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Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:21 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
I checked with the Goddess of Canvas and she says that there
is indeed a Sunbrella for interior use (sorry, my mistake) it is
lighter weight and no waterproofing hense the softer hand. She
isn't sure if it has the UV treatment. We don't use it much. There
are so may fabrics for upolstry available that few of our
customers choose Sunbrella.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Sunbrella does make a line for indoor use on boats. I had my pilothouse
watch berth covered with it. I guess it's got a better "feel" but not as
durable, since it's not designed for full time weather exposure.

--


Keith
__
Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Correct, but the upolstery grade is still intended for outdoor
use (patio furniture, etc). Not aware of any product under
the Sunbrella name that is intended primarily for indoor use.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Same thing. the upholstery grade has a softer 'hand'.


In article , Doug Dotson
wrote:

Never heard of "interior" vs "exterior" Sunbrella. There are two
grades but they are more appropriately designated as "Marine"
grade vs "Upolstery" grade. The marine grade comes in wider widths
and is a bit heavier.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Most "to-the-trade" wholesale fabric distributors (especially in

major
coastal cities) will have excellent prices for sunbrella. I

guess
the
same would apply to the Gr. Lakes, etc. or anyplace there is a lot

of
boating activity. Be careful when you specify as the 'trade' uses

two
distinct grades of Sunbrella - interior and exterior. Cash on the
barrel head only. If you have a legit. company letterhead, etc.

they
will ship.




In article , Steve
wrote:

I have been searching for a good price on Sunbrella in

quantities
less
than
a full roll.. (it seems a full roll is the best deal but that

would
be
200
yds).

Sail Rite is good and they have always treated me well, but

their
per yd
price was more than I wanted to pay for my needs.

This week, I did another Google and came up with Outdoor

Textiles





https://outdoortextiles.securedigita...ESSID=22b3dd66

e45c32fae2766eac5ae165cb&PHPSESSID=22b3dd66e45c32f ae2766eac5ae165cb

They sell by the yard and the price break starts at +5 yards.

60"
for
5
yards is $17 and 5+ yard is $14.40. Similar prices for 46"

material..

My order was for 10 yds and there was no shipping charge.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions











Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:38 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
The Goddess of Canvas says that the recommended technique is
to use a mild detergent with just a tiny bit of bleach in it and go after
it with a soft brush. In some cases it may remove the waterproofing
depending upon the age of the Sunbrella etc, so you may have to
treat it with 303 or Aqua-Tite to restore the waterproofing. The
bad side of that is once you start treating it, you usually have to
do it every season. We sent our bimini and transition piece to an
outfit that cleans and restores the UV and waterproofing. Not
cheap but it's better than anything that you can do yourself.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Jay" wrote in message
...
While we're talking about sunbrella --
Anyone know of any good technique for getting water stains out of that
material? I have a bow cover that had some water sit on it till it
evaporated and has now left a faint brownish water stain.....

-j

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Sunbrella does make a line for indoor use on boats. I had my pilothouse
watch berth covered with it. I guess it's got a better "feel" but not as
durable, since it's not designed for full time weather exposure.

--


Keith
__
Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Correct, but the upolstery grade is still intended for outdoor
use (patio furniture, etc). Not aware of any product under
the Sunbrella name that is intended primarily for indoor use.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Same thing. the upholstery grade has a softer 'hand'.


In article , Doug Dotson
wrote:

Never heard of "interior" vs "exterior" Sunbrella. There are two
grades but they are more appropriately designated as "Marine"
grade vs "Upolstery" grade. The marine grade comes in wider widths
and is a bit heavier.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Most "to-the-trade" wholesale fabric distributors (especially in

major
coastal cities) will have excellent prices for sunbrella. I

guess
the
same would apply to the Gr. Lakes, etc. or anyplace there is a

lot
of
boating activity. Be careful when you specify as the 'trade'

uses
two
distinct grades of Sunbrella - interior and exterior. Cash on

the
barrel head only. If you have a legit. company letterhead, etc.

they
will ship.




In article , Steve
wrote:

I have been searching for a good price on Sunbrella in

quantities
less
than
a full roll.. (it seems a full roll is the best deal but that

would
be
200
yds).

Sail Rite is good and they have always treated me well, but

their
per yd
price was more than I wanted to pay for my needs.

This week, I did another Google and came up with Outdoor

Textiles






https://outdoortextiles.securedigita...ESSID=22b3dd66

e45c32fae2766eac5ae165cb&PHPSESSID=22b3dd66e45c32f ae2766eac5ae165cb

They sell by the yard and the price break starts at +5 yards.

60"
for
5
yards is $17 and 5+ yard is $14.40. Similar prices for 46"
material..

