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Parallax February 24th 04 03:29 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.

Steve February 24th 04 04:08 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
I'm as a small marina (~36 slips) and they charge $5/ft/month. Water is
available but is secured during winter. Electric is optional and is $2/day
or $37.50/mo. The nearest pumpout is 10 miles away and cost $2. There is a
public restroom ashore but no showers.

The location is about 180 miles for the Pacific ocean, however being on the
Hood Canal and part of the Puget Sound of the Pacific NW. there is plenty of
good sailing and more good anchorages to explore, within day or two.

The next nearest marina (25miles) is 1st class, but charges $8/ft. There is
public marina (Port of Shelton) that charges $3.35/ft, however I have been
on the waiting list there for about 4 years and there are still 3 boat ahead
of me.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions






Steve February 24th 04 04:08 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
I'm as a small marina (~36 slips) and they charge $5/ft/month. Water is
available but is secured during winter. Electric is optional and is $2/day
or $37.50/mo. The nearest pumpout is 10 miles away and cost $2. There is a
public restroom ashore but no showers.

The location is about 180 miles for the Pacific ocean, however being on the
Hood Canal and part of the Puget Sound of the Pacific NW. there is plenty of
good sailing and more good anchorages to explore, within day or two.

The next nearest marina (25miles) is 1st class, but charges $8/ft. There is
public marina (Port of Shelton) that charges $3.35/ft, however I have been
on the waiting list there for about 4 years and there are still 3 boat ahead
of me.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions






Baybyter February 24th 04 04:38 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Im in a very large marina (600+boats) about 20 miles south of the sailing
capital of Annapolis on the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay. My marina
charges by the size of the slip and a 30 ft slip by 13 ft wide runs around
$2,000 per year. Bigger slips are proportionately more costly. This is a full
service marina with just about every type of service is available. The cost
of haul out and winter storage on the hard is an additional $500 or so. The
price includes the use of a small pool as well as the use of a companion
marina's facilities about 10 miles away. That marina has a large pool, tennis
courts, restaurants, etc.

This marina is competively priced, or perhaps a bit lower than other marinas on
this part of the Chesapeake. Slips costs tend to rise the nearer one gets to
Annapolis.

Baybyter February 24th 04 04:38 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Im in a very large marina (600+boats) about 20 miles south of the sailing
capital of Annapolis on the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay. My marina
charges by the size of the slip and a 30 ft slip by 13 ft wide runs around
$2,000 per year. Bigger slips are proportionately more costly. This is a full
service marina with just about every type of service is available. The cost
of haul out and winter storage on the hard is an additional $500 or so. The
price includes the use of a small pool as well as the use of a companion
marina's facilities about 10 miles away. That marina has a large pool, tennis
courts, restaurants, etc.

This marina is competively priced, or perhaps a bit lower than other marinas on
this part of the Chesapeake. Slips costs tend to rise the nearer one gets to
Annapolis.

Dick Locke February 24th 04 04:41 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.

Dick Locke February 24th 04 04:41 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:05 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
x-no-archive:yes (Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.


We are off the Potomac River in Maryland. The slip is about
$12/ft/quarter (i.e. for 3 months) on a yearly contract and the
electricity is metered. (Since it is from a co-op, we get the
electricity at cost.) The water is free. Pumpouts are done at the
dock (they have a little golf cart that comes to you) and are $5 @.

(Transient rates are about $1.00/ft/day with $25 minimum. Weekly
$4.00/foot Monthly $8.00/foot (open) $12.00/foot (covered). There is
a charge for electricity. There is a discount from November to
March.)

They have four showers per sex in two different locations, laundry
facilities and a pool.

There is a yard with both a marine railway and a travelift. They do
work on boats (Mechanical (Diesel and Gas inboard, I/O, OB),
Electrical (AC & DC wiring, electronics), Fiberglass, wood and metal
fabrication and repair, Painting, brightwork, and AWLGRIP) or you can
DIY. There is no extra cost for the boat hauled v.s. in the slip
(although they do charge to haul it of course)

The marina is very protected, but it takes us only about 15 minutes to
get out of the creek into the Potomac (not even very many crab pots)
where we can sail, and takes about an hour to get down to the
Chesapeake Bay.

There is a restaurant and parking, and the marina has various events
in the summer. The marina will lend you bikes or a truck to go to the
local (within 5 miles) store. There are also two adjacent restaurants
that you can walk to from the marina.

grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:05 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
x-no-archive:yes (Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.


