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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote: OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad. Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide came in. Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems and the docks to go under water for a few hours. |
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Dick Locke wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B. wrote: OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad. Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide came in. Well what did it hurt to wait? Or just use a gangplank. We've been on the ground in the slip (not at our home marina, but at Hilton Head in SC) and had to wait until high tide to leave because the boat wasn't floating. Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems and the docks to go under water for a few hours. Did you look at my picture of our boat in the dock after Isabel? http://photomail.photoworks.com/shar...s/KHX/At3xUbeV The marina pictures were at LOW tide the next day (Friday). [The first (1-4) pictures are of Bob on the roof of the porch roof sweeping the leaves and branches off. Then are some (5-9) pictures from the upstairs window of the house showing that there wasn't any damage except leaves and some branches on the ground at our house although we were without electricity for several days. We live up on a hill about 1/4 mile above the Potomac.] Low tide after Isabel off the Potomac River down near the Chesapeake Bay #10 - marina from the access road #11 - haulout slip (under water) #12 - covered slips #13 - boardwalk beside covered slips #14 - Spinnaker's restaurant #15 and #16 - high tide mark in the yard of the first house on the road next to the marina (the house is beside where #10 was taken) #17 and #18 - Gas dock and A dock #19 steps of marina office (which normally are next to the office) #20-21 our boat from the docks #22 - dinghy of next boat from beside our boat. I couldn't get on the boat because it was too high over the dock. The tidal surge went up to the top of the pilings - about 5 feet above the dock, which is normally one or two feet above the water. We had our boat tied with spring lines in the slip (as did the people that didn't go to anchor or have their boats hauled) with the lines to the pilings on the far side of the dock because we only have cleats on our side. I took the pictures from partway out the dock because Bob wanted to know how the boat fared, and he didn't want to wade out there and I didn't mind. It was difficult because the water was up to my knees and I had to get over or under all the lines from our side of the dock to the other side. When I got down there I sat on the steps next to the boat to rest. That's where the last picture was taken of the dinghy of our neighbor on top of the dock in the last picture. In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here mostly because of the hurricane season.) So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that point) you have some clue as to how to proceed. It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or fixed dock, cleats or pilings. grandma Rosalie |
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Rosalie,
I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme tidal range? Don W. In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here mostly because of the hurricane season.) So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that point) you have some clue as to how to proceed. It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or fixed dock, cleats or pilings. grandma Rosalie |
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Rosalie,
I think this is a good subject to explore in more detail. Our boat is in a marina with floating docks, so this is something we've never had to deal with. How _do_ you tie up to a fixed dock with an extreme tidal range? Don W. In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here mostly because of the hurricane season.) So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that point) you have some clue as to how to proceed. It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or fixed dock, cleats or pilings. grandma Rosalie |
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Dick Locke wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B. wrote: OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad. Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide came in. Well what did it hurt to wait? Or just use a gangplank. We've been on the ground in the slip (not at our home marina, but at Hilton Head in SC) and had to wait until high tide to leave because the boat wasn't floating. Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems and the docks to go under water for a few hours. Did you look at my picture of our boat in the dock after Isabel? http://photomail.photoworks.com/shar...s/KHX/At3xUbeV The marina pictures were at LOW tide the next day (Friday). [The first (1-4) pictures are of Bob on the roof of the porch roof sweeping the leaves and branches off. Then are some (5-9) pictures from the upstairs window of the house showing that there wasn't any damage except leaves and some branches on the ground at our house although we were without electricity for several days. We live up on a hill about 1/4 mile above the Potomac.] Low tide after Isabel off the Potomac River down near the Chesapeake Bay #10 - marina from the access road #11 - haulout slip (under water) #12 - covered slips #13 - boardwalk beside covered slips #14 - Spinnaker's restaurant #15 and #16 - high tide mark in the yard of the first house on the road next to the marina (the house is beside where #10 was taken) #17 and #18 - Gas dock and A dock #19 steps of marina office (which normally are next to the office) #20-21 our boat from the docks #22 - dinghy of next boat from beside our boat. I couldn't get on the boat because it was too high over the dock. The tidal surge went up to the top of the pilings - about 5 feet above the dock, which is normally one or two feet above the water. We had our boat tied with spring lines in the slip (as did the people that didn't go to anchor or have their boats hauled) with the lines to the pilings on the far side of the dock because we only have cleats on our side. I took the pictures from partway out the dock because Bob wanted to know how the boat fared, and he didn't want to wade out there and I didn't mind. It was difficult because the water was up to my knees and I had to get over or under all the lines from our side of the dock to the other side. When I got down there I sat on the steps next to the boat to rest. That's where the last picture was taken of the dinghy of our neighbor on top of the dock in the last picture. In any case - my point is - if you know how to secure a boat to a fixed dock (and IMHO you SHOULD know) it is perfectly possible to do so without a problem even with a high tide. All those shrimp boats in SC and GA and northern FL with 6 to 8 foot tides - most of them are at fixed docks. We are at a fixed concrete dock here in Marathon with about a 2 foot normal tide. (I think they have fixed docks here mostly because of the hurricane season.) So you should know how to have the boat safely in the slip even in an extra high or extra low tide. I think that's something that a sailor/boater should know. If you have a fixed dock and a tide that isn't too great - that's a good opportunity to practice so that if you go somewhere and they say - you can stay on the gas dock tonight (gas docks are often fixed docks), and BTW we have 6.5 foot tides and it's high tide now (and your boat is about even with the dock at that point) you have some clue as to how to proceed. It may be easier to have floating docks (although I always have to have a step stool on the dock to get off our boat if there are floating docks), but unless you never intend to go anywhere outside your own marina (and if that is so - why even have a boat), then you need to know stuff like how to tie the boat up in a variety of situations - face dock, or slip with a 4 point tie, floating dock or fixed dock, cleats or pilings. grandma Rosalie |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:11:30 GMT, Rosalie B.
wrote: OK forgot to say - fixed docks with short finger piers but our slip has a full length dock beside it. We have only about 2 foot tides there though so a fixed dock isn't so bad. Fixed docks with a 2-foot normal tide are usually OK but I had two incidents with them...once the tide was so low the boat had grounded in the slip and I couldn't get from the dock to the deck till the tide came in. Then in Mobile, the storm surge from TS Isidore was about three feet above normal high tide causing all sorts of line adjustment problems and the docks to go under water for a few hours. |
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