"Phil Abuster" wrote in news:1m6400.pqt.19.1
@news.alt.net:

A great
thing would be a buy back of 2 cycle engines, similar to the buy back of
guns.


http://www.co.cayuga.ny.us/wqma/owasco/owasco2000.pdf

Here's the "report".

Look at the color picture on the cover of the pdf file. In the lower right
corner, right where the lake takes a 90 degree turn in its SE corner, is
the little community of SE On Owasco at the end of a little dirt road.
That's where I was raised from the time I was a year old....(c;

It was a great place to be from....

This is a picture taken around the ONE day summer Central New York has
every year, almost....(c;

The town in Moravia. Dates way back before it was a country.

On Feb 29, 7:12 am, "Phil Abuster" wrote:
In some areas of the country cars undergo rigorous emissions testing - good
for the environment, good for people and delaying the inevitable onslaught
of global warming. Why aren't boats tested annually? They burn much more
fuel than a car.

Because there are vastly more cars than there are boats. Boats make a
tiny percentage of harmful emissions. Even if you totally eliminate
boat emissions you will not have made any significant impact on the
environment. Any competent computer programmer or anyone who passed
algebra can tell you why it is silly to spend resources on
optimizations that only effect a small portion a problem. Also, of
course, your assertion that boats "burn much more fuel than a car" is
silly. Some boats do compared to some cars, some don't, but as a
class boats burn an insignificant amount compared to cars do as a
group. Finally, are you sure the environmental cost of testing is
less than the cost of doing nothing?

-- Tom.

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:12:47 -0700, "Phil Abuster"
wrote:

Is it unreasonable to require and annual emission test and follow up
remediation for every boat?

Yes, terrible idea. You must sail a small boat with no engine.

Phil Abuster whined:
...for the environment, good for people and delaying the inevitable
onslaught of global warming.


Got news for ya Phil, the earth's average temp went DOWN over the last
year - by the same amount it went up over the last 100 or so years. Many
countries are seeing the coldest winter and more snow than they've seen
in 50 or more years. The Arctic ice is an average 18" thicker this year
than this time last year. And despite what Sierra Club and other Eco
Terrorists want you to believe the polar bear population has not
declined at all - this according to the Canadian scientists who were
*actually up there* studying them (Vs.*studying* them from a living room
in Santa Barbara or Bev Hills). "Global Warming" is Reverend Al Gore's
money market account.
This in no way means I am against cleaning up pollution - on the
contrary. I just do not worship at the feet of the global warming high
priest nor do I accept that all the earth's (or Mars') pollution comes
from America or use any of that for an excuse to do what's right anyway.

Red

"Red" wrote in message
...
Phil Abuster whined:
...for the environment, good for people and delaying the inevitable
onslaught of global warming.


Got news for ya Phil, the earth's average temp went DOWN over the last
year - by the same amount it went up over the last 100 or so years. Many
countries are seeing the coldest winter and more snow than they've seen in
50 or more years. The Arctic ice is an average 18" thicker this year than
this time last year. And despite what Sierra Club and other Eco Terrorists
want you to believe the polar bear population has not declined at all -
this according to the Canadian scientists who were *actually up there*
studying them (Vs.*studying* them from a living room in Santa Barbara or
Bev Hills). "Global Warming" is Reverend Al Gore's money market account.
This in no way means I am against cleaning up pollution - on the contrary.
I just do not worship at the feet of the global warming high priest nor do
I accept that all the earth's (or Mars') pollution comes from America or
use any of that for an excuse to do what's right anyway.

Red


NOAA must be wrong....

http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
NOAA must be wrong....

The head of Nasa came under fire for stating he didn't believe the GW
hoax. NOAA has a political appointee as its head.

Red

"Red" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
NOAA must be wrong....

The head of Nasa came under fire for stating he didn't believe the GW
hoax. NOAA has a political appointee as its head.

Red


Yeah. A Republican. I guess you should tell them to shut down their website.

FYI, Al Gore isn't running for office this year.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

In article ,
Red wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:
NOAA must be wrong....

The head of Nasa came under fire for stating he didn't believe the GW
hoax. NOAA has a political appointee as its head.

I think we're better off not knowing one way or the other. No-one in
ages past cared a hoot about it. Practically the world can't/won't do
anything about it anyway, so que sera sera.

I refuse to even worry about it.

--
Molesworth - who will be dead in 20 years anyway.

"Molesworth" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Red wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:
NOAA must be wrong....

The head of Nasa came under fire for stating he didn't believe the GW
hoax. NOAA has a political appointee as its head.

I think we're better off not knowing one way or the other. No-one in
ages past cared a hoot about it. Practically the world can't/won't do
anything about it anyway, so que sera sera.

I refuse to even worry about it.

--
Molesworth - who will be dead in 20 years anyway.


Do you have kids, grandkids, friends who have them? Not saying you should
worry, but a bit of action is appropriate.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
NOAA must be wrong....

http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

The web page opens with;
"This page is based on a brief synopsis of the 2001 report by the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and the National Research
Council's 2001 report Climate Change Science:"

This is very old information. New and better information comes out all
the time as science improves and as scientists study other previously
unstudied areas. The most recent info coming out suggests what I have
written.

Red