We are off the Potomac River in Maryland. The slip is about
$12/ft/quarter (i.e. for 3 months) on a yearly contract and the
electricity is metered. (Since it is from a co-op, we get the
electricity at cost.) The water is free. Pumpouts are done at the
dock (they have a little golf cart that comes to you) and are $5 @.

(Transient rates are about $1.00/ft/day with $25 minimum. Weekly
$4.00/foot Monthly $8.00/foot (open) $12.00/foot (covered). There is
a charge for electricity. There is a discount from November to
March.)

They have four showers per sex in two different locations, laundry
facilities and a pool.

There is a yard with both a marine railway and a travelift. They do
work on boats (Mechanical (Diesel and Gas inboard, I/O, OB),
Electrical (AC & DC wiring, electronics), Fiberglass, wood and metal
fabrication and repair, Painting, brightwork, and AWLGRIP) or you can
DIY. There is no extra cost for the boat hauled v.s. in the slip
(although they do charge to haul it of course)

The marina is very protected, but it takes us only about 15 minutes to
get out of the creek into the Potomac (not even very many crab pots)
where we can sail, and takes about an hour to get down to the
Chesapeake Bay.

There is a restaurant and parking, and the marina has various events
in the summer. The marina will lend you bikes or a truck to go to the
local (within 5 miles) store. There are also two adjacent restaurants
that you can walk to from the marina.

grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:11 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
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Rosalie B. wrote:

(Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.


We are off the Potomac River in Maryland. The slip is about
$12/ft/quarter (i.e. for 3 months) on a yearly contract and the
electricity is metered. (Since it is from a co-op, we get the
electricity at cost.) The water is free. Pumpouts are done at the
dock (they have a little golf cart that comes to you) and are $5 @.


OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.

(Transient rates are about $1.00/ft/day with $25 minimum. Weekly
$4.00/foot Monthly $8.00/foot (open) $12.00/foot (covered). There is
a charge for electricity. There is a discount from November to
March.)

They have four showers per sex in two different locations, laundry
facilities and a pool.

There is a yard with both a marine railway and a travelift. They do
work on boats (Mechanical (Diesel and Gas inboard, I/O, OB),
Electrical (AC & DC wiring, electronics), Fiberglass, wood and metal
fabrication and repair, Painting, brightwork, and AWLGRIP) or you can
DIY. There is no extra cost for the boat hauled v.s. in the slip
(although they do charge to haul it of course)

The marina is very protected, but it takes us only about 15 minutes to
get out of the creek into the Potomac (not even very many crab pots)
where we can sail, and takes about an hour to get down to the
Chesapeake Bay.

There is a restaurant and parking, and the marina has various events
in the summer. The marina will lend you bikes or a truck to go to the
local (within 5 miles) store. There are also two adjacent restaurants
that you can walk to from the marina.

grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:11 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
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Rosalie B. wrote:

(Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.


We are off the Potomac River in Maryland. The slip is about
$12/ft/quarter (i.e. for 3 months) on a yearly contract and the
electricity is metered. (Since it is from a co-op, we get the
electricity at cost.) The water is free. Pumpouts are done at the
dock (they have a little golf cart that comes to you) and are $5 @.


OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.

(Transient rates are about $1.00/ft/day with $25 minimum. Weekly
$4.00/foot Monthly $8.00/foot (open) $12.00/foot (covered). There is
a charge for electricity. There is a discount from November to
March.)

They have four showers per sex in two different locations, laundry
facilities and a pool.

There is a yard with both a marine railway and a travelift. They do
work on boats (Mechanical (Diesel and Gas inboard, I/O, OB),
Electrical (AC & DC wiring, electronics), Fiberglass, wood and metal
fabrication and repair, Painting, brightwork, and AWLGRIP) or you can
DIY. There is no extra cost for the boat hauled v.s. in the slip
(although they do charge to haul it of course)

The marina is very protected, but it takes us only about 15 minutes to
get out of the creek into the Potomac (not even very many crab pots)
where we can sail, and takes about an hour to get down to the
Chesapeake Bay.

There is a restaurant and parking, and the marina has various events
in the summer. The marina will lend you bikes or a truck to go to the
local (within 5 miles) store. There are also two adjacent restaurants
that you can walk to from the marina.

grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:12 PM

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Dick Locke wrote:

On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?


