"Molesworth" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Molesworth" wrote in message


It has to be a global attempt or nothing at all.

My 2c

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Interesting map... of course, the Sierra Club must be lying...

http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/maps/map2.pdf

Map is *10 years* old!

I'd like to see this map updated tho.

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I would also... I'm sure there are others that are more up to date.


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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:34:20 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:

"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:43:35 -0500, Red wrote:

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pot=kettle=black

*plonk*


Nah... don't plonk him... he's not that bad.

yeah he is...a real blowhard...he's just too strident to be amusing

"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:34:20 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:

"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:43:35 -0500, Red wrote:

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pot=kettle=black

*plonk*


Nah... don't plonk him... he's not that bad.

yeah he is...a real blowhard...he's just too strident to be amusing



Not compared to... oh, never mind. They know who they are! LOL


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"Gordon" wrote in message
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Actually, I did support nukular energy until I realized that's actually
much more polluting as far as carbon goes. Lots of people, including me,
forgot about all the mining, refining, processing required. It's not a
panacea, and it's only clean at the end of the process (not really though
if you think about the long-term storage requirements for the spent fuel
rods).

I would certainly support fusion, but that's still many decades away.


I love the nuclear arguments. The NIMBYs' scream no. The safety crowd
says no. The what do you do with the waste crowd says no.

And all the time there are scores of nuclear warships in or near every
major US port.
Gordon


Fortunately, they don't dump their waste in ports. I like New Zealand's
policy (not sure if it's changed). They don't allow NPowered ships in their
ports.


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"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Molesworth" wrote in message
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Red wrote:

Capt. JG sent a link to a Democrap fundraising front:
Interesting map... of course, the Sierra Club must be lying...

http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/maps/map2.pdf


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I won't even bother to read what that organization has to say about
anything. Their past performance suggests they are totally incapable of
telling the truth. They are a political party fundraising front, and
nothing more. Just to be fair, I don't read anything from political
fundraising fronts from either side.

There stall was next to mine last saturday at the market. They are
trying to save the wetlands of Louisiana by recycling Mardi Gras beads!

Good for them.

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That sounds so cool. I have a bunch of them... where do I send them?

ermm..

Loyola Ave, Labarre Rd and on the westbank (Westwego)! Postage would be
a killer!

:-)

There is a theory that New Orleans is sinking under the weight of all
the bards in boxes in peoples' closets! Mine are all going this week (4
cartons)

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"Molesworth" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Capt. JG" wrote:

"Molesworth" wrote in message
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In article ,
Red wrote:

Capt. JG sent a link to a Democrap fundraising front:
Interesting map... of course, the Sierra Club must be lying...

http://www.sierraclub.org/globalwarming/maps/map2.pdf


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I won't even bother to read what that organization has to say about
anything. Their past performance suggests they are totally incapable
of
telling the truth. They are a political party fundraising front, and
nothing more. Just to be fair, I don't read anything from political
fundraising fronts from either side.

There stall was next to mine last saturday at the market. They are
trying to save the wetlands of Louisiana by recycling Mardi Gras beads!

Good for them.

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Molesworth


That sounds so cool. I have a bunch of them... where do I send them?

ermm..

Loyola Ave, Labarre Rd and on the westbank (Westwego)! Postage would be
a killer!

:-)

There is a theory that New Orleans is sinking under the weight of all
the bards in boxes in peoples' closets! Mine are all going this week (4
cartons)

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But, one wonders... do formaldehyde trailers pollute water? Perhaps FEMA can
use them as offshore barriers.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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And all the time there are scores of nuclear warships in or near every
major US port.
Gordon


Fortunately, they don't dump their waste in ports. I like New Zealand's
policy (not sure if it's changed). They don't allow NPowered ships in
their ports.


NZ banned nuclear ships and weapons from their waters. At one time this
meant every US Navy warship was banned from NZ waters. How could a naval
reactor dump any nuclear waste at all? They are self contained 2 stage
systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zea...ntrol_Act_1987

What is so hilarious is that the SUN IS NUCLEAR POWERED (fusion and fisiion)
and the WASTE PRODUCTS of these reactions are SPEWED AT THE EARTH and HEAT
the EARTH. Exposure to the sun is over 1000 times more deadly than the
exposure to working nuclear power plants.

