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Steve February 20th 04 07:03 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada, etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Fmc February 20th 04 07:13 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
You can complete most of your homework by going to travel.state.gov and the
cost is somewhat less than $150.




Fmc February 20th 04 07:13 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
You can complete most of your homework by going to travel.state.gov and the
cost is somewhat less than $150.




Steve February 20th 04 08:08 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 

cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve February 20th 04 08:08 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 

cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



JAXAshby February 21st 04 12:18 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.


I might want to check, but I believe the Canadian government wants you to carry
a large bore rifle when you travel that passage (for protection from bear
should you go ashore). I do know that in the past (and likely still) they did
in fact require a large bore (not pistol, not small bore) rifle for fliers of
small aircraft over that route.

JAXAshby February 21st 04 12:18 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.


I might want to check, but I believe the Canadian government wants you to carry
a large bore rifle when you travel that passage (for protection from bear
should you go ashore). I do know that in the past (and likely still) they did
in fact require a large bore (not pistol, not small bore) rifle for fliers of
small aircraft over that route.

Charles T. Low February 21st 04 12:39 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
The world has changed everywhere. Canadians also don't need a passport to
enter the U.S., but everyone I know takes one.

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"Steve" wrote in message
...
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada,

etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Charles T. Low February 21st 04 12:39 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
The world has changed everywhere. Canadians also don't need a passport to
enter the U.S., but everyone I know takes one.

====

Charles T. Low
- remove "UN"
www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest
www.boatdocking.com
www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat

====

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada,

etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC February 21st 04 03:42 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)


I found my old passport from the late 1970's with my 4-year,
multiple-entry, gratis visa from Iran. There's lots of stamps in that
book, except for the trip to Israel, who understands its implications.
I guess the new government wouldn't be interested in giving me another
one, like the Shahanshah's government was. They made me turn in my
Doshen-Tappeh IAFB security badge with only one area stamped out I
couldn't get into, the crypto vault. It had Farsi numbers around the
outside and they punched out any security areas you were not allowed
to enter. The fewer punches, the higher your status symbol....(c;

I'd go back to Iran to live, again, in a heartbeat, if they were
friendly again. What a beautiful place, mostly unspoiled in 5000
years by a human footprint. Ibex (mountain sheep) hunting with an
M-16 on the Shah's private game preserve was great hunting, too.



Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....

Larry W4CSC February 21st 04 03:42 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)


I found my old passport from the late 1970's with my 4-year,
multiple-entry, gratis visa from Iran. There's lots of stamps in that
book, except for the trip to Israel, who understands its implications.
I guess the new government wouldn't be interested in giving me another
one, like the Shahanshah's government was. They made me turn in my
Doshen-Tappeh IAFB security badge with only one area stamped out I
couldn't get into, the crypto vault. It had Farsi numbers around the
outside and they punched out any security areas you were not allowed
to enter. The fewer punches, the higher your status symbol....(c;

I'd go back to Iran to live, again, in a heartbeat, if they were
friendly again. What a beautiful place, mostly unspoiled in 5000
years by a human footprint. Ibex (mountain sheep) hunting with an
M-16 on the Shah's private game preserve was great hunting, too.



Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....

Fmc February 21st 04 03:55 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
That's nice.



Fmc February 21st 04 03:55 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
That's nice.



JAXAshby February 21st 04 03:58 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
That's nice.


Is it? Why?

(WTF are you talking about?)

JAXAshby February 21st 04 03:58 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
That's nice.


Is it? Why?

(WTF are you talking about?)

Fmc February 21st 04 04:57 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
My statement was not meant for you bozo!



Fmc February 21st 04 04:57 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
My statement was not meant for you bozo!



Robert Larder February 21st 04 07:59 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Fmc wrote:
My statement was not meant for you bozo!


WTF?
Who you talkin`to?



Robert Larder February 21st 04 07:59 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Fmc wrote:
My statement was not meant for you bozo!


WTF?
Who you talkin`to?



Sucia Scoob February 21st 04 03:36 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
We went into the Canadian Gulf Islands two summers back with only our driver
licenses and birth certificates (important to have) with no problem. It was
my first time boating into Canada and I was nervous about the process. It
was really smooth. We cleared customs at Bedwell Harbour (same place you
likely will).

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada,

etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





Sucia Scoob February 21st 04 03:36 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
We went into the Canadian Gulf Islands two summers back with only our driver
licenses and birth certificates (important to have) with no problem. It was
my first time boating into Canada and I was nervous about the process. It
was really smooth. We cleared customs at Bedwell Harbour (same place you
likely will).