If you are going to ask about floating docks, you need to also know
about whether the tides make them necessary IMHO. Some places
(Charleston) fixed docks would be crazy. Some places, it's just a
nice extra to have floating docks.

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 24th 04 05:12 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
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Dick Locke wrote:

On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?


If you are going to ask about floating docks, you need to also know
about whether the tides make them necessary IMHO. Some places
(Charleston) fixed docks would be crazy. Some places, it's just a
nice extra to have floating docks.

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.


grandma Rosalie

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 24th 04 09:36 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
We pay $105/ft for a 6-month season in Jersey City near the Holland
Tunnel.

Single-finger 40-ft floating slip. We pay for 36 feet.


On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:41:51 GMT, Dick Locke
wrote:

On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 24th 04 09:36 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
We pay $105/ft for a 6-month season in Jersey City near the Holland
Tunnel.

Single-finger 40-ft floating slip. We pay for 36 feet.


On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:41:51 GMT, Dick Locke
wrote:

On 24 Feb 2004 07:29:39 -0800, (Parallax)
wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


Other data that would help make comparisons easy....docks fixed or
floating? Single or double finger slips? Fingers full length?

Having said that, about $7.00 per foot for a slip in central SF Bay.
Double finger, full length, floating, free water, metered electricity,
free pumpouts. Wireless internet available for $30.

I paid ~$5.50 per foot in Mobile for single finger, not floating, not
full length, electricity extra, free water, no pumpout station.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

Steve February 24th 04 10:12 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Ouch!

I always wondered what boaters paid in and around the Big Apple.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve February 24th 04 10:12 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Ouch!

I always wondered what boaters paid in and around the Big Apple.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Jay February 24th 04 11:30 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
850.00/season for double finger floating slip me: (under 20ft) Closed
20mile riverway.

-j

"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.




Jay February 24th 04 11:30 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
850.00/season for double finger floating slip me: (under 20ft) Closed
20mile riverway.

-j

"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.




Rodney Myrvaagnes February 25th 04 05:13 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
On 24 Feb 2004 18:17:37 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:12:10 -0800, "Steve" said:

I always wondered what boaters paid in and around the Big Apple.


There are places for considerably less on City Island in the Bronx. Around
$23 a foot with launch service. In Jersey City you pay a lot for quick
access from the City. If I remember correctly, hauling in Jersey City runs
about another $50 a foot.


That is a mooring, not a slip. In any case, City Island is a long trip
by public transportation. Taxis would easily eat up the difference in
price, and take a lot longer than the PATH to NJ.

I don't know what hauling in JC costs I take Gjo/a to Mamaroneck for
haulout.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

Rodney Myrvaagnes February 25th 04 05:13 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
On 24 Feb 2004 18:17:37 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:12:10 -0800, "Steve" said:

I always wondered what boaters paid in and around the Big Apple.


There are places for considerably less on City Island in the Bronx. Around
$23 a foot with launch service. In Jersey City you pay a lot for quick
access from the City. If I remember correctly, hauling in Jersey City runs
about another $50 a foot.


That is a mooring, not a slip. In any case, City Island is a long trip
by public transportation. Taxis would easily eat up the difference in
price, and take a lot longer than the PATH to NJ.

I don't know what hauling in JC costs I take Gjo/a to Mamaroneck for
haulout.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Never eat more in a single day than your head weighs." --Jim Harrison

Jere Lull February 25th 04 05:33 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
In article ,
(Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


$1900/6 month season for 30+' slip. (actually 35' or so)
Single full-length fixed finger pier
Screened activities area on our dock (The Chicken Coop)
Nice, clean, though aging, air conditioned heads.
Restaurant
Beach bar with perhaps the best sunset view on the Bay.
Pool
Beach
Various picnic areas
FULL service shops & excellent parts department.
(I'm told it's THE place to get engine work done.)
REALLY nice folks

& the number 1 draw:
Zero feet to the wide open Bay.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages:
http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere Lull February 25th 04 05:33 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
In article ,
(Parallax) wrote:

I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.