My order was for 10 yds and there was no shipping charge.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions













Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:38 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
The Goddess of Canvas says that the recommended technique is
to use a mild detergent with just a tiny bit of bleach in it and go after
it with a soft brush. In some cases it may remove the waterproofing
depending upon the age of the Sunbrella etc, so you may have to
treat it with 303 or Aqua-Tite to restore the waterproofing. The
bad side of that is once you start treating it, you usually have to
do it every season. We sent our bimini and transition piece to an
outfit that cleans and restores the UV and waterproofing. Not
cheap but it's better than anything that you can do yourself.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Jay" wrote in message
...
While we're talking about sunbrella --
Anyone know of any good technique for getting water stains out of that
material? I have a bow cover that had some water sit on it till it
evaporated and has now left a faint brownish water stain.....

-j

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Sunbrella does make a line for indoor use on boats. I had my pilothouse
watch berth covered with it. I guess it's got a better "feel" but not as
durable, since it's not designed for full time weather exposure.

--


Keith
__
Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.
"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
Correct, but the upolstery grade is still intended for outdoor
use (patio furniture, etc). Not aware of any product under
the Sunbrella name that is intended primarily for indoor use.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Same thing. the upholstery grade has a softer 'hand'.


In article , Doug Dotson
wrote:

Never heard of "interior" vs "exterior" Sunbrella. There are two
grades but they are more appropriately designated as "Marine"
grade vs "Upolstery" grade. The marine grade comes in wider widths
and is a bit heavier.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...
Most "to-the-trade" wholesale fabric distributors (especially in

major
coastal cities) will have excellent prices for sunbrella. I

guess
the
same would apply to the Gr. Lakes, etc. or anyplace there is a

lot
of
boating activity. Be careful when you specify as the 'trade'

uses
two
distinct grades of Sunbrella - interior and exterior. Cash on

the
barrel head only. If you have a legit. company letterhead, etc.

they
will ship.




In article , Steve
wrote:

I have been searching for a good price on Sunbrella in

quantities
less
than
a full roll.. (it seems a full roll is the best deal but that

would
be
200
yds).

Sail Rite is good and they have always treated me well, but

their
per yd
price was more than I wanted to pay for my needs.

This week, I did another Google and came up with Outdoor

Textiles






https://outdoortextiles.securedigita...ESSID=22b3dd66

e45c32fae2766eac5ae165cb&PHPSESSID=22b3dd66e45c32f ae2766eac5ae165cb

They sell by the yard and the price break starts at +5 yards.

60"
for
5
yards is $17 and 5+ yard is $14.40. Similar prices for 46"
material..

My order was for 10 yds and there was no shipping charge.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions













Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:42 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
Hey, hey! Our whole boat is done in Burgundy. Pacific Blue is falling
out of favor around here (know popularly as Boat Blue). Captain
Navy has been most popular color around here for the last few years,
with burgundy, tan, and green close behind.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yah! I been watching for Pacific Blue #4601 or #6001 on eBay, but I must
have missed out on that one.. Most of the colors I have seen are those odd
colors, like Burgundy, etc.

I'm kinda committed to the Pacific Blue because I had several yards of it
already and I made the sleeve for the furled head sail already..

So far this price is the best I have found for what I need and the fact

that
their minimum order is low and free shipping..

For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:42 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
Hey, hey! Our whole boat is done in Burgundy. Pacific Blue is falling
out of favor around here (know popularly as Boat Blue). Captain
Navy has been most popular color around here for the last few years,
with burgundy, tan, and green close behind.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yah! I been watching for Pacific Blue #4601 or #6001 on eBay, but I must
have missed out on that one.. Most of the colors I have seen are those odd
colors, like Burgundy, etc.

I'm kinda committed to the Pacific Blue because I had several yards of it
already and I made the sleeve for the furled head sail already..

So far this price is the best I have found for what I need and the fact

that
their minimum order is low and free shipping..

For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:48 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
They are fibbing to you. Our cost for Sunbrella is quite a bit
less than $12/yd, and I'm sure we don't buy as much as North does.
We are starting to do alot of work in Stamoid which costs a bit more
but is more durable than Sunbrella. It is a vinyl type fabric though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Mark" wrote in message
om...
For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises

using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


Ya do gotta watch out. I got convinced into buying what was "Dyklon"
once and although it held up for a coupla years, it is definitely
dying now while the Sunbrella stuff is still holding up.

I just buy Sunbrella at North Sails at their cost, 12 bucks a yard or
so.