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada,

etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions





kre February 21st 04 05:37 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
the old passport is all you need to return from Canada and Mexico

save your money.



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




kre February 21st 04 05:37 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
the old passport is all you need to return from Canada and Mexico

save your money.



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


cost is somewhat less than $150.


It appears that the 10 yr passport is $115 while the shorter term (not
clear, suspect 4 yr) is $55..

I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




kre February 21st 04 05:52 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
BTW, you'll also need the $25 US Customs sticker - get one before you
go - it's easier.

see their site for web purchase

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/le...asure_boat.xml

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/le..._fee_decal.xml



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:03:36 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada, etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




kre February 21st 04 05:52 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
BTW, you'll also need the $25 US Customs sticker - get one before you
go - it's easier.

see their site for web purchase

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/le...asure_boat.xml

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/le..._fee_decal.xml



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:03:36 -0800, "Steve" wrote:

Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada, etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Steve February 21st 04 06:39 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
thanks for reminding me of this ripoff..

I don't think I will feel otherwise until I see the RVers with these sticker
also.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Steve February 21st 04 06:39 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
thanks for reminding me of this ripoff..

I don't think I will feel otherwise until I see the RVers with these sticker
also.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Maynard G. Krebbs February 22nd 04 01:13 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:42:59 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

snip


I'd go back to Iran to live, again, in a heartbeat, if they were
friendly again. What a beautiful place, mostly unspoiled in 5000
years by a human footprint. Ibex (mountain sheep) hunting with an
M-16 on the Shah's private game preserve was great hunting, too.



Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....



If you want to go Ibex hunting try New Mexico. Some rich guy fenced a
huge area decades ago and imported animals from all over the world.
He forgot to check into how high these animals could jump however and
most got past the fence and have been running wild in Central New
Mexico for decades now.
Liscenses are available but I'm not sure about cost. (it's been a
while.)
Mark E. Williams

Maynard G. Krebbs February 22nd 04 01:13 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 03:42:59 GMT, (Larry W4CSC) wrote:

snip


I'd go back to Iran to live, again, in a heartbeat, if they were
friendly again. What a beautiful place, mostly unspoiled in 5000
years by a human footprint. Ibex (mountain sheep) hunting with an
M-16 on the Shah's private game preserve was great hunting, too.



Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

No, no, Scotty! I said, "Beam me a wrench.", not a WENCH!
Kirk Out.....



If you want to go Ibex hunting try New Mexico. Some rich guy fenced a
huge area decades ago and imported animals from all over the world.
He forgot to check into how high these animals could jump however and
most got past the fence and have been running wild in Central New
Mexico for decades now.
Liscenses are available but I'm not sure about cost. (it's been a
while.)
Mark E. Williams

rhys February 22nd 04 04:52 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..


The traffic used to be more relaxed, but based on the kind of
treatment Canadians now receive from a lot of "newly empowered" U.S.
border authorities, I would make sure your paperwork is in immaculate
order.

By way of example, if I cross the imaginary line drawn through Lake
Ontario and drift toward, say, Wilson, N.Y., I had better have my
passport, a crew manifest/I-68 form and a compelling reason to be
visiting Fortress America.

On the other hand, you can drive across the border either unmolested
or cavity-searched. It seems to depend entirely on the kind of day the
designated defender of freedom is having.

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

You're right there. I had a British passport expire so long ago I
haven't yet got the new EU replacement.

rhys February 22nd 04 04:52 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


I'd like to do this once and for all (67yo) and get another 10 yr passport
but I don't want to bother with it right now if it's not required to enter
and leave Canada this summer..


The traffic used to be more relaxed, but based on the kind of
treatment Canadians now receive from a lot of "newly empowered" U.S.
border authorities, I would make sure your paperwork is in immaculate
order.

By way of example, if I cross the imaginary line drawn through Lake
Ontario and drift toward, say, Wilson, N.Y., I had better have my
passport, a crew manifest/I-68 form and a compelling reason to be
visiting Fortress America.

On the other hand, you can drive across the border either unmolested
or cavity-searched. It seems to depend entirely on the kind of day the
designated defender of freedom is having.

(maybe, the truth be known, I have a 10 yr passport sitting here on my desk,
that has never left the country and expires next month, while several old
passports I have here are full of stamps from cover to cover.. Somebody
needs to get moving!!)