$1900/6 month season for 30+' slip. (actually 35' or so)
Single full-length fixed finger pier
Screened activities area on our dock (The Chicken Coop)
Nice, clean, though aging, air conditioned heads.
Restaurant
Beach bar with perhaps the best sunset view on the Bay.
Pool
Beach
Various picnic areas
FULL service shops & excellent parts department.
(I'm told it's THE place to get engine work done.)
REALLY nice folks

& the number 1 draw:
Zero feet to the wide open Bay.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages:
http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Vic Fraenckel February 25th 04 11:52 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
grandma Rosalie wrote:
|We are off the Potomac River in Maryland

What is the name of the marina? I am looking for a place in that area but
have no local knowledge.

Any enlightenment will be appreciated

TIA

Vic
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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
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Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus



Vic Fraenckel February 25th 04 11:52 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
grandma Rosalie wrote:
|We are off the Potomac River in Maryland

What is the name of the marina? I am looking for a place in that area but
have no local knowledge.

Any enlightenment will be appreciated

TIA

Vic
--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus



Don White February 25th 04 03:19 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Here are fees/membership costs at our home club...

http://www.rnsys.com/Welcome.html

see both page on membership fees and separate page for facilities.



Parallax wrote in message
om...
I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.




Don White February 25th 04 03:19 PM

slip or mooring costs
 
Here are fees/membership costs at our home club...

http://www.rnsys.com/Welcome.html

see both page on membership fees and separate page for facilities.



Parallax wrote in message
om...
I am curious about slip or mooring costs around the country. Please
reply telling the costs in your area and whether it is a slip or
mooring and what that provides and if there are any other costs.

Carrabelle, FL
I pay $159/month for a slip at a fixed dock .5 miles from open water.
I have access to power and water. No pump out facility. There are no
other charges. Of course, my boat stays in the slip all year. I am
certain that if I looked nearby I could find a private dock for less
than $100/month but I like being right in Carrabelle.




Dick Locke February 26th 04 01:26 AM

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.


Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two
incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded
in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide
came in.
Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet
above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems
and the docks to go under water for a few hours.

Dick Locke February 26th 04 01:26 AM

slip or mooring costs
 
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.


Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two
incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded
in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide
came in.
Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet
above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems
and the docks to go under water for a few hours.

Rosalie B. February 26th 04 03:43 AM

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Dick Locke wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.


Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two
incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded
in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide
came in.


Well what did it hurt to wait? Or just use a gangplank. We've been
on the ground in the slip (not at our home marina, but at Hilton Head
in SC) and had to wait until high tide to leave because the boat
wasn't floating.

Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet
above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems
and the docks to go under water for a few hours.


Did you look at my picture of our boat in the dock after Isabel?
http://photomail.photoworks.com/shar...s/KHX/At3xUbeV

The marina pictures were at LOW tide the next day (Friday).

[The first (1-4) pictures are of Bob on the roof of the porch roof
sweeping the leaves and branches off. Then are some (5-9) pictures
from the upstairs window of the house showing that there wasn't any
damage except leaves and some branches on the ground at our house
although we were without electricity for several days. We live up on
a hill about 1/4 mile above the Potomac.]

Low tide after Isabel off the Potomac River down near the Chesapeake
Bay
#10 - marina from the access road
#11 - haulout slip (under water)
#12 - covered slips
#13 - boardwalk beside covered slips
#14 - Spinnaker's restaurant
#15 and #16 - high tide mark in the yard of the first house on the
road next to the marina (the house is beside where #10 was taken)
#17 and #18 - Gas dock and A dock
#19 steps of marina office (which normally are next to the office)
#20-21 our boat from the docks
#22 - dinghy of next boat from beside our boat. I couldn't get on the
boat because it was too high over the dock.

The tidal surge went up to the top of the pilings - about 5 feet above
the dock, which is normally one or two feet above the water. We had
our boat tied with spring lines in the slip (as did the people that
didn't go to anchor or have their boats hauled) with the lines to the
pilings on the far side of the dock because we only have cleats on our
side.

I took the pictures from partway out the dock because Bob wanted to
know how the boat fared, and he didn't want to wade out there and I
didn't mind. It was difficult because the water was up to my knees
and I had to get over or under all the lines from our side of the dock
to the other side. When I got down there I sat on the steps next to
the boat to rest. That's where the last picture was taken of the
dinghy of our neighbor on top of the dock in the last picture.


In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 26th 04 03:43 AM

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Dick Locke wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote:

OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip
has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides
there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad.


Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two
incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded
in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide
came in.


Well what did it hurt to wait? Or just use a gangplank. We've been
on the ground in the slip (not at our home marina, but at Hilton Head
in SC) and had to wait until high tide to leave because the boat
wasn't floating.

Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet
above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems
and the docks to go under water for a few hours.


Did you look at my picture of our boat in the dock after Isabel?
http://photomail.photoworks.com/shar...s/KHX/At3xUbeV

The marina pictures were at LOW tide the next day (Friday).

[The first (1-4) pictures are of Bob on the roof of the porch roof
sweeping the leaves and branches off. Then are some (5-9) pictures
from the upstairs window of the house showing that there wasn't any
damage except leaves and some branches on the ground at our house
although we were without electricity for several days. We live up on
a hill about 1/4 mile above the Potomac.]

Low tide after Isabel off the Potomac River down near the Chesapeake
Bay
#10 - marina from the access road
#11 - haulout slip (under water)
#12 - covered slips
#13 - boardwalk beside covered slips
#14 - Spinnaker's restaurant
#15 and #16 - high tide mark in the yard of the first house on the
road next to the marina (the house is beside where #10 was taken)
#17 and #18 - Gas dock and A dock
#19 steps of marina office (which normally are next to the office)
#20-21 our boat from the docks
#22 - dinghy of next boat from beside our boat. I couldn't get on the
boat because it was too high over the dock.

The tidal surge went up to the top of the pilings - about 5 feet above
the dock, which is normally one or two feet above the water. We had
our boat tied with spring lines in the slip (as did the people that
didn't go to anchor or have their boats hauled) with the lines to the
pilings on the far side of the dock because we only have cleats on our
side.

I took the pictures from partway out the dock because Bob wanted to
know how the boat fared, and he didn't want to wade out there and I
didn't mind. It was difficult because the water was up to my knees
and I had to get over or under all the lines from our side of the dock
to the other side. When I got down there I sat on the steps next to
the boat to rest. That's where the last picture was taken of the
dinghy of our neighbor on top of the dock in the last picture.


In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie

Don W February 26th 04 05:37 PM

Fixed docks was slip or mooring costs
 
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme
tidal range?

Don W.



In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie



Don W February 26th 04 05:37 PM

Fixed docks was slip or mooring costs
 
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme
tidal range?

Don W.



In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie



Rosalie B. February 27th 04 12:10 AM

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Don W wrote:

Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme
tidal range?

Don W.

Two words - SPRING LINES

Bob does this automatically and I'm not usually involved so I don't
know the exact geometry, but every time we do this we use spring
lines. I'm sure someone else can explain.


In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. February 27th 04 12:10 AM

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Don W wrote:

Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme
tidal range?

Don W.

Two words - SPRING LINES

Bob does this automatically and I'm not usually involved so I don't
know the exact geometry, but every time we do this we use spring
lines. I'm sure someone else can explain.


In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a
fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do
so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats
in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are
at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with
about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here
mostly because of the hurricane season.)

So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an
extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a
sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that
isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you
go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas
docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's
high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that
point) you have some clue as to how to proceed.

It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to
have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are
floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside
your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you
need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of
situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or
fixed dock, cleats or pilings.


grandma Rosalie


grandma Rosalie

JimB February 27th 04 10:09 AM

Fixed docks was slip or mooring costs
 

Don W wrote in message
gy.com...
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our

boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've

never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an

extreme
tidal range?


There are several quaysides with an 8 metre (25 ft?) tidal range
around French Brittany and the British Channel islands.

Moor alongside a ladder! Use that with a temporary spring line
while you sort out your ropes. Otherwise have a ladder aboard, or
learn to fly, or trust the guys ashore to tie good knots.

Use bow and stern ropes plus fore and aft springs. Tie off at the
quay, and make any adjustments at the boat end of the warp. Make
sure the boat end can be adjusted when it's under strain.

Each rope should be at least twice as long as the range of tide.
From top to bottom tide the rope then has to accommodate 10% of
stretch. Do this by allowing 10% slack at high tide, or by using
nylon rope with 2 or 3% slack. Have a griping board between the
vessel and quay, and rig light lines to ensure the slack in your
mooring lines doesn't lift your fenders or the griping board as
the tide falls.

JimB
Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale, to help pay for that lovely Greek
seaside house we've just bought.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm
jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com






JimB February 27th 04 10:09 AM

Fixed docks was slip or mooring costs
 

Don W wrote in message
gy.com...
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our

boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've

never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an

extreme
tidal range?


