On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:41:06 +0000, Larry wrote:

Red wrote in :

There's no
doubt about GW and human behavior causing it. There are really two
choices..


Not true at all. John Baez, a non-believer

Where does it say he is "a non-believer"?

"Of course, 1 Celsius ain't much compared to the 15°-20° Celsius
cooling throughout the Cenozoic - but it's happening fast, and and
it's not over yet! With all the changes the Earth has experienced over
its history, one might think one more change is no big deal. In the
long run, yes. But the future of humanity depends crucially on what
happens in the "short run": the next millennium or two. If we didn't
mess around with the climate, our Earth's climate might remain stable
for another thousand years or more. As it is, we're bringing on more
sudden changes."


and brilliant scientist shows
you why if you'll look back beyond human existence:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

Actually, on the LONG scale, Earth is in one of its COLD periods and has
been for 1.8 million years. How are you going to blame humans and their
cars for all these MASSIVE variations the hockey stick Algore love is such
a TINY part of? The Earth is COLDER now than it has been most all its
life, unless you're a Christian school student who is convinced Earth is
only 6000 years old, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary....

I can make the temperature rise in my computer room look like a disaster if
I baseline it on the last 5 seconds of its existence with the heater turned
on.....how stupid!

In the last 14,000 years, sea levels have RISEN by 125 METERS and that
trend is nearly LINEAR! How are we gonna blame THAT on coal fired power
plants and those awful Ford automobiles??

Man's effect on global temperature, sea temperature is damned near
immeasurable in the massive changes of the SUN....

What "massive changes of the SUN...."?