You're right there. I had a British passport expire so long ago I
haven't yet got the new EU replacement.

Don White February 22nd 04 04:31 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Britain doesn't issue it's own passports anymore?
Sad days!

rhys wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:



You're right there. I had a British passport expire so long ago I
haven't yet got the new EU replacement.




Don White February 22nd 04 04:31 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Britain doesn't issue it's own passports anymore?
Sad days!

rhys wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:08:25 -0800, "Steve" wrote:



You're right there. I had a British passport expire so long ago I
haven't yet got the new EU replacement.




rhys February 22nd 04 05:48 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:31:59 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Britain doesn't issue it's own passports anymore?
Sad days!

That's certainly my impression as a dual Canadian/British citizen. As
my Canadian passport is expiring this month, I am getting the Canadian
(five year) and the British/EU (ten year) reissued at the same
time...easier to remember that way, as for political and economic
reasons I want to maintain a fingertip-hold in European citizenship,
particularly as I plan to world cruise with a Canadian wife and kid in
the next eight to 10 years.

I believe Britain, which didn't opt for the euro, has had the red EU
small heavy-stock passports with a British coat of arms on the front,
just like 15 or so other Euro countries. You're right...I will miss
the heavy pasteboard royal blue UK passport, which was recognizable at
fifty feet and passed muster everywhere but, say, Argentina, in the
last 25 years.

R.

rhys February 22nd 04 05:48 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:31:59 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

Britain doesn't issue it's own passports anymore?
Sad days!

That's certainly my impression as a dual Canadian/British citizen. As
my Canadian passport is expiring this month, I am getting the Canadian
(five year) and the British/EU (ten year) reissued at the same
time...easier to remember that way, as for political and economic
reasons I want to maintain a fingertip-hold in European citizenship,
particularly as I plan to world cruise with a Canadian wife and kid in
the next eight to 10 years.

I believe Britain, which didn't opt for the euro, has had the red EU
small heavy-stock passports with a British coat of arms on the front,
just like 15 or so other Euro countries. You're right...I will miss
the heavy pasteboard royal blue UK passport, which was recognizable at
fifty feet and passed muster everywhere but, say, Argentina, in the
last 25 years.

R.

GASNER February 22nd 04 05:48 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Subject: To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
From: "Steve"
Date: 2/20/04 1:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada, etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



There is an internet ripoff site (don't remember the name) that charges a bunch
for U.S.Govt. Data, that you don't need.

Go to your local approved (some are, some are not. ask them) U.S.Postoffice and
you can do the whole application in one trip (if you bring an 'approved'
passport photo) for less than $100.

Earl



GASNER February 22nd 04 05:48 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
Subject: To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
From: "Steve"
Date: 2/20/04 1:03 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada, etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



There is an internet ripoff site (don't remember the name) that charges a bunch
for U.S.Govt. Data, that you don't need.

Go to your local approved (some are, some are not. ask them) U.S.Postoffice and
you can do the whole application in one trip (if you bring an 'approved'
passport photo) for less than $100.

Earl



Steven Dubnoff February 22nd 04 08:00 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 


A CanPass is about $25.00 or so. Maybe this is the way to go...

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel/ca...ateboat-e.html


In addition to a canpass, you will also need proof of US birth or
citizenship which can be a passport or a certified copy of your birth
certificate. Shortly after 9/11, I was almost turned back at Sidney
because I did not have a passport.

Since then, whith a canpass, I have never been checked or boarded, but
they still maintain the option of doing so.

Steve







Steven Dubnoff February 22nd 04 08:00 PM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 


A CanPass is about $25.00 or so. Maybe this is the way to go...

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel/ca...ateboat-e.html


In addition to a canpass, you will also need proof of US birth or
citizenship which can be a passport or a certified copy of your birth
certificate. Shortly after 9/11, I was almost turned back at Sidney
because I did not have a passport.

Since then, whith a canpass, I have never been checked or boarded, but
they still maintain the option of doing so.

Steve







jay February 23rd 04 12:49 AM

To Canada without a valid (current) passport?
 
I would certainly have a photo ID, and a copy of your birth certificate...

-j

"Steve" wrote in message
...
Starting to look at things that need to be done before cruising up The
Inside Passage to Alaska this summer.

I just checked my passport and find that it expires next month.. As I
understand it, I don't have to have a valid passport to go into Canada,

etc.
However, with the current border security, would it be worth the $150 to
have my passport renewed??

Also, how long does it now take to renew a current passport??

Steve
s/v Good Intentions






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