High latitudes cruiser
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady


Thinking about this answer a little more; the same attributes that make
a boat a good high latitude cruiser are pretty much the same set that
would work for a "single handed - long range cruiser."

In both cases the crew is going to be more concerned with basic
necessities and comfort than for speed. So the boat design is focused
on safety and comfort and those two things are very interlinked for if
the crew gets tired and depleted then they will be prone to make
mistakes. The boat needs to have high safety margins for when the
inevitable mistakes happen.

One of the basic facts of high latitude sailing is that there are few
others around to help you out. Even if you have a crew with you the
boat needs to be self sufficient, single or high or both.

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

High latitudes cruiser
 

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

and very cheap if purchased used thru ABE books.
G

High latitudes cruiser
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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On Jan 28, 9:29 am, RichH wrote:
A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). :-O

Polar Bears??? seriously?


The only live polar bears I've seen were in the Toronto zoos.

There's an excerpt in Good Old Boat Jan/Feb 2008 from the Martins' book
"Into The LIght" about a bear chasing their boat and appearing quite capable
of getting aboard. I think I read somewhere (as always!) that Polar Bears
actually see humans as prey and that they are the only mammal that does. I
think the definition had somethig to do with other mamals seeing us only as
second-rate when the opportunity presents.
Hoges in WA

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote in
e.com:


What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on multi-month
charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an amazing boat as I've
never seen anything like it before. They were just written up in Cruising
World a few months ago.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

High latitudes cruiser
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady
Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

My Espar is about the size of a loaf of bread, the hoses are quite large
of necessity.

Damned expensive though.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:55:12 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote:

I think I read somewhere (as always!) that Polar Bears
actually see humans as prey and that they are the only mammal that does. I

All the big cats can take up maneating. Rare but it happens. Elsa the
lioness in the book and film took it up later in life, so they killed
her. Among non-mammels, the nile crocadile will go for an available
human every time. If he is big enough he will go for you. Saw some
film on public TV where a croc burst from the water and chased and
caught an antelope, impala I think, that was at least fifty feet from
the water. They eat tens of thousands of people a year in Africa.

Casady

High latitudes cruiser
 

In article , Geoff Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
e.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on multi-month
charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an amazing boat as I've
never seen anything like it before. They were just written up in Cruising
World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote in
:

In article , Geoff
Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
e.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen
a few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue
water" cruiser.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on
multi-month charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an
amazing boat as I've never seen anything like it before. They were
just written up in Cruising World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the
build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure
looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

Justin.

After the fact I saw that someone else had published their URL. However, I
have the advantage of having spent a week or so anchored next to them and
spent time aboard Seal. They had it on a shake-down cruise to Belize. The
boat definately wasn't set up for NW Caribbean heat, but they did make some
changes based upon things they learned.

To say that it was unlike any boat that I've ever been on is an
understatement. Theyworry about things that I've never even thought about!

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 30, 6:19*pm, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote :





In article , Geoff
Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
lue.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen
a few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue
water" cruiser.

Take a look athttp://www.expeditionsail.com/to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. *They take people on
multi-month charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. *This was an
amazing boat as I've never seen anything like it before. *They were
just written up in Cruising World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the
build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure
looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

* * *Justin.

After the fact I saw that someone else had published their URL. *However, I
have the advantage of having spent a week or so anchored next to them and
spent time aboard Seal. *They had it on a shake-down cruise to Belize. *The
boat definately wasn't set up for NW Caribbean heat, but they did make some
changes based upon things they learned. *

To say that it was unlike any boat that I've ever been on is an
understatement. *Theyworry about things that I've never even thought about! *

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org- Hide quoted text -

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That's a good looking boat Geoff, but here is the champion of the
north.

http://www.taraexpeditions.org/fr/ga...fe927efa2d69eb

Joe