Capt. JG wrote:
How would you possibly know unless you looked?? The Sierra Club is one
of the most non-liberal of all the environmental groups...

You are kidding, right? Sierra Club *not* liberal? Jon, your arguments
are quite disengenuous, and now downright funny - you could do standup!

The preponderance of evidence says that we're causing global
warming.

No, Jon - the preponderance of *your* politico/religious beliefs in what
you've been led to believe about global atmospheric changes is
incorrect, and I have told you about a bunch of research you refuse to
even investigate to see if I am right or wrong. How about this one: A
recent research project discovered some startling data - it was found
that certain large wind systems can alter deep ocean currents and cause
the ice cap to be subjected to larger-than-normal warm current flows
over long periods, causing faster melting. Yet the ice pack is now
thicker than this time last year and the earth's temp has gone down. Now
your favorite political/religious fanatics are rapidly changing the
vocabulary so they can come up with yet another way to scam the public
into thinking we are now causing global cooling. Let's see, 1970's -
global cooling, 1990's global warming, 2008- global cooling... As John
Stossel whould say, give me a break! Look at the sun, Jon, look at the
sun - the answer is there!
And if you want a primer on how the ozone layer gets a hole in it,
google *gamma ray bursts*. One large burst can blow a large hole in the
ozone in ten minutes, and it takes approx three years to heal. Prob is,
we get an average of one to two large bursts a year and many smaller
ones. See if you can swallow that pill with a helping of freon!

I've pointed you to a fairly benign source that has some
interesting information, yet you refuse to look.

Once again, the Sierra Club is a far-left fundraising organization of
the Democrat party. If you would bother to follow the money trail you
would see that. It is not now, nor has it ever been "benign", nor is it
particularly interested in saving the environment. It exists to raise
funds for that party. I have already told you I do not read fundraising
scare tactic material of either party. But you think I'm a bad person
because I don't read the stuff from *your* party, and yet you would call
me bad names if I read and believed anything from the other party. You
are a hypocrite.

Instead, you make fun of a
political candidate. Seems pretty obvious to me who's mind is closed.

You have been making fun of and calling names of anyone who disagrees
with any of your political beliefs. You called me a (incorrect) name
based on my trying to convey information to you. Will you try to tell me
you haven't called President Bush names? That makes you a hypocrite.
But I'll explain for your benefit... I called Obama "Osama" because of
something *he* himself wrote. It will be of particular importance to you
when you find out, and I am going to bring this item up to you again
when it comes to light.
Now if you can find anything where I insulted his religion (he is
Catholic) or his race you let me know. I did, however, allude to some
big-time shady deals he may be involved in with several known criminals.
Oh, and what about his close friendship with a known and admitted
terrorist who tried to blow up and kill U.S. soldiers here on U.S. soil?
Should I keep silent about that too?

I'm not sure where you're getting religious beliefs, mine or anyone
elses, from

Once again you're being disengenuous. I have been explaining this
concept for probably a year here in this forum. You are practicing a
religion when your political views are no longer founded in reality, but
instead it becomes *blind faith* - you beleive what you are told to
believe by your political party, and anyone who dares disagree with each
and every point of your politico/religious beliefs is held as a heretic
- just like the Catholics and Muslims and many other religions like
Democrats and Republicans do. See Jon, I hate both criminal parties
equally, so you can now refrain from calling me those nasty names.

-- "j" ganz @@

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