Doug Dotson February 28th 04 11:48 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
They are fibbing to you. Our cost for Sunbrella is quite a bit
less than $12/yd, and I'm sure we don't buy as much as North does.
We are starting to do alot of work in Stamoid which costs a bit more
but is more durable than Sunbrella. It is a vinyl type fabric though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Mark" wrote in message
om...
For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises

using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions


Ya do gotta watch out. I got convinced into buying what was "Dyklon"
once and although it held up for a coupla years, it is definitely
dying now while the Sunbrella stuff is still holding up.

I just buy Sunbrella at North Sails at their cost, 12 bucks a yard or
so.




felton March 1st 04 02:19 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:42:40 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Hey, hey! Our whole boat is done in Burgundy. Pacific Blue is falling
out of favor around here (know popularly as Boat Blue). Captain
Navy has been most popular color around here for the last few years,
with burgundy, tan, and green close behind.

Doug
s/v Callista


I know what you mean about Pacific Blue. I have all my canvas in
Pacific Blue Tweed. Same general color family but looks much richer
to me and seems to avoid looking dirty, even when it is:)


"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yah! I been watching for Pacific Blue #4601 or #6001 on eBay, but I must
have missed out on that one.. Most of the colors I have seen are those odd
colors, like Burgundy, etc.

I'm kinda committed to the Pacific Blue because I had several yards of it
already and I made the sleeve for the furled head sail already..

So far this price is the best I have found for what I need and the fact

that
their minimum order is low and free shipping..

For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





felton March 1st 04 02:19 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:42:40 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Hey, hey! Our whole boat is done in Burgundy. Pacific Blue is falling
out of favor around here (know popularly as Boat Blue). Captain
Navy has been most popular color around here for the last few years,
with burgundy, tan, and green close behind.

Doug
s/v Callista


I know what you mean about Pacific Blue. I have all my canvas in
Pacific Blue Tweed. Same general color family but looks much richer
to me and seems to avoid looking dirty, even when it is:)


"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yah! I been watching for Pacific Blue #4601 or #6001 on eBay, but I must
have missed out on that one.. Most of the colors I have seen are those odd
colors, like Burgundy, etc.

I'm kinda committed to the Pacific Blue because I had several yards of it
already and I made the sleeve for the furled head sail already..

So far this price is the best I have found for what I need and the fact

that
their minimum order is low and free shipping..

For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Rosalie B. March 1st 04 02:44 PM

Source for Sunbrella
 
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"Doug Dotson" wrote:

Hey, hey! Our whole boat is done in Burgundy. Pacific Blue is falling
out of favor around here (know popularly as Boat Blue). Captain
Navy has been most popular color around here for the last few years,
with burgundy, tan, and green close behind.

Doug
s/v Callista


Our boat is in the color known as Black Cherry in the catalogs, which
is maroon or burgundy. That's because we have a maroon stripe. I
don't care for the tan. I like the aqua and that would be my choice
maybe if we didn't have a boat with a red type stripe. I totally hate
black because it becomes a rusty brown, and I don't like brown either.

We used regular damask (double woven) upholstery fabric which we got
from a place that was going out of business to do the cushions inside
the boat. This is not a shiny satiny fabric - it's a very tough
fabric with a double woven design in it. I see no reason to pay for
Sunbrella for that - indoor or outdoor. We used plastic like fabric
on the backsides because it was significantly cheaper, and that's the
way the original cushions were done. (The original cushions were IMHO
a horrible tweed)

We also bought Sunbrella at this place which was bolt ends and
seconds, and have used it for things like hatch covers, winch covers,
dinghy motor covers etc where the fact that the waterproofing isn't as
reliable doesn't matter as much.

When we had the bimini made, it was made of Stamoid and we like it
very much although all the needle holes tend to leak, so you can't
make mistakes sewing it up. I asked whether I could have a light
colored bimini to reflect the sun and was told that I should not do
that because it would get dirty and the dark colors were cooler
anyway. I totally don't believe that dark colors are cooler, and the
Stamoid is easy to wash off.

I think the Sunbrella people tell folks that the dark colors are
better for biminis, but I read somewhere that dark colors protect
better against UV for the sail covers and the edges of the furling
headsails etc, so maybe that's what they are talking about.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Yah! I been watching for Pacific Blue #4601 or #6001 on eBay, but I must
have missed out on that one.. Most of the colors I have seen are those odd
colors, like Burgundy, etc.

I'm kinda committed to the Pacific Blue because I had several yards of it
already and I made the sleeve for the furled head sail already..

So far this price is the best I have found for what I need and the fact

that
their minimum order is low and free shipping..

For the other poster concerned about the type; this site advertises using
the Sunbrella logo and lists all that product by the the standard color
numbers that I find on the actual Sunbrella site.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




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