Over 10,000 Americans a year die from the effects sun exposu

http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1028043646.html

World wide we're looking at about 100,000 deaths annually, that makes about
a million people per decade. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima killed
about 150,000. 30-40 were killed at Chernobyl.

Solar power - the most deadly form of energy!

Kills more than gas, oil, coal and nuclear combined!!

The sun is also heating the earth, the earth is getting hotter to the point
of killing all life!!

It would take one heck of a lot of atomic bombs to wipe out all life. There
have been well over 1,000 atmospheric nuclear bomb tests since 1945 and the
earth's population is still growing unchecked!!

http://www.brookings.edu/FP/PROJECTS/NUCWCOST/TESTS.GIF

Solar power - the most deadly form of energy!

Jakob

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:41:06 +0000, Larry wrote:

Red wrote in :

There's no
doubt about GW and human behavior causing it. There are really two
choices..


Not true at all. John Baez, a non-believer

Where does it say he is "a non-believer"?

"Of course, 1 Celsius ain't much compared to the 15°-20° Celsius
cooling throughout the Cenozoic - but it's happening fast, and and
it's not over yet! With all the changes the Earth has experienced over
its history, one might think one more change is no big deal. In the
long run, yes. But the future of humanity depends crucially on what
happens in the "short run": the next millennium or two. If we didn't
mess around with the climate, our Earth's climate might remain stable
for another thousand years or more. As it is, we're bringing on more
sudden changes."


and brilliant scientist shows
you why if you'll look back beyond human existence:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

Actually, on the LONG scale, Earth is in one of its COLD periods and has
been for 1.8 million years. How are you going to blame humans and their
cars for all these MASSIVE variations the hockey stick Algore love is such
a TINY part of? The Earth is COLDER now than it has been most all its
life, unless you're a Christian school student who is convinced Earth is
only 6000 years old, dispite a mountain of evidence to the contrary....

I can make the temperature rise in my computer room look like a disaster if
I baseline it on the last 5 seconds of its existence with the heater turned
on.....how stupid!

In the last 14,000 years, sea levels have RISEN by 125 METERS and that
trend is nearly LINEAR! How are we gonna blame THAT on coal fired power
plants and those awful Ford automobiles??

Man's effect on global temperature, sea temperature is damned near
immeasurable in the massive changes of the SUN....

What "massive changes of the SUN...."?

"Jakob Krutzfeld" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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And all the time there are scores of nuclear warships in or near every
major US port.
Gordon


Fortunately, they don't dump their waste in ports. I like New Zealand's
policy (not sure if it's changed). They don't allow NPowered ships in
their ports.


NZ banned nuclear ships and weapons from their waters. At one time this
meant every US Navy warship was banned from NZ waters. How could a naval
reactor dump any nuclear waste at all? They are self contained 2 stage
systems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zea...ntrol_Act_1987

What is so hilarious is that the SUN IS NUCLEAR POWERED (fusion and
fisiion) and the WASTE PRODUCTS of these reactions are SPEWED AT THE EARTH
and HEAT the EARTH. Exposure to the sun is over 1000 times more deadly
than the exposure to working nuclear power plants.

Over 10,000 Americans a year die from the effects sun exposu

http://healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1028043646.html

World wide we're looking at about 100,000 deaths annually, that makes
about a million people per decade. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima
killed about 150,000. 30-40 were killed at Chernobyl.

Solar power - the most deadly form of energy!

Kills more than gas, oil, coal and nuclear combined!!

The sun is also heating the earth, the earth is getting hotter to the
point of killing all life!!

It would take one heck of a lot of atomic bombs to wipe out all life.
There have been well over 1,000 atmospheric nuclear bomb tests since 1945
and the earth's population is still growing unchecked!!

http://www.brookings.edu/FP/PROJECTS/NUCWCOST/TESTS.GIF

Solar power - the most deadly form of energy!

Jakob

Jon Boy is a liberal. Talking to him is like talking to a bump on a log.

Liberals - the most deadly form of ignorance!

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"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
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What "massive changes of the SUN...."?


Well duhhh... it exploded last week. It was on one of the inside pages of
the NY Times.



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