What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

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Justin C, by the sea.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:


What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady
Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

My Espar is about the size of a loaf of bread, the hoses are quite large
of necessity.

Damned expensive though.

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady


Thinking about this answer a little more; the same attributes that make
a boat a good high latitude cruiser are pretty much the same set that
would work for a "single handed - long range cruiser."

In both cases the crew is going to be more concerned with basic
necessities and comfort than for speed. So the boat design is focused
on safety and comfort and those two things are very interlinked for if
the crew gets tired and depleted then they will be prone to make
mistakes. The boat needs to have high safety margins for when the
inevitable mistakes happen.

One of the basic facts of high latitude sailing is that there are few
others around to help you out. Even if you have a crew with you the
boat needs to be self sufficient, single or high or both.

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

and very cheap if purchased used thru ABE books.
G

Justin C wrote:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.


Designed to be able to deal effectively with very cold weather &
ice... including the possibility of being frozen in.

Doesn't appeal to me, personally!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

On Jan 28, 4:28*am, Justin C wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Justin C, by the sea.


Hey Justin:
They need to be designed by a navel architect for specific areas of
operation not a marketing vp who wants a cheep fleet for their bare
boat charter fleet in margarita Ville.

Think "slow... heavy... stout" = expensive. Small cockpits but people
dont like them cause they cant intertain a cocktail party. Think small
port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

But now some one will say, "but if you have a fast boat you can out
run a storm." to that I say, bull****.

I have one. I live at N45. Just need to drive it hard. ..............
absolutly wonderfull !

Bob

On Jan 28, 7:44*am, Bob wrote:

port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

http://sports.webshots.com/photo/205...63212926eSPzLW

3/8 glass is for put'z like you Bob. RedCloud has 3/4" and 1" thick
armoured glass in bronze ports. Think Monel not bronze thru hulls in
ice.

BTW look at the big picture windows on this boat:
http://www.damocles-eu.org/artman/up...ara-arctic.jpg

Tara's been iced in for many mo's now.

Joe






But now some one will say, "but if you have a fast boat you can out
run a storm." *to that I say, bull****.

I have one. I live at N45. Just need to drive it hard. ..............
absolutly wonderfull !

Bob