfortunate, without it he would have been dead
sooner. On the other hand, if he'd been 6 inches to his left, he may
have just "banged his head".



At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c;



I believe it. I dumped my old KZ350 when I came around a corner and realized
the road had washed out. Put the bike down and let it go. I didn't realize
it in the moment, but my helmet was apparently bouncing on the pavement
until I stopped sliding. It was crushed side-to-side, and it took two people
to get it off my head. I was only doing about 45. I also had road-rash from
my ankle to my shoulder.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in news:13ue73ilp3ctef1
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KZ350

"Kawasaki Let's The Good Times Roll!"

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:13:55 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

my helmet was apparently bouncing on the pavement
until I stopped sliding. It was crushed side-to-side, and it took two people
to get it off my head. I was only doing about 45. I also had road-rash from
my ankle to my shoulder.

I have had doubts about the ability of a helmet to protect from
impact. However, you will note the head was spared from road rash. No
scraped off face.

Casady

Larry opined:
At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c;

Back when I started riding the DOT rules were to test helmets for a max
of 3mph crash protection. That consisted of dropping a small weight on
it from some specified height and if it didn't crack or deform past a
certain point then it passed and was "DOT certified". Basically that
meant that any helmet made from something stronger than paper mache'
passed. To be effective in any sort of real crash (other than for road
rash) it is the thickness and properties of the padding inside that
determines its protective effectiveness. I talked to a surgeon once who
said that with helmets on in a hard smack the person usually dies from
brain swelling - which he said would be orders of magnitude more painful
and just as deadly as crushing the skull, or, they would die from a
broken neck from the helmet rebounding from the stored energy. Ya pays
yer dues, ya takes yer chances...

"Red" wrote in message
...
Larry opined:
At 125 mph, a helmet never saved anyone. It's one of Darwin's laws...(c;

Back when I started riding the DOT rules were to test helmets for a max of
3mph crash protection. That consisted of dropping a small weight on it
from some specified height and if it didn't crack or deform past a certain
point then it passed and was "DOT certified". Basically that meant that
any helmet made from something stronger than paper mache' passed. To be
effective in any sort of real crash (other than for road rash) it is the
thickness and properties of the padding inside that determines its
protective effectiveness. I talked to a surgeon once who said that with
helmets on in a hard smack the person usually dies from brain swelling -
which he said would be orders of magnitude more painful and just as deadly
as crushing the skull, or, they would die from a broken neck from the
helmet rebounding from the stored energy. Ya pays yer dues, ya takes yer
chances...

Might be smarter to just outlaw motorcycles.
There goes that Harley Davidson 'Rocker' and the 'Indian Chief' I was trying
to decide on.