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Can anyone recommend a good online sailmaker? I need a new jib and have
gone into sticker shock from some quotes I've seen (haven't bought sails for a looong time...). I wondered if I could get a good quality product at a good price by mail order or online ordering. I'm in the US but I hear there are some great deals from international sailmakers who ship to the US. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any tips! Dimitri |
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I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.
Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/ They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment from some sail lofts. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker.
Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/ They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment from some sail lofts. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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![]() I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker. Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/ They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment from some sail lofts. Thanks Steve! I'll give them a call. After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong: Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM supplier. Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really comprehensive site. Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/) Anybody have experience dealing with the above? Dimitri |
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![]() I got a good deal on a new full batten mainsail from a sail broker. Bacon Sails http://www.baconsails.com/ They specialize in used sails but also have some new sails on consignment from some sail lofts. Thanks Steve! I'll give them a call. After searching the web I ran across three sailmakers in Hong Kong: Lee Sails (http://www3.leesails.com/) ... I've heard of them as an OEM supplier. Hong Kong Sailmakers (http://www.hksailmakers.com/) ... a really comprehensive site. Sails East (http://www.sailseast.com/) Anybody have experience dealing with the above? Dimitri |
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Just another FWIW.
Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail.. I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape installed.. When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little sail work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor work/adjustments. I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any of the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say where the actual work was done. I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut and sewn correctly and good quality material is used.. BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say otherwise. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Just another FWIW.
Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail.. I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape installed.. When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little sail work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor work/adjustments. I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any of the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say where the actual work was done. I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut and sewn correctly and good quality material is used.. BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say otherwise. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Mack Sails in Stuart Florida is an excellent sailmaker. They do quality work
in Florida and stand behind their product. I found their prices competative with the offshore stuff and I got better quality and service. For what it is worth. For those who have the Kmart mentality, I recommend getting some Martha Stuart sheets ...hot glew them together....and bitch about the poor service "Steve" wrote in message ... Just another FWIW. Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail.. I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape installed.. When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little sail work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor work/adjustments. I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any of the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say where the actual work was done. I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut and sewn correctly and good quality material is used.. BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say otherwise. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Mack Sails in Stuart Florida is an excellent sailmaker. They do quality work
in Florida and stand behind their product. I found their prices competative with the offshore stuff and I got better quality and service. For what it is worth. For those who have the Kmart mentality, I recommend getting some Martha Stuart sheets ...hot glew them together....and bitch about the poor service "Steve" wrote in message ... Just another FWIW. Some of the 'supposed' US sailmakers actually have the highly labor intensive work done 'off shore'. In fact it is highly possible that the entire sail will be made in Mexico and the Gringo sailmaker will just show up for the measurements and finally fitting of the sail.. I took a sail into Doyle sails in San Diego to have a luff tape installed.. When I stopped back a couple days later to check on the progress, I found out that it was in TJ. The sailmaker admitted that they did very little sail work in SD. The loft was only used for inspecting sails and minor work/adjustments. I visited the Hood sail loft in Seattle and found that they didn't do any of the sail making here. Just some repair and adjustments. They wouldn't say where the actual work was done. I don't suppose it really makes much difference as long as the sail is cut and sewn correctly and good quality material is used.. BTW. I have had Lee Sails on several of my boats and never had any complaint. If I we a racer or demanded high performance, then I might say otherwise. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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![]() Mack Sails in Stuart Florida is an excellent sailmaker. They do quality work in Florida and stand behind their product. I found their prices competative with the offshore stuff and I got better quality and service. For what it is worth. For those who have the Kmart mentality, I recommend getting some Martha Stuart sheets ...hot glew them together....and bitch about the poor service Hmmm... well, I'll check into Mack Sails and see how they do. Thanks for the lead! As far as the "Kmart mentality" there is nothing wrong with a desire to get value for your money, especially if you are trying to keep your family on the water despite the costs of doing so even in a very modest way. In any business where there's a paradigm shift happening (either as a result of shifting technology or new business methods or new production sources) it's quite often the case that you don't get the best value for your money just by paying more. I've been around boats for over 45 years and I can guarantee you that when it comes to labor-intensive work there is no hard and fast correlation between the price you pay for something and the service you get. There's no end of guys who will charge you 20 hours of time to do a hack job that a more competant craftsman could have done better in 8 to 10 hours. Anyone who has dealt with the marine trades knows exactly what I mean. The correlation seems to be not with price but with integrity and competance and that has to do more with the man inside than the prices on the outside. It always pays to ask around who's got the integrity and the skills. By the way, I'm not on some rant against using the local talent. We've got some really good local sailmakers and they provide a great service with lots of personal attention and build a product that is absolutely second to none. But, you know how it goes, not everybody can afford to fly first class and those of us counting our pennies still want to get the best deal for the money! I guess it's more the Costco mentality than Kmart. :-) Regards to all, Dimitri |
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