There are several quaysides with an 8 metre (25 ft?) tidal range
around French Brittany and the British Channel islands.

Moor alongside a ladder! Use that with a temporary spring line
while you sort out your ropes. Otherwise have a ladder aboard, or
learn to fly, or trust the guys ashore to tie good knots.

Use bow and stern ropes plus fore and aft springs. Tie off at the
quay, and make any adjustments at the boat end of the warp. Make
sure the boat end can be adjusted when it's under strain.

Each rope should be at least twice as long as the range of tide.
From top to bottom tide the rope then has to accommodate 10% of
stretch. Do this by allowing 10% slack at high tide, or by using
nylon rope with 2 or 3% slack. Have a griping board between the
vessel and quay, and rig light lines to ensure the slack in your
mooring lines doesn't lift your fenders or the griping board as
the tide falls.

JimB
Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale, to help pay for that lovely Greek
seaside house we've just bought.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm
jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com






Rosalie B. February 27th 04 01:36 PM

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"JimB" wrote:


Don W wrote in message
igy.com...
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our

boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've

never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an

extreme
tidal range?


There are several quaysides with an 8 metre (25 ft?) tidal range
around French Brittany and the British Channel islands.

Moor alongside a ladder! Use that with a temporary spring line
while you sort out your ropes. Otherwise have a ladder aboard, or
learn to fly, or trust the guys ashore to tie good knots.

Use bow and stern ropes plus fore and aft springs. Tie off at the
quay, and make any adjustments at the boat end of the warp. Make
sure the boat end can be adjusted when it's under strain.

Each rope should be at least twice as long as the range of tide.
From top to bottom tide the rope then has to accommodate 10% of
stretch. Do this by allowing 10% slack at high tide, or by using
nylon rope with 2 or 3% slack. Have a griping board between the
vessel and quay, and rig light lines to ensure the slack in your
mooring lines doesn't lift your fenders or the griping board as
the tide falls.

JimB
Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale, to help pay for that lovely Greek
seaside house we've just bought.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm
jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com


Thanks Jim - I knew someone would be able to explain this better than
I could. What is a griping board in American English?

When we are moving from marina to marina on a daily basis, we have
been told by a dock person that we should give the dock person the
looped end of the line so that they could just drop it over the cleat
or piling and wouldn't have to tie it off.

But coming into an unknown (or even a known) transient slip, Bob
usually has lines rigged on all four corners and in the middle (with
additional lines on the pin rail and accessible - I can NOT understand
these people who come into a slip and after they get INTO the slip,
they go diving into lockers after the lines like they've never tied up
in a slip before and didn't realize that they'd need lines), and
usually he puts the loop end on a cleat in the boat and gives the free
(bitter?) end to the dock person. That's so that we know the line is
attached to something on the boat, and that the boat person handling
the lines (me) won't have to let go of the line due to excess pressure
from wind and/or current.

So it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other.

In any case, when we get more or less secured to the dock, Bob adjusts
the lines so that they loop around the pilings and return to the boat
so we have control of both ends of the line. That way, we can cast
off again without getting off the boat to untie the line, plus the
lines can be adjusted from the boat if necessary.

In the case of cleats on the dock (which is often the case with
floating docks), just before we leave, Bob loops the line off the
cleat and gives me both ends so that when we are ready to go I can
(hopefully) flip it off the cleat.

At our home slip, we have the loop end on the dock, and chafe
protection on the line where it goes through the chock or whatever so
that I know where to cleat it off in the boat.

In our home slip, with only about 2 feet of tide, we normally have at
least 10 lines rigged.

2 on the bow
2 bow spring lines to amidships
2 stern lines
2 stern spring lines to amidships
2 breast lines

and then we may add additional longer spring lines. When we cast off,
we loop the lines on the pilings or throw them onto the dock in an
order that depends on where the wind is coming from (usually some of
the lines will be slack so we release them first).

At a transient slip, Bob watches the current after we come in (have
learned this the hard way) and depending on the tide state, he
projects which way the current will be going when we will be leaving.
If there is a LOT of current (like for instance the Ft. Pierce
municipal marina) we will AFAP leave at slack tide. Sometimes we have
to wait and leave at high tide anyway (like Hilton Head) in order to
get out of the marina.

Then depending on which lines have the most strain and other factors
(like is there a shoal right in front of us so we have to back up and
turn before we can head out), he fixes the lines so that I can cast
them off (I'm not very good at flipping lines) - and he has now
learned to give me explicit instructions about everything that is
supposed to happen before I leave the cockpit as he cannot assume that
I will know what he intends and both of us are a bit deaf so yelling
instructions over the engine is NOT a viable option - and then we do
whatever he has programmed and cast off.


grandma Rosalie
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Rosalie B. February 27th 04 01:36 PM

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"JimB" wrote:


Don W wrote in message
igy.com...
Rosalie,

I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our

boat is
in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've

never had
to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an

extreme
tidal range?


There are several quaysides with an 8 metre (25 ft?) tidal range
around French Brittany and the British Channel islands.

Moor alongside a ladder! Use that with a temporary spring line
while you sort out your ropes. Otherwise have a ladder aboard, or
learn to fly, or trust the guys ashore to tie good knots.

Use bow and stern ropes plus fore and aft springs. Tie off at the
quay, and make any adjustments at the boat end of the warp. Make
sure the boat end can be adjusted when it's under strain.

Each rope should be at least twice as long as the range of tide.
From top to bottom tide the rope then has to accommodate 10% of
stretch. Do this by allowing 10% slack at high tide, or by using
nylon rope with 2 or 3% slack. Have a griping board between the
vessel and quay, and rig light lines to ensure the slack in your
mooring lines doesn't lift your fenders or the griping board as
the tide falls.

JimB
Yacht Rapaz, sadly for sale, to help pay for that lovely Greek
seaside house we've just bought.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.bae...cification.htm
jim(dot)baerselman(at)ntlworld(dot)com


Thanks Jim - I knew someone would be able to explain this better than
I could. What is a griping board in American English?

When we are moving from marina to marina on a daily basis, we have
been told by a dock person that we should give the dock person the
looped end of the line so that they could just drop it over the cleat
or piling and wouldn't have to tie it off.

But coming into an unknown (or even a known) transient slip, Bob
usually has lines rigged on all four corners and in the middle (with
additional lines on the pin rail and accessible - I can NOT understand
these people who come into a slip and after they get INTO the slip,
they go diving into lockers after the lines like they've never tied up
in a slip before and didn't realize that they'd need lines), and
usually he puts the loop end on a cleat in the boat and gives the free
(bitter?) end to the dock person. That's so that we know the line is
attached to something on the boat, and that the boat person handling
the lines (me) won't have to let go of the line due to excess pressure
from wind and/or current.

So it's 6 of 1 half a dozen of the other.

In any case, when we get more or less secured to the dock, Bob adjusts
the lines so that they loop around the pilings and return to the boat
so we have control of both ends of the line. That way, we can cast
off again without getting off the boat to untie the line, plus the
lines can be adjusted from the boat if necessary.

In the case of cleats on the dock (which is often the case with
floating docks), just before we leave, Bob loops the line off the
cleat and gives me both ends so that when we are ready to go I can
(hopefully) flip it off the cleat.

At our home slip, we have the loop end on the dock, and chafe
protection on the line where it goes through the chock or whatever so
that I know where to cleat it off in the boat.

In our home slip, with only about 2 feet of tide, we normally have at
least 10 lines rigged.

2 on the bow
2 bow spring lines to amidships
2 stern lines
2 stern spring lines to amidships
2 breast lines

and then we may add additional longer spring lines. When we cast off,
we loop the lines on the pilings or throw them onto the dock in an
order that depends on where the wind is coming from (usually some of
the lines will be slack so we release them first).

At a transient slip, Bob watches the current after we come in (have
learned this the hard way) and depending on the tide state, he
projects which way the current will be going when we will be leaving.
If there is a LOT of current (like for instance the Ft. Pierce
municipal marina) we will AFAP leave at slack tide. Sometimes we have
to wait and leave at high tide anyway (like Hilton Head) in order to
get out of the marina.

Then depending on which lines have the most strain and other factors
(like is there a shoal right in front of us so we have to back up and
turn before we can head out), he fixes the lines so that I can cast
them off (I'm not very good at flipping lines) - and he has now
learned to give me explicit instructions about everything that is
supposed to happen before I leave the cockpit as he cannot assume that
I will know what he intends and both of us are a bit deaf so yelling
instructions over the engine is NOT a viable option - and then we do
whatever he has programmed and cast off.


grandma Rosalie
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JimB February 28th 04 10:24 AM

Fixed docks was slip or mooring costs
 

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